First succesful relic raid on excal since NF came

[Blitzing]

1 Fellowship Of Midgard Midgard 112,821,429 2,423,029 407 / 475 144
2 First Cohort Albion 181,238,841 2,397,263 39 / 46 32


2,4mil / 144 = 16k
24mil /32 = 76k

means the average FoM gives more rps away then they earn

or maybe it just means that FC is a way more rvr active guild than FoM, its not like all 407 active players go rvr 5 hours everyday, when i was more active in rvr, it wasnt like i saw huge fom zergs all over. and im sure fc prolly run some organised fg with optimal classes like the other hard core rvr guilds, we dont actually do that. i hardly see 40 fom in rvr at the same time. so just because we are alot of active players, doesnt mean we zerg emain every day farming like crazy. cause to show up as active doesnt mean running around doing rvr.

 

[Tay]

fuck you mids
fuck you albs
you all suck
75% of server population vs 25%. funfun!

lol aint life a bitch when you dont own.......I know its short lived but hibs made the best of it when they owned....

 

[Icebreaker]

lol aint life a bitch when you dont own.......I know its short lived but hibs made the best of it when they owned....

And you think you own if run over 50 Hibs with 200 Albs or Mids? xD

And just to make one thing clear. If hibs would have the same Numbers as Albs and Mids they would be in the last corner of their Realms now.

 

[Tay]

we cant do much more atm hib is doomed and we all know that m8 i know alot will say there they r again but its just fact , even before NF we couldnt handle descent and huge zergs and im not afraid 2 admit it so its better we all let it rest and play on even if it is pve sometimes or we can move 2 another game or somethin


facts are simple : albion 40.56%
hibernia 25.96%
midgard 33.49%

like stajj said both realms mid and alb always worked 2gether and we cant handle 2 realms at same time no fucking way its 75% against 25% of hibs imo its not the first time mid and alb worked together and than tell like they did good job on relic raid while hibs even tried defending a keep


i know alot will flame and whine and do all sorts of things on my reply frankly im at a point i couldnt care less only posted the facts very simple

I'm sorry but youre totally full of shit.....

The population of Albion has not changed greatly and nor that of Midgard, so why all of a sudden are Hib shit???

Perhaps this is because you were grossly overpowered before? maybe Albs and Mids are givin you a bit of the medicine you gave others pre NF...

So there you have it, I've posted facts too.....

Its a differant game now, one I'm not overly impressed with myself hence I wasnt even on last night, but a differant game nonetheless...

Dont worry Hib will be hero's again one day....

 

[Calo]

so basicly this is all about:

hibs who are crying like little kids
albs are just stupid and complain about a fom zerg? (oh yea its only a REALM VERSUS REALM game but oke, im an alb and im stupid and i dont understand the concept of this game.. having fun)

oh and what a horror, hibs saying we are noobs! OH NOOOOOO that must be an insult... srry ill spend more time ingame so we can be as good as u! its like our dream! rah one day, i wanna be like stajjjjoon, owning in some strange online game who nobody gives a fuck about...

such a sad thread.. mids do something not prepared for fun and albs & hibs are mad because... we have fun and u don't ?

 

[Icebreaker]

I'm sorry but youre totally full of shit.....

The population of Albion has not changed greatly and nor that of Midgard, so why all of a sudden are Hib shit???

Perhaps this is because you were grossly overpowered before? maybe Albs and Mids are givin you a bit of the medicine you gave others pre NF...

So there you have it, I've posted facts too.....

Its a differant game now, one I'm not overly impressed with myself hence I wasnt even on last night, but a differant game nonetheless...

Dont worry Hib will be hero's again one day....

no? Like you said it's a different Game now. Hib Gank Groups still > Alb Gank Groups like usual. The only difference atm are the Zerg Battles which Hibernia can't compete with. Pre NF and now it is even harder because every PvE Warder is in Hibernia Frontier. Hib isn't shit. Just heavy outnumbered.

 

[noaim]

And you think you own if run over 50 Hibs with 200 Albs or Mids? xD

And just to make one thing clear. If hibs would have the same Numbers as Albs and Mids they would be in the last corner of their Realms now.

Ofc we would. Mids have been about 80-150 all the time. Assuming we follow the numbers, albs should have been somewhere around 100-175 tops, and hibs around 60-125 or so. But if you only had another 20-50 hibs, I am sure both mids and albs would be in the last corners of our realms now...really, I am.

