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[Grits]

There's a big difference between Cuba and Haiti; the bulk of the Cuban population have a reasonably good education. Sorry but Cuba's economic woes are almost entirely the result of the embargo. You only have to go there to see the hoops non-American companies who have interests in the US have to go through in order to operate in Cuba. And as you alluded to before; the embargo keeps the Castros in power. Cuba wasn't even communist in the strictest sense until America forced them into the Soviet sphere, and without the embargo Cuba would have been far more likely to go down the Vietnam-style liberalisation route than remain communist. Of course until your politicians can tell the Miami Cubans to give up any hopes of getting their Cuban assets back this is going to continue to be a problem, and open sore in America's relationship with latin America, not just not Cuba.

OK, I guess I only disagree with you in the sense that I am sure without the embargo they would still have substantially the same level of poverty because that system of government causes it. Everything else we are in agreement.

 

[Airhead]

...as to Haiti, one of the reasons they are doing do poorly, as an example, is that they are forced to import US surplus rice. therefore there are no rice farms out in sticks (because they can't compete) where they used to be aplenty. this is also the reason that so many people died in the recent earthquake: they all moved to the city for work. I'm not saying the US is to blame for earthquakes or Haiti going under, I'm just placing things in perspective.

Uh...no. Haiti made a deal with the devil for their independence and now God is punishing them.

 

[TdC]

heh who knows? child slavery, coups, internal destabilisation, near-total deforestation, complete lack of tourist income due to the internal strife, one of the most corrupt countries in the world, a deal with Beelzebub and an earthquake. He works in mysterious ways.

 

[Son of Sluggish]

Exactly. You know how many people in poor conditions, let's say haiti for example, would be better off if every american/uk/other country person gave ONE beer a month to them?

Hell, we'd have that place looking like a paradise resort in two months.

My pet complaint really, people talk the talk, but rarely...well...

Seriously, if all the people on this forum and flame warriors forum would give one buck and we put that money to one family in africa(or poor family in any other country), it'd change their lives.

Knock yourself out. You and Bono should get together and sponsor as many poor people as you like. But you don't have a right to my personal property.

 

[throdgrain]

I dont give a toss about people in Africa, or Haiti either.

If you spent loads of money to get them a bit of an education, they'd just save up enough money from thier new job, then jump on a plane and turn up here. Let them sort out thier own problems, and we can sort out ours.

 

[Tom]

I wouldn't accept a BJ offer from her, she looks like a vein scraper.

Maybe this guy would help:

 

[old.Tohtori]

It was simply a point to make on how little it would take.

But it also shows, people don't really give a f*ck, yet complain when they have things "hard".

My suggestion doesn't even involve anything remotely what you would miss, but the moment you are asked for something of yours, it's a big problem.

And that, in a nutshell, is the problem with humans.

I don't care about haiti, africa, or other suchy things around the world. I hardly blinked when the 911 happened. I know this, but then again i'm not complaining about it either.

 

[TdC]

But you don't have a right to my personal property.

technically, the personal property you're talking about is an IOU issued to the US government and owned by the Federal Reserve. nobody actually owns the money they have.

 

[rynnor]

No one can 'help' Africa - it has to sort itself out - what we could do is stop screwing it over by allowing it to trade freely on an even footing and stop interfere'ing with mis-guided 'aid' that perpetuates dependency and corruption.

None of this costs money btw.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

So reducing, or eliminating huge interest rates on hilarious loans from the West wouldn't 'help' Africa?

 

[Tom]

The Common Agricultural Policy doesn't help, either.

 

[Son of Sluggish]

They have incredibly fertile earth and yet they are starving to death. How would forgiving debt between governments teach the people to feed themselves?

 

[Tom]

Contrary to popular belief, most Africans are not starving to death.

 

[yaruar]

Contrary to popular belief, most Africans are not starving to death.

Nah, they're far too busy dying of AIDS to even consider a decent famine these days

 

[throdgrain]

I dont care about that either

 

[Raven]

They are far to busy thinking up new and innovative gorilla warfare costumes to be worrying about aids or famine.

