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shields are the best thing to be fully trained in imo 
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katt!
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if you listen carefully, you can hear landsharks mind snap
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Jiggs
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heh i hear him all the time in /gu i'm used to it
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Sibanac
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If you played eve for a few days and werent in a good corp, you have no basis to found an opinion of the game.
The game is corp driven, and for that the mechanics are superb.
Aswell the Devs are only putting things on the servers that need tesing so alot of content is not in the game yet atm.
Add to that that the servers are underpopulated at the moment aswell due to the game still beeing beta.
The game is corp driven, and for that the mechanics are superb.
Aswell the Devs are only putting things on the servers that need tesing so alot of content is not in the game yet atm.
Add to that that the servers are underpopulated at the moment aswell due to the game still beeing beta.
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old.LandShark
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Only thing that worries me is the fact that they have a hell of a lot of stuff to either activate or implement in an extremely short space of time. I mean, the release date is rather imminent 
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Sibanac
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Originally posted by old.LandShark
Only thing that worries me is the fact that they have a hell of a lot of stuff to either activate or implement in an extremely short space of time. I mean, the release date is rather imminent
yep bit worried about that and the fact that i cant find any pre orders.
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Karam_gruul
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www.game.uk.com
thats the only place u can currently get it from. they have exclusive release rights for the first week.
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Sibanac
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I checked most of the sites listed on the eve-online sites but either i cant get it shipped here or it costs more to ship then the game itself
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moo_work
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I logged in and it was great for about an hour, i liked how you could totally customise your chars facial bonestructure and etc.
the main problems i had with it , and why i stopped playing and deleted it after ~1 day is:
a) graphics are nothing special
b) even if there is more to do than mine, there does not seem to be
c) the chat system/boxes/windows are totally shite
d) the place is far too big
e) quite laggy
f) took ~30 minutes of retrying just to connect to a proxy
g) i wanted to train something but was told, after much searching myself, that 'training is broken' - that kinda strikes me of something along the lines in daoc of 'can i level up?', 'sorry leveling up is broken'.
h) it takes far too long to do anything or get anywhere
i) you get very little reward for buying low and selling high, except mabye getting a few credits more for the trouble of warping/jumping for 10 minutes each time between the systems.
Now these are all just my opinion when entering the game for the first time, having read some of the comments on this thread I decided to reinstall it tonight and give it another chance.
I had hoped that it would be a mmorpg & 3d version of the great classic (originally mac) game called Escape Velocity (single player) Which eve seems to be totally ripping the idea from tbh, except adding lag and pointlessness.
the main problems i had with it , and why i stopped playing and deleted it after ~1 day is:
a) graphics are nothing special
b) even if there is more to do than mine, there does not seem to be
c) the chat system/boxes/windows are totally shite
d) the place is far too big
e) quite laggy
f) took ~30 minutes of retrying just to connect to a proxy
g) i wanted to train something but was told, after much searching myself, that 'training is broken' - that kinda strikes me of something along the lines in daoc of 'can i level up?', 'sorry leveling up is broken'.
h) it takes far too long to do anything or get anywhere
i) you get very little reward for buying low and selling high, except mabye getting a few credits more for the trouble of warping/jumping for 10 minutes each time between the systems.
Now these are all just my opinion when entering the game for the first time, having read some of the comments on this thread I decided to reinstall it tonight and give it another chance.
I had hoped that it would be a mmorpg & 3d version of the great classic (originally mac) game called Escape Velocity (single player) Which eve seems to be totally ripping the idea from tbh, except adding lag and pointlessness.
