eve beta

[old.LandShark]

If corps really can build space stations, that'd be impressive, as well as providing a target. But what then stops HyperMegaUltraCorp from going and demolishing UltraSuperMaxicorp's station at 3am? Seems like something of a flawed system. And if losing a station isn't a problem, then surely attacking one isn't worth it. I mean, even if relics did nothing for you it'd still be worth taking them away from the enemy realms. If relics did nothing at all who the heck would bother RRing?
I dunno, I'd truly love to find out that there was plenty of reason to do organised PvP (organised, as opposed to pirating or bountyhunting) in EVE, but atm I am ignorant of it.

edit: oh, as to 'best asteroids', hmm.... Unless the ultra rare types are really, really insanely incredibly rare and are, for example, the only source of a truly rare material used in building really high-end systems/ships... then I can't see that working. The medium-rare roids are pretty damn easy to find, slightly tougher if you can't handle the crappy low-'level' pirates, but still...

 

[Killgorde]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
Killgorde:With the size of the EVE universe, I can hardly imagine there being constant, non-stop emain-style action anywhere, but what I'm wondering is what cause there will be to fight other than two corps getting in contact and saying "Hey guys, want to go and blow hell out of each other?".... I haven't got a corp and I've been happy to discover more about the game myself instead of asking for help 24/7 in the chat channel. (Not that it's bad to ask other players for help, I just prefer finding out myself in a game with such a cinematic setting)
I mean, what are the EVE equivalents of relics or indeed keeps?
Oh, and I'm also curious about the police. Can you actually kill the police forces in 1.0sec systems if you turn up with a battleship? I'm longing for a game where being a pirate (or equivalent) in secure systems is possible, merely incredibly hard. As opposed to DAoC, where you absolutely cannot get through the border keeps, ever.

Corporate wars will be fought over a number of issues: low security systems because of the mineral wealth and rare blueprints because of the uniqueness they bring in equipment to your corp are just two of them. The ability to scan someone elses cargo hold and nail him if you like what he is carrying will lead to a lot of friction (particularly over blueprints in a market where only the basic gear (low-tech level) is freely available). The ability to attack another corp's station where bp's are being held is another. Also with the competetiveness of people there is already a "sizing-up" pre-release among the big boys. There are corps geared up to be the "bad guys" (Taosp, RaiD to name a couple) who will make life "interesting" for others.

As to pirating and attacking high security systems - yes it can be done but needs firepower. If you "get info" (please don't lock on-it isnt wise ) on the police in your area you will usually find them at cruiser level and below - easy take down with a couple of battleships. Those bloody sentry guns hurt though. Bear in mind that away from regulated space there are about 3k systems (do a search on ORET-H or M-OENA regions and check the number of jumps) to see just how large unreg space is. The majority of systems in these areas are low security and unpopulated - they are for the players to populate, build stations in and defend their assets (factories/corporate hangers/mineral rights to the areas they control). Most players who log in in beta only travel in the regulated (Empire controlled regions) but the future lies in player controlled constellations away from the NPCs where the serious riches (and friction with them) reside. It won't happen overnight because the server will take time to develop as the players develop and spread their wings. One thing Eve isnt is a game for the short of attention span.

There's a lot been said about the necessity to join a corp but freelancing is doable if you wish the solo life. I havent linked up with my corp in Beta 7 as I'm charting deep into unreg. Still made 20 million, flying a kick ass cruiser and have more firepower than anyone I know in my corp due to the drops the NPC pirates are obligingly giving me. Solo is fun...but knowledge about how to go about succeeding at it takes time to acquire.

Perhaps the best example I can give of how enthralling this game is (for some of us) : I've had 3 player wipes now and started from scratch 4 times (bloody devs) and still suffer withdrawal symptoms during the daily 2 hour maintenance. And after 3 months I still get the impression I don't even know 25% of the game dynamics - they are that vast and there are that many areas (Biotech, Manufacturing, Mneumonics Research, Station Management, Leadership to name a few) I havent even looked into its staggering.

PS PM me in-game if you have any queries I may be able to help you with LS - happy to oblige. Callsign is Shaeffer or the usual.

 

[katt!]

Originally posted by Repent
Katt, if you dont wanna read my posts dont read my threds and piss off u dumb fuck, stop flaming me so badly for no reason!


Its easy to tell if a game has depth or not even if I have played only a few days, I already know alot about it, I know its limits, you could tell the depth of DAoC by the time u hit L40ish, eve is just more apparent, and also Katt... even if it doesnt have any depth its MY FUCKING OPINION, this isnt a communist country, I can say what I think, its my god and law given right so JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THE NONE STOP FLAMES YOU FAGGOT!
IM FED UP WITH IT!!!!!!!

k.

stop posting. this is a request. from all of us.

