Fins List Must B Disbanded

[Chameleon]

Then who should? im not seeing how a new group would ever go up to a group camping fins and tell them to leave claiming its their turn.

No one should have the right, that's the point. We dont all have 6 hours per session to wait for spots in groups run with lists. This shouldnt mean you are categorically excluded from a specific location claimed by the 'blury-eyed' crew.

Same here, some lvls cost me 2 weeks

heheheheh, it's taken me 4 weeks to get 2 bubbles

 

[old.Demerzel]

Ehm i got an idea: who ever got there first
If u cant get in, make a new group and go to breif, sc or df.

If my group would be interrupted by another group wanting the spot i would appeal to goa before giving the spot up

 

[daphatfriar]

Err

Dunno what your complaining about really m8 tbh.

There are in every Realm many places to xp at hight levels not just one.

If you want to get some interest going in another area apart from these "Fins" (no idea what they are btw hehe) look at what drops in the other /send to players who might need those drops. You'll soon have a group!

Worked for me I'm 50

 

[Spudgie]

omg If you think the fins tree is the only decent levelling area in CF then you've never explored the place fully - AND DESERVE to sit in a queue for hours on end.

Stop whinging about fins lists etc and go look round, theres another 3 fins spots, the grenchers, gorbies, scorpians, grannies + MS for 40ish players, need i go on.

Besides EZ + DF can get your alot more xp if you know what your doing and where ya going.

EXPLORE EXPLORE - Fins are tedious xp and drop crap. Lists are there for the unsociable players who can't be arsed to make their own groups.

 

[Chameleon]

Was at warshades last night btw. They seem good xp. Tomask was with us trying to get last bit of xp to 50, so cant be that bad for a few levels. If your short of ppl for a group, and im online, /send and ill try to come help ya. God knows I need the xp

 

[therealeel]

hmm that fins spot can take 2 grps without much problem - done it before - and one thing bout list is peeps get there early and stay so others have to wait ages. Quite a few spots can take multiple pullers ... some peeps aint got the stomach to upset others so shy away from it. Had my own problems on an alt recently so just stand up to them - some spots often bring out the worst in people - just my 2 cents worth.

 

[Tank Init]

Fins, where would the people of Hib be without them?

 

[Juanita]

First of all: Eneq = Enechanter, lvl 50 chanter, so i doubt he wants to claim the spot for himself.

Second: All those ppl with great ideas of alternative xp-ing... how many lvls did you make at fins? 2? 3?

 

[Ensceptifica]

Make a group of 4/5 and chain pull pookas.

Or make 1-2 fg and run through CF killing everything. Or make 1-2 fg and run through DF. Or through siabra city.

 

[Noche]

I lvled at fin´s 15+ lvls with 3 chars.

Enechanter´s a good guy, don´t see why he want to own the spot, and he´s lvl 50 (sorry but I´m still 50 be4 u and sure I did fins shet load of em), maybe he just had some bad xp with his alt? ^_-

Oh and 2 weeks is wot most took to me, due to the fact that I got some times to play yet I managed to lvl 50 hehe...

 

[eneq]

hmm

I wonder how many read my post.

Must bring some qoutes up.

"Quit your job then, quite simple."

That must come from someone still living home with mum ;p

"This is probably another "Nightshade/ranger please get me into groups or ill quit" thread"

Tyka did u read the post ? i think i said im a lvl 50 so dont need to get into xp groups really, But as im a PBAOE and lvl 50 i help m8´s

"On top of that you are suggesting that you decide how the rest of the realm organize their XPing"

No but why should the fin list decide who can xp at fins and who cant ? I think list dictates for me how i can xp or not ?

"People who dont like fins or the list shouldnt complain, noone are forceing them to participate, go out and make your own group just the way you like it."

This is actually same poster as last quote. So basically u saying i do my group and go camp fins ? And dont take care of if there another group there ? oki......

This one make me say "dduuuh?"

"1st off eneq i can damn swear u wasnt the 1st person/grp to do fins in CF,, I know for a fact that my old grp did them at lvl 36 which wudve been about 5months ago !!"

