Falklands War 2: The reboot

Ch3tan

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yes, but also clogs. As if they would go for men in clogs.
 

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How about you greedy bastards get out of an island half across the world, where you dont really belong? :flame:

There has been a British settlement on the Falklands since 1765, Argentina wasn't founded until 1809. ( and that's debateable ).

Your response please good sir?
 

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We're the British Empire sonny! We own most of the world don't you forget it!

The Sun NEVER sets on the British Empire!!!!! Well that was until we gave it all back

see the sig tbfh :p

did anyone else spot the news that "there is definately in no way a naval task force on its way down there"
uh-huh...
 

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see the sig tbfh :p

did anyone else spot the news that "there is definately in no way a naval task force on its way down there"
uh-huh...

Heh - yeah and I guess thats down to how you define a 'task force' - we are sending more ships tho (and probably a sub too).
 

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In terms of a public display to boost confidence the act of having another ship in the area and calling in a bit more frequently will achieve the aim.

In terms of stopping the Argentinians doing something stupid, letting slip to them that there's a British sub in the area should take care of that. The sub can't protect the islands itself but can intercept any troop ships or other ships. That's probably a risk the Argentinians wouldn't be willing to take. Whatever you might think of the sinking of the Belgrano it did make the Argentinians think twice about moving more ships to the Falklands. It's also a threat that is very hard, or even impossible for them to counter.
 

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The sub can't protect the islands itself but can intercept any troop ships or other ships. That's probably a risk the Argentinians wouldn't be willing to take. Whatever you might think of the sinking of the Belgrano it did make the Argentinians think twice about moving more ships to the Falklands. It's also a threat that is very hard, or even impossible for them to counter.

Precisely - they cant take the islands without troops and they cant get troops there without ships.

Obsolete WW2 battleships are just floating coffins v a modern sub.
 

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There has been a British settlement on the Falklands since 1765, Argentina wasn't founded until 1809. ( and that's debateable ).

Your response please good sir?

Brilliantly delivered ECA :).
 

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There has been a British settlement on the Falklands since 1765, Argentina wasn't founded until 1809. ( and that's debateable ).

Your response please good sir?

Argentina was given them by Spain, and Spain was given them by Pope Alexander VI, and he speaks for God.

God > Britain.

QED
 

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Argentina was given them by Spain, and Spain was given them by Pope Alexander VI, and he speaks for God.

God > Britain.

QED

Good story of fiction could come from that statement.
 

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Argentina was given them by Spain, and Spain was given them by Pope Alexander VI, and he speaks for God.

God > Britain.

QED

Who? Oh that bloke that was invented by our ancestors to modernise pagan worship.
 

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In terms of a public display to boost confidence the act of having another ship in the area and calling in a bit more frequently will achieve the aim.

In terms of stopping the Argentinians doing something stupid, letting slip to them that there's a British sub in the area should take care of that. The sub can't protect the islands itself but can intercept any troop ships or other ships. That's probably a risk the Argentinians wouldn't be willing to take. Whatever you might think of the sinking of the Belgrano it did make the Argentinians think twice about moving more ships to the Falklands. It's also a threat that is very hard, or even impossible for them to counter.

thats still afaik the only warship sunk by a nuclear submarine ?
maybe argentina want to get a set
 

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Argentina was given them by Spain, and Spain was given them by Pope Alexander VI, and he speaks for God.

God > Britain.

QED

Sorry mate, but it's historically proven that if god doesn't do what we want him to then we act like the Popular Front of Judea and split off into our own faction.
 

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thats still afaik the only warship sunk by a nuclear submarine ?
maybe argentina want to get a set

Actually they have modernised their fleet a bit since the Falklands war - retired all the WW2 junk and bought more modern replacements. Bought some modern Subs but only diesel electric crap.

Retired their only aircraft carrier so no idea if they have sufficient range to reach the Falklands with their fighters?
 

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Retired their only aircraft carrier so no idea if they have sufficient range to reach the Falklands with their fighters?

They did last time, but were pwned by our Harriers, I think 27 aircraft shot down or destroyed on the ground to harriers? Lots more destroyed by AA or SAS raids etc. We lost 6 to accident or groundfire, none in air to air.

Coincidentally, I stumbled on a program about the Vulcan Bomber last night while having my tea, which reminded me of the Black Buck missions. Amazing flights to drop a few bombs to scare the Argentines which worked a treat. It would be so much easier to do now with our cruise missile capability. As said before though, with 6 Typhoons based on the Islands, the Argentines wouldn't stand a chance.
 

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see the sig tbfh :p

did anyone else spot the news that "there is definately in no way a naval task force on its way down there"
uh-huh...

I wouldnt either, i know what i get up to when the lights are off. I can only imagine everyone else is doing the same
 

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with 6 Typhoons based on the Islands, the Argentines wouldn't stand a chance.

Where do you lot get your figures from, there are only 4 typhoons there, there were only 4 tornados (but only three worked) when I was there. Also someone mentioned earlier about the garrison at the airbase, something about 500, it's roughly about a thousand personel at any one time.

Here's what the old tornados used to get up to.

YouTube- FLIGHT 1435 The Original Plan
 

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Sorry, 4 it is, still plenty to take care of Argentina's pre-Vietnam era air force.
 

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Argentina have raised the issue of Falklands Sovereignty to the UN - its doubtful they would try any military action while thats going through in case they win (unlikely).
 

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Where do you lot get your figures from, there are only 4 typhoons there, there were only 4 tornados (but only three worked) when I was there. Also someone mentioned earlier about the garrison at the airbase, something about 500, it's roughly about a thousand personel at any one time.

Here's what the old tornados used to get up to.

YouTube- FLIGHT 1435 The Original Plan

Great vid and ofc the RAF play Xbox, they are classy lads. :)
 

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China has been developing ties with Argentina, if they supply discount military hardware so chinese oil companies can make money off oil deals and use Argentina as a proxy ( sound familiar to US foreign policy anyone? ) - how willing is the US going to be to come support us?
 

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China has been developing ties with Argentina, if they supply discount military hardware so chinese oil companies can make money off oil deals and use Argentina as a proxy ( sound familiar to US foreign policy anyone? ) - how willing is the US going to be to come support us?

Since the US is already batshit paranoid about Chinese activity in latin America (Senor Chavez of course but also the way they're buying up the whole world's supply of lithium from Bolivia) then a proxy confrontation between the UK and Argentina wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing from a US perspective; certainly less damaging than direct confrontation with Venezuela, and those oil supplies under friendly UK control makes more sense to the Americans than the same supplies under potentially hostile Argentine control.

I mentioned the Chinese threat in an earlier post, but I don't think they would do anything overt, and if its was a supply and advice deal, that can take quite some time and is pretty noticable; more than enough time for the UK to reinforce the place.
 

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China has been developing ties with Argentina, if they supply discount military hardware so chinese oil companies can make money off oil deals and use Argentina as a proxy ( sound familiar to US foreign policy anyone? ) - how willing is the US going to be to come support us?

True but I doubt this oil would be cheap enough for china - a lot of it lies deep and the location presents logistical challenges - cheaper to get it elsewhere. Theres money to be made there but it will still require a lot of investment.
 

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WW3 China vs America. Its all going very Fallout 3!
 

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