fao kagato

Stasi

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we had a small grp of 4 a bm vw druid and bard we killed u close to the beno docks, was late like 04am or so. after healing hte vw for ages i was like wtf on vent and was start looking for a heal bot damn u are hard mate, what ever takes u down in a 1 vs 1 need a nerf
i was the rr1 druid ^^
btw soz for zerging u
 

atos

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Kagato is doable with the right tactics. :p
 

brad

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Polearms get stupidly high dmg, and insane parry rate with high dps styles.

I hate them tbh. And hero's also seem to be a real pain now. Does sacre spec like mob 5 or something lol?
 

Gamah

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Can't kill heavy tanks since tank love, minstrels need to be updated.
 

Ronso

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Strategy:
Loc - 3421 423483 Emain Docks
Mob - Kagato. As he is dying he uses abilities to delay any damage he receives before using various abilities to regenerate health through Ignore Pain and Health Pots.

Spawn - Usually at night. Has been seen to spawn during day but these are just rumours, then not be seen for 24 hours real life time. Jun 30 2004
- Ronso

Tips:
Had spawn at night . As I went to engage mob , two other mobs popped beside him . Both were named mobs and acted as healers of some form. One is red con to 50, named Elitesbot and other is high purple Daemyrthestout. I found once I engaged Kagato that he would be instantly healed by Daemyrthestout while Elitesbot mob continously stunned me regardless of immunity.
Btw: I camped the place for 10 real life hours.Trying to get this mob to pop can really test your patience. Oct 21 2004
- Tierna

Popular rumor that Kagato only spawns midnight to 3 am is incorrect, he can show up at 1800 for example. He drops three other gems (Gem of keepsiege, Gem of Solo Armsman, Gem of gankgroup), which are mid-level gems of use to fighters, casters and archers. The Pitchfork Of Wadafak is a rare drop from this rare spawn, making a very wide distribution in how hard it is to obtain (some first time, others go weeks of trying), some get it first kill, others experience more than a dozen attempts. Mythic has been adjustting spawn probabilities according to patch notes.
Not that the /quest list can include "Armsman beatdown, completed" and that is something else, this encounter is called "KitekagatoKillKagato". Aug 6 2004
- Aurijion

Soloed by a level 50 Eldritch (light spec)
Doesn't always drop the pitchfork - but will give out other gem items - Strong Elixir of Healing, Shiney Uber Builder Boots etc. Only spawns at night - at least 8 hours between spawn. Eldritch died first time he did the quest but just ran back and finished it (only one of the 3 guys was left!!)- still got credit and drop. Second time pulled him out of the Beno bridge spawn area and down to the water - was much easier without those albions chewing on my head. Jul 1 2004

Drops:
Elixir of Healing Jul 4 2004
- Nocre

Pitchfork of Dhoom Level 50 Farmer Tool
31 Strength
31 Constitution
11194534310 Parry

Unless you are running a top character, Kagato is best done with 2.5 full groups . Best set up Ive found for this is below.

Bard
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Champion

Bard
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Blademaster

Hope it drops for you ! :)
 

swords

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Sorry to dissapoint you but i only drop ROG items, Mythic haven't itemised me yet :(
 

Bondoila

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Stasi said:
we had a small grp of 4 a bm vw druid and bard we killed u close to the beno docks, was late like 04am or so. after healing hte vw for ages i was like wtf on vent and was start looking for a heal bot damn u are hard mate, what ever takes u down in a 1 vs 1 need a nerf
i was the rr1 druid ^^
btw soz for zerging u
Let me guess, he used wg+battler,solider barricade and also rr5(which give 50 % parry for 30 secs then -10 for 15 secs).
Next time just mezz him when his using the abilities, if he purge just root him. After 40 secs just kill him with easy and you save all your power. But then again you might also leave him since he's usually solo.
I guess your abit shit also since it can't be hard to kill an unbuffed arms, even if he has all abilities up or haven't the druid figured out that he can shear ?
 