Damn i must really sux at this game, i waited until lvl 43 to even try to hit 1 with my PBAOE. And i then decided to go back to banshees/EZ for 1 more lvl....
Can u PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ gimme your groups specced at 36. U must really have uber chars !!!!!
I prolly get a strange reply to this becasue i cant add it up...
Well we wasnt the first at this fins, AS i said i have work ;p
BUT we was the first group that made it a permanent camping spot. When we discovered it we went there for many days running and no-one was there. After we invited some really needed chars it was perma camped until this days.

"In game name, lvl. U r sure not the first pb grp there dude, unless u started to lvl the first day otherwise u r not the first one trust me. To my understand u r trying to claim the spot as urs?"

Enechanter Lvl 50 Mana Enchanter.
Nope i dont claim b first there, read above qoute.
hmm how can i claim the spot when im trying to get rid of a list that claims the spot ?

"Next question I have to ask is why is this not sitting in a Hibernia forum?"
DAmn beats me. But as i said was at work and boss running around and do what bosses do,,had to move fast sometimes ;p was meant for hib onlly, ;p BUT seems the list r in other realms also.


"So basically you're a selfish twat who just wants to have things run your way or not at all. I'm not surprised no one else supports your plan, you're so up your own arse it's a wonder you can breath.
As stated many time by many people, you can level in other places..."

This poster really crack me up.
First if u read somne posts above u notice not all is against my post, Some agrees and some even say its evil.. But as im so far up my ass i cant breath i maybe misread them. Or maybe u did ?
And 2 thing this isnt about fins being the only spot for xp. ITS ABOUT THE FINSLIST !!!!!!!oooops cant breath muxt take my head out if ass,,,,

WEll cant quote more to late and to tired,

This post isnt about the xp in hib. Its about the list.
U can all claim fins xp is bad. U can all claim there is better XP.
U can even say there is better xp spots in CF.
I have been all over the place. Been at deathknights, Been in DF killing hulks (the slowest damn respawn in game) all i can say to u all. U prefer others i prefer fins. Yes boring as hell but with 1 or 2 lvl 50 PBAOE u can 1 bard as healer 3 tanks 2PBAOE and have 2 low lvl leechers and still manage to get good xp. We used to have peeps going afk for hours when we was at fins in CF.
With good guys u can do fins with 6 peeps there and 2 afk.
Go deathknights or umbers or whatever and try to go afk... u b dead. So when 1 LD we keept pulling, sometimes when 2 LD we keept pulling.
XP I BORING whatever mob u do. B able to go for a break for 2 hours and come back and c that xpbar moved alot really helped.

AND the fins spot in CF can hold 2 groups, Damn the respawn is so fast.
Been reading some posts i must say u is at wrong fins spot.



The thing is that Fins list is made b the not working pop of hib and is helping the non working pop of hib, And i understand the quote "Quit your job then, quite simple." basically sums it up....

 

[cjkaceBM]

Fins = Sucky Xp

But that isn't the issue.

The list is, and in terms of the way the game is set up, lists are unsociable and quite frankly against the way the game is built. The whole point of grouping and fighting baffing mobs is that once someone leaves you should HAVE to move to either collect a new groupie or to hunt lesser mobs.

Generally when xping the first group at a spot has camp rights BUT the fins list guarantees a few people a permanent camp spot for however long they are online. I've wandered there once or twice to solo the odd red and seen 4 or 5 people sat at the back waiting for a spot, and even heard of people logging there and playing their alt while a spot opens up!

The comment you make about people going AFK is quite sick really. It's no wonder we have so many level 50s running about who know shit about what their characters can and can't do, and think that level 50 means they are uber.

 

[old.Demerzel]

Fins are the only way to guarante decent exp 42-50 24 hours a day.

I think this whole thread is slliy, like saying you should be allowed to cut in line at the supermarket cuz you have a busy scedule.

 

[Tank Init]

Can u PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ gimme your groups specced at 36

think it was 4 heros 1 champ 1 bard 1 warden 1 menty, was a long time ago

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by Ch@meleon
The fins list is a good idea for some people. The list is a good thing (all in all), what is not good is the exclusive right to the fins camping spot for this group.
There are many of us who dont play every day, when we do play it's only for 2 hours or so, often very late at night (midnight or later). Some people have the type of lives which allows them to wait long periods of time to get in a fins group, but many do not. It's not the list that's the problem, its the idea that unless you are one of those in the group which keeps the list, you cant xp there .....