 

[Draylor]

And just to make one thing clear. If hibs would have the same Numbers as Albs and Mids they would be in the last corner of their Realms now.

Noone (with a clue) is going to doubt that. Hibs have been outnumbered since the beginning, but have been well enough organised to avoid being rolled over by the zerg.

Hopefully this wont result in hardly seeing any hib groups around: playing a 2 realm game just isnt the same

 

[Icebreaker]

Ofc we would. Mids have been about 80-150 all the time. Assuming we follow the numbers, albs should have been somewhere around 100-175 tops, and hibs around 60-125 or so. But if you only had another 20-50 hibs, I am sure both mids and albs would be in the last corners of our realms now...really, I am.

125 Hibs. Wow that would be funky. I tried to build a Zerg to take Behnn back. I got about 90 Hibs together in 1,5 hours. You obviously don't have a clue about the Hib Population atm.Arround 300-350 Hibs only. A few Solo Groups like every Realm has. The usual Pvers and the Hibs who defend other Keeps. Whats leftover? Not much.

And actually 50 Hibs more for RvR would be enough to throw you back to your Homelands.

 

[Thorwyn]

both realms mid and alb always worked 2gether

cast shrooms... but don´t smoke them!

 

[noaim]

125 Hibs. Wow that would be funky. I tried to build a Zerg to take Behnn back. I got about 90 Hibs together in 1,5 hours. You obviously don't have a clue about the Hib Population atm.Arround 300-350 Hibs only. A few Solo Groups like every Realm has. The usual Pvers and the Hibs who defend other Keeps. Whats leftover? Not much.

And actually 50 Hibs more for RvR would be enough to throw you back to your Homelands.

And drive both mids and albs back to the last corners of their realms?

Mids and albs cant really help hibs dont have someone to lead em, and reading your post makes just shows how lucky mids are that we have Ardamel, otherwise it would probably be us with 3 keeps and 1 relic left.

 

[Flimgoblin]

such a sad thread.. mids do something not prepared for fun and albs & hibs are mad because... we have fun and u don't ?

who said albs were mad?

 

[Gremon]

First of, nice work by mids, who at this point seem well organised and are being led by Ardamel.

I got a couple of questions though about relic capture and movement.

Once you are carrying a relic, you wont be able to get any speed and therefore the relic will only be moving at normal speed, which provides interception opportunity's for people wanting to (re)capture it.

Can the relic carrier use the keep porting system?
Can the relic carrier use a boat and will that boat use walking speed or just run as it normally would?
Or if none of the above is valid, does he have to walk / swim all the way to the relic keep, without any speed enhancement at all?

Another thing, about the relic gates.
One relic gate will open (I'm presuming the one closest to the border keep.) when 3 designated keeps are in enemy hands. When a 4th keep is in enemy hands, the 2nd relic gate (I'm presuming the one furthest from the border keep.) will open, giving the enemy 2 placed to enter / escape with the relic.
Is this correct?

Thx for any non muppet answers in advance.

 

[Tay]

And you think you own if run over 50 Hibs with 200 Albs or Mids? xD

And just to make one thing clear. If hibs would have the same Numbers as Albs and Mids they would be in the last corner of their Realms now.

Actually yes you get owned boned and seriously fucked over...

If Hibs didnt have this....and didnt have that.... pre NF would have looked completely differant too..tis a stupid argument...

I make no secret of the fact that you are getting owned through greater numbers mostly....the same numbers that existed pre NF interestingly.....

 

[vintervargen]

http://www.duskwave.com/daoc/guildrank.php?server=Excalibur&realm=&order=lastweek


Enough Said

2,619,954 / 144 = 18194

Well Done.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Can the relic carrier use the keep porting system?
Can the relic carrier use a boat and will that boat use walking speed or just run as it normally would?
Or if none of the above is valid, does he have to walk / swim all the way to the relic keep, without any speed enhancement at all?

Another thing, about the relic gates.
One relic gate will open (I'm presuming the one closest to the border keep.) when 3 designated keeps are in enemy hands. When a 4th keep is in enemy hands, the 2nd relic gate (I'm presuming the one furthest from the border keep.) will open, giving the enemy 2 placed to enter / escape with the relic.
Is this correct?

Thx for any non muppet answers in advance.

can't use porting
can use boats but only the purchased ones - they're a bit slower than the fast attack boats

can you carry a boat to enemy territory and place it there? or do you have to sail it there?

yeah 3 keeps for the gate on the other side of the river, 4th keep opens the one on the same side of the river as the relic.