Ronso

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swords said:
Sorry to dissapoint you but i only drop ROG items, Mythic haven't itemised me yet :(

Im actually suprised I spelled your name right , Elites was sittin beside me IRL and ye had guard agro and I wasnt engaging , Kagato comes up and hits me with pitchfork and I was like , fair enough then heres a life tap for u !
 

Kagato

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Stasi said:
we had a small grp of 4 a bm vw druid and bard we killed u close to the beno docks, was late like 04am or so. after healing hte vw for ages i was like wtf on vent and was start looking for a heal bot damn u are hard mate, what ever takes u down in a 1 vs 1 need a nerf
i was the rr1 druid ^^
btw soz for zerging u

Normally i'd of gone straight for the bard but I couldn't be arsed as I knew i'd only get kited with a group that size with that much cc, so I thought i'd embarrase your tanks a bit instead.

Bondoila - I havent had Soldiers Barricade since old frontiers lol.
 

censi

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rr5 means any armsman can make themselves melee immune etc...

Zzzzzz
 

Alhanna

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I think very few people now exist that are tough enough to solo and be given the respect. These kind of people then are sometimes killed by numbers due to being so tough and are not easy to kill solo. Kagato such a character in game. I can think of maybe 4 others from all realms.
 

Kagato

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censi said:
rr5 means any armsman can make themselves melee immune etc...

Zzzzzz

Such bitterness still :(

And its only 30 seconds followed by a 10 second heavy penalty, this fight lasted about 90 seconds or more.
 

Fahdlan

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aint it good enough with all the utility you got on your minstrel?

they are good enough.

it's the like the best class to play in the game.
 

censi

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And its only 30 seconds followed by a 10 second heavy penalty

nerf only 30 seconds of melee immunity!

must be such fun.
 

illu

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Ronso said:
Strategy:
Loc - 3421 423483 Emain Docks
Mob - Kagato. As he is dying he uses abilities to delay any damage he receives before using various abilities to regenerate health through Ignore Pain and Health Pots.

Spawn - Usually at night. Has been seen to spawn during day but these are just rumours, then not be seen for 24 hours real life time. Jun 30 2004
- Ronso

Tips:
Had spawn at night . As I went to engage mob , two other mobs popped beside him . Both were named mobs and acted as healers of some form. One is red con to 50, named Elitesbot and other is high purple Daemyrthestout. I found once I engaged Kagato that he would be instantly healed by Daemyrthestout while Elitesbot mob continously stunned me regardless of immunity.
Btw: I camped the place for 10 real life hours.Trying to get this mob to pop can really test your patience. Oct 21 2004
- Tierna

Popular rumor that Kagato only spawns midnight to 3 am is incorrect, he can show up at 1800 for example. He drops three other gems (Gem of keepsiege, Gem of Solo Armsman, Gem of gankgroup), which are mid-level gems of use to fighters, casters and archers. The Pitchfork Of Wadafak is a rare drop from this rare spawn, making a very wide distribution in how hard it is to obtain (some first time, others go weeks of trying), some get it first kill, others experience more than a dozen attempts. Mythic has been adjustting spawn probabilities according to patch notes.
Not that the /quest list can include "Armsman beatdown, completed" and that is something else, this encounter is called "KitekagatoKillKagato". Aug 6 2004
- Aurijion

Soloed by a level 50 Eldritch (light spec)
Doesn't always drop the pitchfork - but will give out other gem items - Strong Elixir of Healing, Shiney Uber Builder Boots etc. Only spawns at night - at least 8 hours between spawn. Eldritch died first time he did the quest but just ran back and finished it (only one of the 3 guys was left!!)- still got credit and drop. Second time pulled him out of the Beno bridge spawn area and down to the water - was much easier without those albions chewing on my head. Jul 1 2004

Drops:
Elixir of Healing Jul 4 2004
- Nocre

Pitchfork of Dhoom Level 50 Farmer Tool
31 Strength
31 Constitution
11194534310 Parry

Unless you are running a top character, Kagato is best done with 2.5 full groups . Best set up Ive found for this is below.