The spot normally used in CF cannot support two groups. There is a nightspawn though and a spawn which gives 2 instead of 3 - why dont you go there? If a spawn only supports 1 group then its first comes first served, og do you suggest the other group shall stand down because you play a lot less than them and want to kill fin's aswell?

G

 

[old.giriam]

Re: hmm

Originally posted by eneq
"On top of that you are suggesting that you decide how the rest of the realm organize their XPing"
"People who dont like fins or the list shouldnt complain, noone are forceing them to participate, go out and make your own group just the way you like it."

This is actually same poster as last quote. So basically u saying i do my group and go camp fins ? And dont take care of if there another group there ? oki......

are you that dumb or are do you just appear to be because you dont speak the language you're trying to communicate in?

G

 

[old.giriam]

Originally posted by old.Demerzel
I think this whole thread is slliy, like saying you should be allowed to cut in line at the supermarket cuz you have a busy scedule.

thank you.

G

 

[Tyka]

Re: hmm

Originally posted by eneq
Tyka did u read the post ? i think i said im a lvl 50 so dont need to get into xp groups really, But as im a PBAOE and lvl 50 i help m8´s

Yes i did read your post and why i replied like that is because i seen so many whine threads about fins its unbelievable, if you are having troubles xping or helping your friends there is 10000 OTHER places you can go to as mentioned in this post.

Anyone that is whining about not being able to get xp or find a good way to level up their chars should not play the game, imo.

It's a mmorpg and you should know how to get a GROUP of 8 players if you want to hit 50, thats what the game is about, to group! I've had 2 chars leveld to 50 and i have not been asked to join a group more than 10 times max in my xp time, i get the groups myself, i find the great xp spots myself, i dont come here whining.

And yes Ns's are worthless in the kind of groups i make, because they can not tank as well as a tank that knows what he is doing.

Anyways, try to find other places to xp at, forget the other stuff i wrote lol, im just so pissed a stealth classes that moan and moan and moan on bw instead of getting something done themselfes.

 

[Chameleon]

Originally posted by old.giriam


The spot normally used in CF cannot support two groups. There is a nightspawn though and a spawn which gives 2 instead of 3 - why dont you go there? If a spawn only supports 1 group then its first comes first served, og do you suggest the other group shall stand down because you play a lot less than them and want to kill fin's aswell?

G

I don't need to go to either spots thanks. The point is, the right to exclusively farm that spot only if you are on 16 hours a day and have the type of live that allows you to wait for a spot indefinately, is wrong. Yes I do think that if a group of players who are not able to be on for these lengths of time decided they wanted to go to fins, they should be able to. I don't say one group has any more right than another to xp anywhere ...... but the list does ... this is what the list is doing. It's not first come, first served, cos the list and the way it works means that it is always camped. Convenient for some sure, but the fins arent there for just one type of player.


btw, as an ns (saw some ns references) ..... I'm not complaining about not getting into fins group. In fact, ive never tried and dont think i will. I make my own groups, join others when asked, dont get a lot of xp, but then I can't often play for long. It's a point of principle.

 

[Tyka]

And oh, 1 more thing, i cant stand ppl going afk more than 10 minutes in groups especially in EZ, i enjoy the xping part if you do it right, and there is nothing i have not seen at finliaths, they are worthless in all kind of ways

 

[Novamir]

The first people to do fins were LD at ~46. I remember Daigh was 46 at that time, and I was 44, and Cuth was around 47/48. The first time i was introduced to pbaoe method was by these guys, using ambi and quen as pbaoer, man that was sick xp like i never knew

Then i ended up doing 46->50 in 5 days with Lanvar/Nicky/Machi/Thorinn/others + not too intensive playing, but that was crim fins because they were easier at the time.

 

[eneq]

hmm again

quote time again.

"Then i ended up doing 46->50 in 5 days with Lanvar/Nicky/Machi/Thorinn/others + not too intensive playing, but that was crim fins because they were easier at the time."