Nothing looks better next to an AK than a pair of fairy wings or a good pair of crocs.

 

[Ch3tan]

That is the point, this country was founded on self-reliance, its our choice (within the bounds of law) to do whatever we want personally, be it good or bad for us. Our birthright is not to be able to act poorly, it is to be able to act as we want without someone deciding for us what is poor behavior, again within the law.

And then sue someone else and blame someone else when doing whatever you want goes bad?

Seriously, nanny state started in the US. The rest of the western world has slowly followed suite from your example. Political correctness, state control, it all stems from the US. The difference is we actually moan about the state of our country,, you all bleat on like you live in a perfect world.

 

[Ch3tan]

Oh and your country was founding on the ability to get natives drunk and sell them guns they couldn't use, while raping their young girls.

 

[FWRollins]

Oh and your country was founding on the ability to get natives drunk and sell them guns they couldn't use, while raping their young girls.

How do you breathe like that?

 

[nath]

Because the poor in our country can still afford to over eat, sit on our fat asses watching our HD big screen TV, do no exercise, and die of a massive coronary. Its our birthright as Americans do to shit that is really, really, bad for us if we feel like it.

I know it's pathetically picky, but if this is the case why is recreational cannabis use illegal?

 

[Son of Sluggish]

I know it's pathetically picky, but if this is the case why is recreational cannabis use illegal?

It goes back to 1920 when women were finally allowed to vote. They flexed their muscles and forced prohibition, which gloriously failed. After prohibition, there were all kinds of prohibition enforcement officers with nothing to do. Cannabis became the next great evil.

OR....

I have no fucking idea and you asked an excellent question.

 

[Chilly]

You may have bad teeth and bland food, but my Dad always had the utmost respect for your pilots.

Fuck you buddy. Last time I was in the US, I had to find the tiny, hidden thai restaurant under a big road bridge to get some taste. Cheesecake factory? Don't make me fucking laugh.

Oh and you do know that straightened teeth via braces arnt genetically inheritable, yes?

 

[Son of Sluggish]

Fuck you buddy. Last time I was in the US, I had to find the tiny, hidden thai restaurant under a big road bridge to get some taste. Cheesecake factory? Don't make me fucking laugh.

Oh and you do know that straightened teeth via braces arnt genetically inheritable, yes?

I suppose if stuffed goat's stomach is your taste you would have a hard time in the US.

 

[Chilly]

Haggis isnt all that bad.

Let me tell you about bland food:

IRAQ has bland food. They have rice and meat. Sometimes it's meat and rice, or a bit of rice and some meat with different colour rice to go with the meat. If you are seriously lucky you might get some sauce on your meat, but never on your rice. Sauce on rice is bad.

Britain is a powerhouse of cuisine. Just down the road from my office in London is a french/indian restaurant with a goddam michelin star....what the hell? If that's not turbo awesome variety then fuck knows what is.

 

[Son of Sluggish]

When was the last time you had a good steak?

 

[Chilly]

When was the last time you had a good steak?

Are you some how implying there is no good steak in the UK? Granted, south american cows are probably some of the finest going, but it's just as far to you from argentina to me.

 

[Airhead]

I know it's pathetically picky, but if this is the case why is recreational cannabis use illegal?

Actually it's not nath. I live in the heart of the Emerald Triangle, and with a Dr.'s recommendation I can grow up to 25 plants and posses up to two pounds of processed bud for personal consumption. Of course that's California law, but I can safely grow 25 plants and in fact the Sheriff will sell me zip ties certifying my garden complies with the law.

 

[Chilly]

Actually it's not nath. I live in the heart of the Emerald Triangle, and with a Dr.'s recommendation I can grow up to 25 plants and posses up to two pounds of processed bud for personal consumption. Of course that's California law, but I can safely grow 25 plants and in fact the Sheriff will sell me zip ties certifying my garden complies with the law.

If only all doctors would give us drugs for problems we don't have

 

[nath]

and with a Dr.'s recommendation

A doctor would recommend cannabis for recreational use?

 

[Son of Sluggish]

A doctor would recommend cannabis for recreational use?

No. You've got to have a physical ailment.