Bard
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Champion

Bard
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Blademaster

Hope it drops for you ! :)

LOL repped :>

Oli - Illu
 

Eeben

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brad said:
Polearms get stupidly high dmg, and insane parry rate with high dps styles.

I hate them tbh. And hero's also seem to be a real pain now. Does sacre spec like mob 5 or something lol?

warriors is pretty much the same:)
 

Righthandof

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censi said:
rr5 means any armsman can make themselves melee immune etc...

Zzzzzz

thats a bit tricky tbh. i think the effect lasts 30 sec, and after they get a huge minus on parry/block, so you just need to look for the effect, when he presses, kite/root/stun/mezz until effect drops off. can count it on /clock. after that you can kill nps.
 

Zoia

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brad said:
Polearms get stupidly high dmg, and insane parry rate with high dps styles.

I hate them tbh. And hero's also seem to be a real pain now. Does sacre spec like mob 5 or something lol?
I was wondering that too. He parried and blocked almost everything from my zerker. :(
Gamah said:
Can't kill heavy tanks since tank love, minstrels need to be updated.
Skalds need some love too!
 

gohan

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Righthandof said:
thats a bit tricky tbh. i think the effect lasts 30 sec, and after they get a huge minus on parry/block, so you just need to look for the effect, when he presses, kite/root/stun/mezz until effect drops off. can count it on /clock. after that you can kill nps.
no the penalty is ridiculas its +50% for 30 secs then ONLY -10% an ONLY for 15 seconds .... thats not a penalty atall tbh its 1 of the most OP RR5 abilitys around atm, fuck battler or warguard just pop rr5 an watch every melee drop to thier knees an cry..... as for all the people that go lolzor kite him rly......

armsmen get...... DET, Fury (50% chance to avoid CC an 50% magic resists) stocism 25% base DET, phalanax-defenders revenge chain -9 sec stun back style chain so turning ur back not the best of plans and crippling blow anytime snare style..... u try kite that on a melee char........ or any char tbh
 

Kagato

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censi said:
nerf only 30 seconds of melee immunity!

must be such fun.

Melee immunity lol? its a 50% boost, that means your likely to defend against 80% of attacks on most common armsmen, maybe 90% on a good high RR, sounds nice except for the fact its still under the normal penalties of parry.

That means with 2 attackers ( and there was 4 people in this group) your already back down to 40-45% which is typical tank average defense, and its only frontal arc, so again anyone attacking from the sides or back the ability is totally wasted on. And 2 good tanks who know what they are doing can easily keep 1 out of the frontal arc, they had healers so the usual 'backing up' tricks are worthless. And thats not even taking the penalty into consideration after.

Its a good ability yes, but melee immunity? no, only to whiney little rangers who can't stand not being able to kill all visual heavy tanks.
 

Dukat

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Ronso said:
Strategy:
Loc - 3421 423483 Emain Docks
Mob - Kagato. As he is dying he uses abilities to delay any damage he receives before using various abilities to regenerate health through Ignore Pain and Health Pots.

Spawn - Usually at night. Has been seen to spawn during day but these are just rumours, then not be seen for 24 hours real life time. Jun 30 2004
- Ronso

Tips:
Had spawn at night . As I went to engage mob , two other mobs popped beside him . Both were named mobs and acted as healers of some form. One is red con to 50, named Elitesbot and other is high purple Daemyrthestout. I found once I engaged Kagato that he would be instantly healed by Daemyrthestout while Elitesbot mob continously stunned me regardless of immunity.
Btw: I camped the place for 10 real life hours.Trying to get this mob to pop can really test your patience. Oct 21 2004
- Tierna