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Sibanac
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a) thats a matter of taste
b) Ask anyone who is brand new to daoc what the game is about and he'll say hit things with a stick/pointy/heavy object
c)They take getting used to, once you learn how to work em they pretty efficient actualy
d) its space its suposed to be big ! and the server is largely underpopulated amt
e) they have been testing and changing clusters for the past few weeks, causing a lot of lag, before that all ran verry well
f)see e
g)Thats why its called beta test
h) you can get round pretty fast once you learn to use the map
i) well your not buying and selling the right things in the right places (bigger loads and more expensive goods tend to give more %profit)
b) Ask anyone who is brand new to daoc what the game is about and he'll say hit things with a stick/pointy/heavy object
c)They take getting used to, once you learn how to work em they pretty efficient actualy
d) its space its suposed to be big ! and the server is largely underpopulated amt
e) they have been testing and changing clusters for the past few weeks, causing a lot of lag, before that all ran verry well
f)see e
g)Thats why its called beta test
h) you can get round pretty fast once you learn to use the map
i) well your not buying and selling the right things in the right places (bigger loads and more expensive goods tend to give more %profit)
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old.LandShark
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a) That's your opinion. Personally I think they look great, but hey.
b) What is there to do in DAoC, hmm? Kill mobs or go fight players... well, erm, EVE is the same you know ;>
c) Yeah, they're looking at it. Basic issue is that main Corp chat is faaarr too spammy with absolutely everyone using it by default. As far as the addressbook, PM system, 'cg' system etc goes it's very efficient.
d) It's a beta server, I'd be surprised if there weren't twice as many people playing it on release.
e) I agree but it's a test server. Of course, if they don't upgrade their servers for release, then release day is going to be havoc.
f) Never had a problem.
g) *Some* skills are broken. The majority aren't.
h) Getting somewhere is easy. Skills train in real-world time instead of halting when you log out, so that takes less time than DAoC PvE by a long shot. I won't even bother comparing skill advancement here to levelling in EQ ;p
i) With the miniscule amount of credits you get from entering the game, doing a single mining run to the nearest rocks and then hitting a trade route, you can straight away do a ~12% profit run. The more capital you have to start with and the bigger the ship you have, obviously, the more you stand to make.
Good, it's unusually laggy today but hey, shit happens
Pointless comment imho, you could as well say that escape velocity ripped off elite on the BBC :uhoh: or that DAoC is a rip-off of trading card games
Lag... well, yeah, atm Eve is suffering a lot from lag.
But pointlessness? If adding multiplayer to a game 'template' is pointless, then why do people play CS instead of Doom1?
b) What is there to do in DAoC, hmm? Kill mobs or go fight players... well, erm, EVE is the same you know ;>
c) Yeah, they're looking at it. Basic issue is that main Corp chat is faaarr too spammy with absolutely everyone using it by default. As far as the addressbook, PM system, 'cg' system etc goes it's very efficient.
d) It's a beta server, I'd be surprised if there weren't twice as many people playing it on release.
e) I agree but it's a test server. Of course, if they don't upgrade their servers for release, then release day is going to be havoc.
f) Never had a problem.
g) *Some* skills are broken. The majority aren't.
h) Getting somewhere is easy. Skills train in real-world time instead of halting when you log out, so that takes less time than DAoC PvE by a long shot. I won't even bother comparing skill advancement here to levelling in EQ ;p
i) With the miniscule amount of credits you get from entering the game, doing a single mining run to the nearest rocks and then hitting a trade route, you can straight away do a ~12% profit run. The more capital you have to start with and the bigger the ship you have, obviously, the more you stand to make.
Good, it's unusually laggy today but hey, shit happens
Pointless comment imho, you could as well say that escape velocity ripped off elite on the BBC :uhoh: or that DAoC is a rip-off of trading card games
Lag... well, yeah, atm Eve is suffering a lot from lag.
But pointlessness? If adding multiplayer to a game 'template' is pointless, then why do people play CS instead of Doom1?
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Karlo
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I got into it about a month ago;
I played it for about 2 weeks until characters were all reset. And couldn't be bothered to go thorugh n00bie stuff again.
It was ok, but I still prefer DaoC.
I played it for about 2 weeks until characters were all reset. And couldn't be bothered to go thorugh n00bie stuff again.