Baaaah Fins sux in XP. 46-50 in 5 days.....thats really bad,,,,,
(hope peeps understand the real point here)


"Originally posted by old.Demerzel
I think this whole thread is slliy, like saying you should be allowed to cut in line at the supermarket cuz you have a busy scedule."

This is something that gets me going ..Hmmm
Bringing RL things into game can never b really good. But if i twisted it around. Isnt it stupid having a line in supermarket that u must wait 16 hours just to get into ?

"are you that dumb or are do you just appear to be because you dont speak the language you're trying to communicate in?"
This was oldgiriam saying......hmmm,,,,he is trying to prove the point that..... hmmm Nope cant understand what he means...But again that maybe just me being bad in english.

OR he didnt understand my reply to some posts...
so ill try to clarify
"People who dont like fins or the list shouldnt complain, noone are forceing them to participate, go out and make your own group just the way you like it."

I read this like this. If i dont like the finslist no-one forces me to aklownedge it as a law. I can make my group and play whatever i like to play. I CAN go camp a spot already taken, i CAN grief players. There is no GOA rule against camping same spot as someone else.
The "noone are forcing them to paricipate" i read as if no-one can tell me NOT to camp fins with a 2 group. OR ?




AND the last qoute and the one i really want a reply to.
"Can u PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ gimme your groups specced at 36

think it was 4 heros 1 champ 1 bard 1 warden 1 menty, was a long time ago"

U telling me u killed 3 Fins with 4 lvl 36 heroes and no real Healer ? Tell me i missed something here ... Or else i would feel really stupid beginning at lvl 44-45 and thinking downtime was little long,.......

 

[old.Demerzel]

Bringing RL things into game can never b really good. But if i twisted it around. Isnt it stupid having a line in supermarket that u must wait 16 hours just to get into ?

still moste people hate those that cut in line

accept the rules, good tip is to get up 8 in the morning and ask to be put on the list

 

[Chameleon]

I went to Alton Towers (for non-uk, its a theme park ) a few months ago (again ) and they had what they called Virtual Queueing systems. You went up to a ticket machine for the ride you wanted to go on and it gave you a ticket that had a time slot, i.e. 1pm - 2pm. You come back between 1 and 2 pm and go into this special queue that bypasses all those who queued the usual way.
Now THIS would be be very cool for the fins list and allow even those who dont have long online to get a go at the fins xp!!! Only trouble I suppose is that instead of a bit of paper being used for the list, you'd probably end up needing another pc to keep track of whos where in the list, which list and when

 

[Cloak_]

*AND the last qoute and the one i really want a reply to.
"Can u PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ gimme your groups specced at 36

think it was 4 heros 1 champ 1 bard 1 warden 1 menty, was a long time ago"

U telling me u killed 3 Fins with 4 lvl 36 heroes and no real Healer ? Tell me i missed something here ... Or else i would feel really stupid beginning at lvl 44-45 and thinking downtime was little long,.......*

Well, it was 1 hell of a long time ago

We actually pulled 9 at 1 point :/ group managed to drop 5 of em b4 we had a wipeout

Think it was Me (as Falc) Tank Caildia Armolas Omega Vulcan Rhymes and Healer,, im sure that was the group,.

 

[Danya]

Re: hmm again

Originally posted by eneq
I read this like this. If i dont like the finslist no-one forces me to aklownedge it as a law. I can make my group and play whatever i like to play. I CAN go camp a spot already taken, i CAN grief players. There is no GOA rule against camping same spot as someone else.
The "noone are forcing them to paricipate" i read as if no-one can tell me NOT to camp fins with a 2 group. OR ?

Actually it IS against the CoC to grief other players. GOA can ban you for it.

As for the list, you moan and whine, but I'm yet to see anyone suggest a better system.

 

[Noche]

Eneq mate... wot r u trying to say?

Basicly u wanna PL or xp ur mate/alt and u can´t enter in the fin´s spot due to another grp with list already there. Then change spot mate. If it´s camped why over camp it?