 

[Repent Reloaded]

No, from you. In most respects you've been more then a twat then me, I dont flame people repeatedly regardless of whats going on, you sir are a Twat:great:

-edit-
I also noticed u didnt come up with one of ur little bum ass flames, why ? becoz I was 100% right there, you just got pwned.


/em waits for a smart "reason why I didnt flame" exuse.

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
If corps really can build space stations, that'd be impressive, as well as providing a target. But what then stops HyperMegaUltraCorp from going and demolishing UltraSuperMaxicorp's station at 3am?

the nice thing of eve that there is no 3 am? This isnt something like an us server of daoc or europe server where you know that for 90% off the ppl it is 3 am. I think that lots off players will be from europe and us but also from australia and asia. So 3 am raids aint that easy, besides i believe there is some npc protection aswell?

 

[lofff]

eve is fucking boring.. realized after 40mins of warping and jumping etc

(15mins mining till cargohold filled up did help too)

not for me ;|

 

[chi_]

Originally posted by old.m0000
willing to give eve another chance I've just spent 2 hours on it


ps: can't say i didn't try - eve is shit, that by the way is opinion.

Idiot.

 

[Repent Reloaded]

2 hours lmao!
yes, idiot.... I agree... he judges a MMORPG month+ game in 2 hours, Like making a L5 char on DAoC was 'fun'. Dude, you need to give it days become good not hours.

 

[Anu]

Well i've been in the beta for about 3-4 weeks now and at first it was strange and interesting actually working out how things worked.. and tbh it's strangly addictive .. i've just bought my 3rd ship and think it's great.

I've not even touched on 80% of the game and i think it's great.

I will be playing it on release.

p.s. anyone have a aidea on what the subs will be a month?

 

[old.LandShark]

Originally posted by Killgorde
PS PM me in-game if you have any queries I may be able to help you with LS - happy to oblige. Callsign is Shaeffer or the usual.

Well, thanks for that and thanks for an informative reply
Must say that, what with death and loss of property being a risk in this game, surely stuff like 3am 'relic raids' (read: station destruction) would not merely be possible but also truly awful? Even compared to losing all your relics in DAoC, or something

 

[katt!]

Originally posted by Repent
No, from you. In most respects you've been more then a twat then me, I dont flame people repeatedly regardless of whats going on, you sir are a Twat:great:

-edit-
I also noticed u didnt come up with one of ur little bum ass flames, why ? becoz I was 100% right there, you just got pwned.


/em waits for a smart "reason why I didnt flame" exuse.

uh yeah i got pwned. no, actually i didnt. im just amazed by your stupidity.

you CANT judge a game until you've played it fully. and i wouldnt say having a level 40 classifies as playing daoc "fully". neither would playing eve for a week.

just to put it in perspective..
go play tgh, getting a lvl 50 char there takes about 2-6 days of casual play. still you can after being 50 for 1-2 years have ALOT left to learn about PK/PVP.

 

[Repent Reloaded]

uh yeah i got pwned. no, actually i didnt. im just amazed by your stupidity.

you CANT judge a game until you've played it fully. and i wouldnt say having a level 40 classifies as playing daoc "fully". neither would playing eve for a week.

just to put it in perspective..
go play tgh, getting a lvl 50 char there takes about 2-6 days of casual play. still you can after being 50 for 1-2 years have ALOT left to learn about PK/PVP.

Yes you did get pwned, and yes YOU can judge a game, people judge others by first impressions, ALL the other guys here have judged the game without playing it for even a DAY and you dare to flame me, dude, get bent. You just wanna flame me and no one else, its fucking pathetic. I can judge what I like when I like so dont go telling me what I can and cant do.

After an ammount of time playing a game you can pritty much see what its going to be like for the rest of the time you play it.
Katt, I feel your just talking Bullshit now in order to get any flame in, this post was fine till your stinkin ass showed up. As you said you dont wanna read my posts so piss off please.

 

[katt!]