It was ok, but I still prefer DaoC.
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old.LandShark
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You don't know what EVE is like with the equivalent of an RR8 though, do you? Might be more fun, I think it's true to say your inf would be less fun if it was R4 :>
Might be more fun, I think it's true to say your inf would be less fun if it was R4 :>
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Not true, I dont have a corp and im not even bothed about joining one atm and I love the game more then DAoC within a few hours. They give you no basis to start from, one thing fixes that. your imagination, I made a plan, mine, get a merlin, mine, get bet set up for merlin, mine, get ammo, mine, cash for safe keeping, now Im a bounty hunter kicking ass acorss space.
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OMG !!! That means Lamus is a Caldari
/em Thinks long and hard...
/em Starts looking to emigrate
Merlin is a kick-ass evil mf of a frigate though, just a bugger they held it back in Beta 7 too long for me to play before I got my Osprey.
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old.m0000
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tried some stuff again, i just don't see what's so exciting about it - sorry. again this is just IMO - but to take me away from daoc i'd need to be like 'wow' , atm eve = 'kay...'
btw I can't be the only one who played this game : http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/ev/
like i said eve is a TOTAL RIP of this game's idea (not that im saying its bad)
this game owned, one of the best 'classic' retro single player games imo, don't think there's a PC version though
/em breaks out his old mac classic to play again
btw I can't be the only one who played this game : http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/ev/
like i said eve is a TOTAL RIP of this game's idea (not that im saying its bad)
this game owned, one of the best 'classic' retro single player games imo, don't think there's a PC version though
/em breaks out his old mac classic to play again
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Karam_gruul
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Originally posted by old.m0000
tried some stuff again, i just don't see what's so exciting about it - sorry. again this is just IMO - but to take me away from daoc i'd need to be like 'wow' , atm eve = 'kay...'
btw I can't be the only one who played this game : http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/ev/
like i said eve is a TOTAL RIP of this game's idea (not that im saying its bad)
this game owned, one of the best 'classic' retro single player games imo, don't think there's a PC version though
/em breaks out his old mac classic to play again
wrong
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old.LandShark
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Do I really need to go into the singleplayer vs multiplayer/persistent-world multiplayer thing again, m00?
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old.m0000
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eve is basicly, escape velocity in 3d, as a mmorpg.
it's that simple - there's a difference between fact and opinion, this is fact - you can't argue with fact.
But willing to give eve another chance I've just spent 2 hours on it - checked out market, said price was high for some mineral cant remember the name in some solar system, something like 4 isk per where i was and 16 isk per in this solar system far away. So i go any buy about 3000 of this mineral and set up the system where is expensive on my map as destination, 30 minutes later after much faffing around i get to where i wanna go (it was 8 jumps) and low and behold the price is now only 5isk per
gg, back to daoc.
ps: can't say i didn't try - eve is shit, that by the way is opinion.
it's that simple - there's a difference between fact and opinion, this is fact - you can't argue with fact.
But willing to give eve another chance I've just spent 2 hours on it - checked out market, said price was high for some mineral cant remember the name in some solar system, something like 4 isk per where i was and 16 isk per in this solar system far away. So i go any buy about 3000 of this mineral and set up the system where is expensive on my map as destination, 30 minutes later after much faffing around i get to where i wanna go (it was 8 jumps) and low and behold the price is now only 5isk per
gg, back to daoc.
ps: can't say i didn't try - eve is shit, that by the way is opinion.
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Driwen
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eve and ev are indeed closely related, but that can be said for some other game and daoc aswell. Every game that comes out now or atleast almost everyone has got a predecessor. Every real time strategy game can be said its a copy off dune or a game even before that.
Ev and eve are similar but also very different and it is NOT just a copy.
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old.m0000
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the problem is, ev was good - and i was hoping eve would be an 'online' ev - and it is kinda, except made crap.