Popular rumor that Kagato only spawns midnight to 3 am is incorrect, he can show up at 1800 for example. He drops three other gems (Gem of keepsiege, Gem of Solo Armsman, Gem of gankgroup), which are mid-level gems of use to fighters, casters and archers. The Pitchfork Of Wadafak is a rare drop from this rare spawn, making a very wide distribution in how hard it is to obtain (some first time, others go weeks of trying), some get it first kill, others experience more than a dozen attempts. Mythic has been adjustting spawn probabilities according to patch notes.
Not that the /quest list can include "Armsman beatdown, completed" and that is something else, this encounter is called "KitekagatoKillKagato". Aug 6 2004
- Aurijion

Soloed by a level 50 Eldritch (light spec)
Doesn't always drop the pitchfork - but will give out other gem items - Strong Elixir of Healing, Shiney Uber Builder Boots etc. Only spawns at night - at least 8 hours between spawn. Eldritch died first time he did the quest but just ran back and finished it (only one of the 3 guys was left!!)- still got credit and drop. Second time pulled him out of the Beno bridge spawn area and down to the water - was much easier without those albions chewing on my head. Jul 1 2004

Drops:
Elixir of Healing Jul 4 2004
- Nocre

Pitchfork of Dhoom Level 50 Farmer Tool
31 Strength
31 Constitution
11194534310 Parry

Unless you are running a top character, Kagato is best done with 2.5 full groups . Best set up Ive found for this is below.

Bard
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Champion

Bard
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Druid
Blademaster

Hope it drops for you ! :)

I roffled IRL!!!!

:clap: :clap:
 

censi

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you will never conceed that any abilities an arsman has is OP because you play one. (confirmed by your FZ is OP wargay is balanced)

this particulary ability is of little or no consequence to FG RVR or wide scale RVR for which it was introduced (im guessing)

but in 1v1 siutations its ridiculous. And thats what a lot of people play. For me if this ability is used against me an already 1 sided contest becomes some what comical.

I just think things like this kind of take away any skill factor and just make targets unkillable tbh. that cant be good.

maybe do what they did to FZ (which lasted 9 secs) and say you cant attack while you use this ability. Seems fair to me but you cant have half a minute of 90% parry rate ffs... I dont have to explain why to you do I?
 

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you could always use desperate bowman and kite a little. most classes have a way of countering things like the armsman RR5.
 

Kagato

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censi said:
you will never conceed that any abilities an arsman has is OP because you play one. (confirmed by your FZ is OP wargay is balanced)

this particulary ability is of little or no consequence to FG RVR or wide scale RVR for which it was introduced (im guessing)

but in 1v1 siutations its ridiculous. And thats what a lot of people play. For me if this ability is used against me an already 1 sided contest becomes some what comical.

I just think things like this kind of take away any skill factor and just make targets unkillable tbh. that cant be good.

maybe do what they did to FZ (which lasted 9 secs) and say you cant attack while you use this ability. Seems fair to me but you cant have half a minute of 90% parry rate ffs... I dont have to explain why to you do I?

Oooh look, censi turned this into a Warguard whine, theres something new ! and it only took 2 pages. And this was NOT 1 on 1, if it was i'd of won. It was 4 vs 1 with an unwinnable combination of enemy classes so I just decided to last as long as possible and see how much power I could make them waste. If they had less healing power I may of tried to seriously win or take some down with me.

As for taking away skill factor, fine, take away my RR5, but if you do you better take away the champion RR5, the warrior rr5 and the hero rr5 all of which are equally as good if not far better.

And 30 seconds of 90% parry ? yes why can't I have that? when its totally useless against any ranged class or spellcaster, totally useless against duo's or multiple enemies, totally useless for group siturations and still comes with a heavy penalty?

I'd trade it for the champ rr5 or warrior rr5 any day, heck if I had the champ rr5 i'd probably of killed some that group.
 

Stasi

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it was LONG fight vw and bm used ages to kill him i bet kagato killed the vw 4-5 times if not healed ^^
 

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