FH Fitness Thread

[ECA]

How do you guys plan to transition into a more normal diet after losing all your weight on keto? Genuine question.

I understand that coming off keto ( which i've done a few times for ski holidays ) will add about 10-15lbs back in water weight.
If you stay under your daily total calorie requirements, you won't put fat back on. ( the water weight is inevitable ).

The problem for me is, carbs make me insatiably hungry. ( I believe the effect carbs have on some people is largely responsible for widepsread obesity that spiked hard following government guidelines to go low fat high carb as a healthy diet ).
I will NEVER return to eating anything like as many as I was previously.

I understand how to manage my weight now, it isn't a struggle or an impossible task.

Long term, going from fat to normal, obviously if I resume my previous eating habits I will get fat again - thats true of ANY dietary method you chose for weight loss.
Tldr for me is I think its much healthier to eat like this than a "balanced" diet, I'm already at the point where my carb intake was <20g a day to <50g a day, and expect it to remain there indefinitely.

 

[ileks]

I know what you mean about carbs making you hungry. Well actually I'm not sure about making you hungry; what I find is they just don't fill you up and are packed full of calories. It's so easy to demolish a bowl of pasta which could be over 1000 calories.

Currently I'm eating lots of protein but am not cutting out the carbs entirely. I've been eating the M&S "fuller longer" meals twice a day. They're really good. Also, I'm going to the gym 5 days a week now.

None of this is really sustainable though. I can lose weight easily but I always put it back on so quickly. I went from size 36 jeans to 32's being loose last year (did a load of p90x). This year I'm back up to 36 again.

I think once I lose the weight I'm going to have to give up bread, pasta and beer for the rest of my life. It's pretty depressing but I think those of us who are prone to being fat need to just give them up.

Another problem I have is whenever i'm about to watch a TV show I feel like i absolutely have to get a snack or meal or some sort. It's like I associate watching TV with food. It's terrible.

 

[Chilly]

Yeah, I've not had a pint for a long time. Been on the vodka & diet coke's. Boring as hell.

 

[Chilly]

Another problem I have is whenever i'm about to watch a TV show I feel like i absolutely have to get a snack or meal or some sort. It's like I associate watching TV with food. It's terrible.

Start making the tea/coffee before instead. It lets you do the faffing in the kitchen you're expecting but it's just a brew so no harm.

 

[Scouse]

None of this is really sustainable though.

5:2 m8.

Be hungry 2 days a week. No food until 7pm, then 450 calories.


Job jobbed. EASY.

 

[ileks]

5:2 m8.

Be hungry 2 days a week. No food until 7pm, then 450 calories.


Job jobbed. EASY.

That sounds awful I'd be absolutely fucking starving at night.

I need to really think about this. Losing weight is easy, it's keeping it off in the long run that's hard. I don't know anyone who is prone to being fat who's managed this. They always put it back on in 1-5 years. I don't know if it's genetic or what.

It's easy to think now that I will carry on going to the gym in the future but that's absolute bollocks. It's boring as hell. When I start my full time job (will be 80 hour weeks probably) I'm not going to want to go to the gym at all.

I'm also not going to spend the rest of my life weighing food. I'm going to go out for meals, go on the piss etc.

 

[Scouse]

That sounds awful I'd be absolutely fucking starving at night.

First month is really hard. As is the first week after xmas/New Year (when I just eat).

After that it's really really easy to manage. And I don't ever feel hungry when I go to bed. There's loads of foods that you can do for <500 calories that you literally can't finish a plate of 'cause there's so much.

It's also great in that you don't have to worry about any sort of diet the rest of the week. Makes things so simple.

It's boring as hell.

I agree. That's why I get out on the bike. It's a laugh with the mates at the weekend (and during the week) and, again, first month hard, rest of months great.


If you want it to be sustainable then build it into your life. What do you want to be? Fat, with all the health, energy, self confidence things that comes with (especially when you get old) - or slim and in reasonable nick - with much more energy?

Pick one. Then live it

 

[Yoni]

That sounds awful I'd be absolutely fucking starving at night.

I need to really think about this. Losing weight is easy, it's keeping it off in the long run that's hard. I don't know anyone who is prone to being fat who's managed this. They always put it back on in 1-5 years. I don't know if it's genetic or what.

It's easy to think now that I will carry on going to the gym in the future but that's absolute bollocks. It's boring as hell. When I start my full time job (will be 80 hour weeks probably) I'm not going to want to go to the gym at all.

I'm also not going to spend the rest of my life weighing food. I'm going to go out for meals, go on the piss etc.

I am prone to weight gain and I manage by watching what I eat all the time. I rarely eat bread / pasta / refined sugar substances. I do however for periods eat oats. My weight goes up and down.

For me it is not about what I weigh on the scales anymore. It's about how I feel when I wake up. I know if I had enough water the previous day, I know if I have had wheat (big no no for me), instead of feeling sorry for myself and dwelling on what I ate, I focus on the effects of how I currently feel physically and on how I felt every day for 10 years when I was morbidly obese (56 inch waist...!!!!)

For 10 years I struggled to get out of bed in the morning, I was so fat I had to climb out of the bath like an animal ( it must have been a horrible sight). I couldn't walk, my joints ached and my health deteriorated. Psychologically I felt disgusting, I didn't leave the house, Jamie drove me everywhere as walking was painful and I felt so ashamed. Additionally human beings are really really cruel....

When I focus on how I was, I don't find it difficult to get back into the zone. A before pic also helps

 

[Moif]

How do you guys plan to transition into a more normal diet after losing all your weight on keto? Genuine question.