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m.00 dont say a game is crap, just say you dont like it, just coz u dont like a game doesnt make it crap, imho eve is one of the best games i've played. if simple daoc style is ur thing, fair enough .... just dont call games crap.
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YOU HAVE PLAYED THE GAME A FEW DAYS. HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU HAVE MORE THAN A SHALLOW OPINION OF SUCH A "DEEP" GAME AS EVE?
FUCK
OFF.
id rather listen to killgorde or someone who has played the game more than few days.
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old.LandShark
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m00, eve IS ev in space, sorry but it just is. I've never had any problems using the supply and demand info and making a profit, even though I'd rather go out and fight pirates for position in belts with rare asteroids...
I mean, face it, you've given it two hours?? Two hours in DAoC you have maybe a lvl 6 or 7 with no money, no real abilities yet and a tiny tiny tiny portion of the world accessible to you because you will get your tiny, tattered AF2 cloth-wearing ass kicked back to Cotswold
I mean, face it, you've given it two hours?? Two hours in DAoC you have maybe a lvl 6 or 7 with no money, no real abilities yet and a tiny tiny tiny portion of the world accessible to you because you will get your tiny, tattered AF2 cloth-wearing ass kicked back to Cotswold
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I thought zerkers was uber!!! and they only got axes, anything above thjat would be way to overpowered and stupid
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Killgorde
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A reality check here...
Eve isn't for everyone, it isn't even for the majority. If it was then "Emain Zerg Nightly" would be a thing of the past and DaoC would be constant warring on all fronts. DaoC is like persistant counterstrike with kilts and elves once you level 50. Thats not knocking it - the ability to log in and get into the action within 10 minutes is not to be sneered at (especially after a hard day at work when your brain is addled), and is bloody good if mindless fun with no real longterm objective other than RR10.
Eve will only appeal to those who want something more out of a game than this, in terms of depth and variation (and I don't mean the scenery). It will also only appeal to those (combat-wise) who don't need to get their kicks from constant action (which rules out the majority of DaoC RvR's if the lure of Emain is anything to go by. I take you back to the Saturday 9pm relic raid on Excal in August - 3 weeks laying the foundation with countless incursions and bluffs just waiting for one 15 minute golden window of opportunity to strike at a time when it was thought impossible to bring it off. Ask the guys and girls involved in that raid whether anything has come close to it (other than maxing 50) for them in terms of a mutual shared experience and satisfaction. That defines what Eve is about - patience, co-operation, co-ordination and a knowledge that the medium to long term objectives realised will bring infinitely more satisfaction to those involved than a mass brawl every night in the bowl below AMG in Emain. Kinda like a night of passion rather than 15 minutes over the bonnet of car outside the pub
It isnt everyones cup of tea, but maybe the above will give you an insight into why it is mine. I don't subscribe to the "car bonnet" route to gratification.
Eve isn't for everyone, it isn't even for the majority. If it was then "Emain Zerg Nightly" would be a thing of the past and DaoC would be constant warring on all fronts. DaoC is like persistant counterstrike with kilts and elves once you level 50. Thats not knocking it - the ability to log in and get into the action within 10 minutes is not to be sneered at (especially after a hard day at work when your brain is addled), and is bloody good if mindless fun with no real longterm objective other than RR10.
Eve will only appeal to those who want something more out of a game than this, in terms of depth and variation (and I don't mean the scenery). It will also only appeal to those (combat-wise) who don't need to get their kicks from constant action (which rules out the majority of DaoC RvR's if the lure of Emain is anything to go by. I take you back to the Saturday 9pm relic raid on Excal in August - 3 weeks laying the foundation with countless incursions and bluffs just waiting for one 15 minute golden window of opportunity to strike at a time when it was thought impossible to bring it off. Ask the guys and girls involved in that raid whether anything has come close to it (other than maxing 50) for them in terms of a mutual shared experience and satisfaction. That defines what Eve is about - patience, co-operation, co-ordination and a knowledge that the medium to long term objectives realised will bring infinitely more satisfaction to those involved than a mass brawl every night in the bowl below AMG in Emain. Kinda like a night of passion rather than 15 minutes over the bonnet of car outside the pub
It isnt everyones cup of tea, but maybe the above will give you an insight into why it is mine. I don't subscribe to the "car bonnet" route to gratification.