Yes you did get pwned, and yes YOU can judge a game, people judge others by first impressions, ALL the other guys here have judged the game without playing it for even a DAY and you dare to flame me, dude, get bent. You just wanna flame me and no one else, its fucking pathetic. I can judge what I like when I like so dont go telling me what I can and cant do.

i flame you because you are so fucking stupid. follow the leader etc. you are gonna suck as much at eve as you do in daoc - a game that requires about 0.2% skill. the question is not if you like the game or not, its if you understand the endgame at lower levels - which you dont in daoc. which you dont in eve either i guess - because then its very very boring

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
Well, thanks for that and thanks for an informative reply
Must say that, what with death and loss of property being a risk in this game, surely stuff like 3am 'relic raids' (read: station destruction) would not merely be possible but also truly awful? Even compared to losing all your relics in DAoC, or something

a good coorperation that gets a station makes sure it got people from all over the world so it got a reasonable chance it wont get its station blown up? Besides as i said earlier i think there will be a possibility to gaurd your station with npc's . Off course they can still destroy those if they really want it, but npc's+your ppl online should make it hard enough for them. If they still succeed then their side might just have been stronger than your coorp is .

 

[Repent Reloaded]

k, Katt, your just talking out your arse now, you know nothing of my skill in DAoC ....... wait im not even gonna explain myself to you, your not worth it, jesus christ. Katt your nothing to me. Fuck yourself you sad looser.

 

[katt!]

Originally posted by Repent
k, Katt, your just talking out your arse now, you know nothing of my skill in DAoC ....... wait im not even gonna explain myself to you, your not worth it, jesus christ. Katt your nothing to me. Fuck yourself you sad looser.

you didnt even get 50. which requires no skill. :/

go madzkill some clubz.

 

[Repent Reloaded]

I didnt get level 50 becoz i moved realm 3 times and no class could hold my interest for 50 levels, and there is no shame in not gettin L50, its a game, my game, you play the game to your enjoyment, not to satisfy others.
You cant possibly say i have no skill when you've never seen me play, please talk sence or dont say anything.

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Repent, you quit the game, why are you still here trying to justify yourself to katt, go away

 

[katt!]

Originally posted by Repent
its been made clear ppl dont know how to deal with BD's, 1 aoe mezz and a few nukes on ur commander then ur fucked. people need to think instead of F8 attack/nuke

...

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Straight over my head...

 

[old.LandShark]

Shadowblade looked like sustaining your interest until they were de-uberized

 

[old.LandShark]

Hooray, just got PKed in 3 seconds flat for no reason, in EVE. Sigh.
I am SO telling all my friends not to buy this game if it goes live without insurance for better ships and a way to avoid losing skills when you die >_<

 

[katt!]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
Hooray, just got PKed in 3 seconds flat for no reason, in EVE. Sigh.
I am SO telling all my friends not to buy this game if it goes live without insurance for better ships and a way to avoid losing skills when you die >_<

check back in 6 months, they might have patched in some fun then as well

 

[old.LandShark]

Fun is in already, you mongtard
But atm there's nothing to prevent "level 50s" from "RvRing" against "level 5s"

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
Fun is in already, you mongtard
But atm there's nothing to prevent "level 50s" from "RvRing" against "level 5s"

not really true there is a police force, but if you come along with a few battleships the police is not a problem(so i have read). However police doesnt controll all off space, but real prob is the no insurance thingy, which means you can lose all your cruiser and have to earn it back again :/. But you can do that back to the pirates aswell. So just get your corp to clean that piece off space or avoid it

 

[katt!]

depends on what you define as "fun"

and i dunno.. how would they go about "level-limiting" PK range in a skill-based system?

 

[Driwen]

Originally posted by katt!
depends on what you define as "fun"

and i dunno.. how would they go about "level-limiting" PK range in a skill-based system?

they dont? neither did daoc btw and most pvp games dont limit pk to lvls they do make it not worth your time

 

[katt!]

Originally posted by driwen
they dont? neither did daoc btw and most pvp games dont limit pk to lvls they do make it not worth your time

they did in daoc. think about for a while. i guess they do in eve as well with security zones etc. besides, in daoc you lose "nothing" when you die.

and the "not worth your time" argument is pointless, there will always be people PKing newbs just to piss them off.

 

[Repent Reloaded]

if noobs wonder into low SR area expect to be pk'd, if ur new and u go into any SR area thats like goin upto a L50 SB while ur a L5 chanter and call him a prick, stay in a high SR and u wont get Pk'd

 

[old.LandShark]

Well I was mining in a 0.5 system in an imicus with all the shield and armour upgrades I could cram onto it, with a friend of mine in a tristan escorting me.... after about 20th trip back to the station, there was some guy in a Vexor there, blew both of us out of the sky in about 5 seconds flat. I'm just wondering what the hell the point is in being in a frigate instead of a cruiser, when you get two-shotted? I got hit for 149 and 137....
What's going to stop it from ending up that if you don't have a battleship you're going to be ganked the first time you set foot in a roid belt that bears more than scordite? >_<