BTW that fin spot at tree with the big monkey can´t allow 2 grps there, a well planned grp can easily deplete that. I had a grp with 2 tanks 1 NS 1 warden 1 bard 1 pber (50 with tons of dmg add RA) 1 druid and maybe 1 mentalist. I pulled crim fins, 3 packs in a row (that´s 10- fins) and then relax, usually the pber got a bit less than 50% left, a bit longer downtime but pulling 3 packs was great xp (0.1-0.2 bubble at lvl 48+). With 2 tanks and 1 warden tanking, it´s just pull, tank, wait 5 sec pull, tank, wait 5 sec pull, tank, getting 6 fins at once´s not that hard.

At that point I was earning quite more than in CF fins, till of course another grp came and camped there at otherside and then both grp were waiting fins to respawn. And guess wot, u were the pber in that grp, xp sinks when that grp came. Keep in mind that crim fin´s spot has got more fins and 4 sure I can tell u now adays with a well balanced grp u can easily empty all the camp.

Oh and at last mods plz move this thread in hib´s forum, no sense post it here, it´s hib´s bussiness

 

[Tank Init]

eneq guess u never heard of engage lol, i think the best thing for u to do is quit this game coz your shite.
i bet you have never taken a mob that you as a pbaoer cant hurt, i could tell you loads of places where the exp is better and guess what it got camp bonus as well but i guess you know best.
and no real healer a menty can out heal a druid bet you didnt know that either
this was done before the fin trees even existed and the fins then in CF where mainly night spawn came 2 at a time i think.

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by Tank Init
eneq guess u never heard of engage lol, i think the best thing for u to do is quit this game coz your shite.
i bet you have never taken a mob that you as a pbaoer cant hurt, i could tell you loads of places where the exp is better and guess what it got camp bonus as well but i guess you know best.
and no real healer a menty can out heal a druid bet you didnt know that either
this was done before the fin trees even existed and the fins then in CF where mainly night spawn came 2 at a time i think.

Well im really shite, i must agree to that, If what u say is true i have missed alot of things.
I know about the engage thingy. But that u can tank a mob thats 20-25 lvls above u and using engage to kill it ? U used boredom to kill it or what ?
Feck your XP must have sucked real hard m8. With that xp cap and must been sooo long time before u killed it wouldnt it better to go kill water beets at lvl 36 ?

And that quote about a menty out healing a druid..OF COURSE he can. If the druid didnt want to heal and specced as battledruid or any other strange reason. The Druid is our realm MAIN healer. Can we agree on that ?

Soz if i sound angry but i get so frustrated being talked to like im an idiot. And when the one talkign sounds like an idiot.

"i bet you have never taken a mob that you as a pbaoer cant hurt" of course i have done that, There is mobs in DF and elsewhere that cant b hurt b magic. But doing XP when being a PBAOE adn dont b able to hurt them ? Why ? the xp would b capped b many lvls adn the downtime b dreadful ??
Why did u make a silly posts like this ? u bored ? or just ...dunno not thinking straight ?
Must admitt im very bored at work thats why qouting and having some fun here. So i wont b angry on u if u did the post out of boredome.
But if it was other things,,,well say alot more about u then me really.

 

[eneq]

to noche

WEll noche true that crim fins r more fins then CF.
Think at crim there actually 2 (or 3 ?) spawns and in CF there is 1 around tree.

The huge diff is the respawn timer. In CF there is respawn while u kill fins. At crim u sometimes must wait for 1 spawn to get live.

I been at fins (before the list asn i mention earlier) and we been 2 groups there. There r 5 fins at CF tree. 1 group pulls 3 the other 2 and while fighting the fins respawn, Then the group that pulled 2 waited until other group pulled so they got 3 , Abd we did that with 16 peeps getting good xp. instead of 8. BUT THTATS NOT MY POINT !

ITS ABOUT THE FINSIST RUINGING GOOD XP FOR ORDINARY PLAYERS !!

got another qouter here in the last posts.

"Get up at 08.00 and sign on" ok its not a real qoute but he said something like that.

hmm get up at 08.00 ? m8 i been working 08.20 ?? should i do like someother that still lives at home with mum said ?
Quit my job ?

AND im lvl 50 i dont need to xp at fins. So no biggie for me.
BUT i still very active against stupid things and things that is fair to all.