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Katt, if you dont wanna read my posts dont read my threds and piss off u dumb fuck, stop flaming me so badly for no reason!
Its easy to tell if a game has depth or not even if I have played only a few days, I already know alot about it, I know its limits, you could tell the depth of DAoC by the time u hit L40ish, eve is just more apparent, and also Katt... even if it doesnt have any depth its MY FUCKING OPINION, this isnt a communist country, I can say what I think, its my god and law given right so JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THE NONE STOP FLAMES YOU FAGGOT!
IM FED UP WITH IT!!!!!!!
Its easy to tell if a game has depth or not even if I have played only a few days, I already know alot about it, I know its limits, you could tell the depth of DAoC by the time u hit L40ish, eve is just more apparent, and also Katt... even if it doesnt have any depth its MY FUCKING OPINION, this isnt a communist country, I can say what I think, its my god and law given right so JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THE NONE STOP FLAMES YOU FAGGOT!
IM FED UP WITH IT!!!!!!!
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old.LandShark
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Killgorde:
I'm basically enjoying it at the moment. I got my 2nd ship today, an imicus, with my first ship being a maulus. Really appreciating the upgraded imi's mining power and pirate-hunting in the maulus is great fun, even though I can't get any of my hard-earned ECM stuff to work atm. Blah. Here's hoping SSI knock themselves out and break all MMPORG precedents by having a comprehensive tutorial/manual.
With the size of the EVE universe, I can hardly imagine there being constant, non-stop emain-style action anywhere, but what I'm wondering is what cause there will be to fight other than two corps getting in contact and saying "Hey guys, want to go and blow hell out of each other?".... I haven't got a corp and I've been happy to discover more about the game myself instead of asking for help 24/7 in the chat channel. (Not that it's bad to ask other players for help, I just prefer finding out myself in a game with such a cinematic setting)
I mean, what are the EVE equivalents of relics or indeed keeps?
Oh, and I'm also curious about the police. Can you actually kill the police forces in 1.0sec systems if you turn up with a battleship? I'm longing for a game where being a pirate (or equivalent) in secure systems is possible, merely incredibly hard. As opposed to DAoC, where you absolutely cannot get through the border keeps, ever.
I'm basically enjoying it at the moment. I got my 2nd ship today, an imicus, with my first ship being a maulus. Really appreciating the upgraded imi's mining power and pirate-hunting in the maulus is great fun, even though I can't get any of my hard-earned ECM stuff to work atm. Blah. Here's hoping SSI knock themselves out and break all MMPORG precedents by having a comprehensive tutorial/manual.
With the size of the EVE universe, I can hardly imagine there being constant, non-stop emain-style action anywhere, but what I'm wondering is what cause there will be to fight other than two corps getting in contact and saying "Hey guys, want to go and blow hell out of each other?".... I haven't got a corp and I've been happy to discover more about the game myself instead of asking for help 24/7 in the chat channel. (Not that it's bad to ask other players for help, I just prefer finding out myself in a game with such a cinematic setting)
I mean, what are the EVE equivalents of relics or indeed keeps?
Oh, and I'm also curious about the police. Can you actually kill the police forces in 1.0sec systems if you turn up with a battleship? I'm longing for a game where being a pirate (or equivalent) in secure systems is possible, merely incredibly hard. As opposed to DAoC, where you absolutely cannot get through the border keeps, ever.
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corps can build space stations and ofcourse say they own that piece of space where the best asteroids are . Other than that i would have to play the game to answer you better and i dont
. Other than that i would have to play the game to answer you better and i dont