The alb offensive on Scathaig would have opened the second strength relic gate had it succeeded....

 

[Icebreaker]

And drive both mids and albs back to the last corners of their realms?

Mids and albs cant really help hibs dont have someone to lead em, and reading your post makes just shows how lucky mids are that we have Ardamel, otherwise it would probably be us with 3 keeps and 1 relic left.

Yes like you do with Hibs atm. Both Albs and Mids. With more Hibs we could draw you back. Cut the Supply lines and take Keeps in your Realms. This would lead to either Albion or Midgard attacking the Realm we go for aswell.

Same thing Midgard and Albion do in Hibernia atm. Where are the Hibs atm? Close to the last Corner of their Realm.

I didn't mean we would fight both Realms at the same time. I hope this made it more clear.

 

[Stallion]

Actually yes you get owned boned and seriously fucked over...

If Hibs didnt have this....and didnt have that.... pre NF would have looked completely differant too..tis a stupid argument...

I make no secret of the fact that you are getting owned through greater numbers mostly....the same numbers that existed pre NF interestingly.....

no your so wrong.
same numbers, with shorter respawntimer, frontiers built up to concentrate forces, more choke points. This is completly different from OF.

 

[noaim]

Yes like you do with Hibs atm. Both Albs and Mids. With more Hibs we could draw you back. Cut the Supply lines and take Keeps in your Realms. This would lead to either Albion or Midgard attacking the Realm we go for aswell.

Same thing Midgard and Albion do in Hibernia atm. Where are the Hibs atm? Close to the last Corner of their Realm.

I didn't mean we would fight both Realms at the same time. I hope this made it more clear.

Yes, then I apologize for the misunderstanding, and agree with you.

 

[Icebreaker]

Actually yes you get owned boned and seriously fucked over...

If Hibs didnt have this....and didnt have that.... pre NF would have looked completely differant too..tis a stupid argument...

I make no secret of the fact that you are getting owned through greater numbers mostly....the same numbers that existed pre NF interestingly.....

Not RvR Active Pre NF. There was usual 100-150 Albs and 50-70 Mids in our Frontiers. Atm its like 150-250 Albs. I have no clue about the Mids they don't show up that heavy but i guess they are about 100-170. So your Argument of the Numbers is kinda nonsense.

 

[Sturrm]

Perhaps it may be true that hibs organize better blah blah blah. (Don’t think its true, when I rolled my char there was no button that says +50 to Organizing)

Any organized fg (High RR group) will usually beat 2-3 fgs (Warders) running together but…… what happens when the 2-3 fgs are Alerion Knights?

I really don’t see a very bright future Current RvR looks like Thridranki.

Seems the Warders are making some Rps and soon the Lowbie Zerg will be running with many new buttons on their hotbar.

Im not good in Math but, Volcanic Pillar is great for farming rps and even if it only does hmmm 400 damage, what happens with 10 Noobs hit the button at the same time hoping they hit their button first before the peeps die and they lose their chance at some rps. (Just an example)

I think the problem originated at the beginning when the game was released and no limit to realm population was imposed. Obviously a mistake by Mythic. NF has been released in order to cater to the casual non-fotm player that wants to experience some RvR and never made it further than amg.

NF is making the majority very happy (Roleplayers), while the minority (Hardcore players) are unhappy. I imagine that eventually either the hardcore players quit the game or they find another way to fight in 1fg, I guess it’s a matter of time.

As for WoW, as far as I have been informed unfortunately no limit to Realm population has been imposed either, therefore imho the same will happen considering that a Class named Paladin exists and generally playing a Paladin gifs roleplayers a hard-on.

I guess what im trying to say is play what is fun for u and when its not fun find something else to do (I recommend Lifting weights and Sex).

I wonder how many posts in FH are whines that contain the following words:

Zerg, Fotm, Noob, Warder, Pwned, Overpowered, Gankgroup, Savage, Bonedancer, Sorc, etc etc. (im kinda tired of it all, will check WoW forums on release, I wonder what new whine frequently used words will be invented).

Just my thoughts with much love for all.

(Sorry for long post)

 

[Tay]

no? Like you said it's a different Game now. Hib Gank Groups still > Alb Gank Groups like usual. The only difference atm are the Zerg Battles which Hibernia can't compete with. Pre NF and now it is even harder because every PvE Warder is in Hibernia Frontier. Hib isn't shit. Just heavy outnumbered.