Thing is, I look it as cutting out all of the shit I used to eat. Now, I eat as I believe we were supposed to eat. Meat, vegetables, fish, salad, greens - all that good stuff. So I plan to stick at it. I'll raise the carb amount I eat a day (currently less than 25g) to probably 50g but I'll still watch what I eat. I also plan to get down the gym once I get to a weight I'm happy with and build some shape. Basically just look after myself and maintain a healthy lifestyle.

As for the booze I do miss a pint of cider but on the flip side I've discovered some awesome rums such as Matusalem and Elements. Bloody nice stuff. And it takes me less to get a bit pissed now as Keto reduces your tolerance, so it's easier on the wallet.

Win win imo.

 

[Chilly]

It's not reduced my tolerance at all I fucking wish I got pissed easier. I've got sailor-level tolerance to booze. If I do decide to get drunk I have to drink so much it costs me an arm and a leg, especially when I'm out in fancy bars.

 

[Yoni]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/carbs-against-cardio/


For those who have concerns about keto this is an interesting read!

 

[Chilly]

Dang:

In 2008 Stampfer co-authored a study in the New England Journal of Medicine that followed 322 moderately obese individuals for two years as they adopted one of three diets: a low-fat, calorie-restricted diet based on American Heart Association guidelines; a Mediterranean, restricted-calorie diet rich in vegetables and low in red meat; and a low-carbohydrate, nonrestricted-calorie diet. Although the subjects on the low-carb diet ate the most saturated fat, they ended up with the healthiest ratio of HDL to LDL cholesterol and lost twice as much weight as their low-fat-eating counterparts.

Relatively small sample, but significant on the weight loss front.

 

[Chilly]

Frankly, the more I read, the less likely I am ever to go back to eating any significant amount of sugars over any period of time. Once at a healthy weight, I expect I'll just keep on cruisin low sugar style.

 

[raw]

No they make me poorly! So enjoy (also watch fat head )

Ahh sorry, how come they make you poorly? Edit: don't worry I read a bit further in, I see why!

 

[Scouse]

Frankly, the more I read, the less likely I am ever to go back to eating any significant amount of sugars over any period of time. Once at a healthy weight, I expect I'll just keep on cruisin low sugar style.

I don't particularly watch fats but I have tried to cut out as much sugar as possible. No white bread, only wholegrain pasta (and very rare pasta anyway tbfh).

I'm a vegetable mountain every time I can be with lean meats tbfh.

 

[Gwadien]

I don't particularly watch fats but I have tried to cut out as much sugar as possible. No white bread, only wholegrain pasta (and very rare pasta anyway tbfh).

I'm a vegetable mountain every time I can be with lean meats tbfh.

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[Wij]

I don't particularly watch fats but I have tried to cut out as much sugar as possible. No white bread, only wholegrain pasta (and very rare pasta anyway tbfh).

I'm a vegetable mountain every time I can be with lean meats tbfh.

I bet you fart a lot.

 

[Scouse]

I bet you fart a lot.

If I'm being totally 100% honest. And I am:

More than any human I know. And proud of it

 

[Tom]

I've lost 20lbs in the last 7 weeks eating whatever I like (I broke some ribs last year and couldn't do much). Of course, cycling 1,450 miles during the same period probably has something to do with it.

 

[Scouse]

I've lost 20lbs in the last 7 weeks eating whatever I like (I broke some ribs last year and couldn't do much). Of course, cycling 1,450 miles during the same period probably has something to do with it.

Fuck me. 7 weeks?!

I know you're a roadie but that's still a shitload. Well done old bean.

 

[Tom]

I plan to do 10,000 this year.

 

[TdC]

I plan to get back on the bike come february. 11 months of not cycling properly due to my shoulder. I'll also be hitting the gym again

 

[Scouse]

I plan to do 10,000 this year.

They call you ten chain thomas

 

[Chilly]

I plan to get back on the bike come february. 11 months of not cycling properly due to my shoulder. I'll also be hitting the gym again

You fancy a bike tour of (some of) the Netherlands at some point? Before you get too good on your bike again, preferably I can hop over at some point, rent/borrow/steal a bike and we can do a couple hundred kms over a weekend or something?

 

[Gumbo]

Did the second day of P90X3 this morning. 6 hours later and I'm afraid to get up from this desk to go for a pee because of the leg pain I know I will feel.

It's sooo good to get back on it though after I was pretty ill back in november and haven't been up to doing anything.

 

[ileks]

Did the second day of P90X3 this morning. 6 hours later and I'm afraid to get up from this desk to go for a pee because of the leg pain I know I will feel.

It's sooo good to get back on it though after I was pretty ill back in november and haven't been up to doing anything.

I remember when I did P90X for the first time. The next day I had to get one of my flat mates to help me put a t-shirt on

 

[Gumbo]

Yup P90X had a few days like that for me too, funnily enough more towards the end of the programme when I had really learned to push myself. This new programme looks really good, and it's big selling point of the shorter workouts doesn't seem to make it any easier than P90X, it's just working more of me with each move. Yoga tomorrow, I think I'm going to appreciate that stretch.

 

[TdC]

You fancy a bike tour of (some of) the Netherlands at some point? Before you get too good on your bike again, preferably I can hop over at some point, rent/borrow/steal a bike and we can do a couple hundred kms over a weekend or something?

I'm up for anytime after June. Until then I'm doing my paper for the bachelor.

 

[Chilly]

Furry muff. I'll give you a shout may and we can pencil something in.

 

[Chilly]

Shaved six seconds off my per-km average time for my 5km sprint (difference between todays and my previous record). And before you wankers moan that 5km is nothing - I weigh 130kg, started cycling like 3 weeks ago (after 3 years of weight gain and no exercise) and have brought my 5k time down by 2m10s overall since my first one. I do other distances, but a 5km sprint is a nice benchmark for me.