But who is to say rvr is about gank grp vs gank grp?? therefore its a moot point.

I watched Hibs comfortably defend Bolg the other day, the only real time it got close was when some greedy hibs decided to come out and play.

You get caught out in the open you die....you now know how much of Alb felt pre NF.....its swings and roundabouts, sometimes you win sometimes you lose....it happens to be Alb's population time atm...it'll change soon enough...

Sadly I dont think I'll be around for it, I'm still getting packetloss and frankly the hour after hour killage aint actually fun for me, I do get a great deal of enjoyment out of flattening those that did it to me prior to NF tho

But alas I suspect that will get old too, soon...

 

[Clipse]

so much bickering and long postage....

Albs zerged emain, Midds zerged emain. The mighty warrior Ardamel siezed teh opportunity to zurg the relics. End of discussion.

No offence to Tay, but you have the gift of turning every thread into a long discussion. When people really just want to log on, buff up and gank

 

[gravedigger]

read my post you muppet

I said "hibs don't have the numbers for it" however if you just try and defend nged (you don't need as many defenders as attackers - it's easier to defend than attack plus the albs/mids tend to kill each other near nged anyway) and ignore the other keeps you might have the people spare to go take an alb/mid keep - 4fg could probably do it if they got lucky.


However your best hope is probably cowering in your keeps till albs take some mid keeps or vice versa really. Then you'd only have one enemy to fight (whilst they're on two fronts)

Course that's not exactly fun for hib so you could try taking some suggestions on board or debating their merits rationally rather than going "OMG FU!" like a spoiled kid.

Edit: actually did you read any of my post? or just pick up the words "take keep" and release the contents of your colon onto the boards.

BITE ME mofo

 

[Tay]

Not RvR Active Pre NF. There was usual 100-150 Albs and 50-70 Mids in our Frontiers. Atm its like 150-250 Albs. I have no clue about the Mids they don't show up that heavy but i guess they are about 100-170. So your Argument of the Numbers is kinda nonsense.

So you are saying the hib numbers have not increased???

Sorry but I find that very hard to believe, there are hibs names that I do not recall ever seeing before...so I doubt very much that the Hib RVR numbers have remained the same with the introduction of NF.

In fact I noticed when logging on the other night that there was no where near the usual 800 ish Albs online, so maybe NF is taking its toll on more than the hibs alone...

 

[Tay]

so much bickering and long postage....

Albs zerged emain, Midds zerged emain. The mighty warrior Ardamel siezed teh opportunity to zurg the relics. End of discussion.

No offence to Tay, but you have the gift of turning every thread into a long discussion. When people really just want to log on, buff up and gank

Thats because most people see things as black and white and unfortunatly life aint like that..

If people cant "tear" themselves away from the forums perhaps they should get out more, I'm stuck at work and have feck all else to do..You might notice I almost never post in the evenings...

 

[Icebreaker]

So you are saying the hib numbers have not increased???

Sorry but I find that very hard to believe, there are hibs names that I do not recall ever seeing before...so I doubt very much that the Hib RVR numbers have remained the same with the introduction of NF.

In fact I noticed when logging on the other night that there was no where near the usual 800 ish Albs online, so maybe NF is taking its toll on more than the hibs alone...

The Numbers have dropped in every Realm. Hib had about 500 in his best Times. Now we are about 300-350 Primetime.

 

[Herjulf]

It is very possible that hib numbers have falled.

HOWEVER the current RvR active hibs have raised ALOT.
That may be simply due to the fresh release of NF, and may fall as time pass.

But i have never ever seen as many active hibs in RvR in my entire daoc presence as i do right now.

one of the problems with hibs is that is a very high PvE core in the realm.
And the RvR people not to thrilled with keep standoffs.

Thus roaming more or quit.

 

[Tay]

The Numbers have dropped in every Realm. Hib had about 500 in his best Times. Now we are about 300-350 Primetime.

Time will tell I guess..

Old hands will go and newbies will be joining for not so elusive epic battles..

I think I enjoyed the epic battle more when they were impromtu events, now it seems to be 1. locate the swords 2. teleport hey presto "canned" fun.

 

[Marc]

BITE ME mofo

Loosely translated as "Flim, im sorry, my peanut sized brain was unable to process your post and therfore, rather than admit that you were correct, its far easier for me to dis you"