England Vs Portugal

[Thadius]

All the more reason to go out and get royally pissed up!

OMG, im agreeing with a mod!

I must be going insane!

 

[Kinag]

No, you are merely clueless as to what official rulings are on certain situations such as that which has been a big issue throughout the tournament and been let go.
Can only think of 1 occasion out of hundreds in this world cup where the ref actually turned around and booked the player insisting on the opponent getting a booking for something.

This has been a world cup of cheats and fakers. It has been one the worst ones I can actually remember in modern history of major tournaments for that. The game has developed badly lately but no surprise when you look at FIFA. So many dodgy dealings going on in that place and when you look at Blatter it just gets worse.

But how on earth do you know that he were insisting on him being booked?

You are watching the match from the TV I presume and when you do that you have the commentary's voices and what you see as your primary beliefs.

You didn't hear what he was saying, so how do you know he wasn't just asking for a free kick or something else?

I agree though, Portugal's behaviour is rather disgusting, but so are many of the posts in this thread.

And I'm not clueless as I never spoke about any of the judging being done in this match.

I know the referee's haven't been top notch this Championship, take Graham Poll as an example (or who was the referee again who gave the three yellow cards?).

 

[Eeben]

i was not hopeing for england to win tbh but after that fuckt up ref i startet to cheer for them.. Secound match a teams loses duo to bad ref think that ref has a vandetta vs england

the teams should be abel to get a challenge like in nfl that way the aussies would not have lost to that dive

 

[Platin]

Heroic game by England, too bad you got a retarded striker and a bad ref.

 

[[HB]Jpeg]

think that ref has a vandetta vs england

apprantly that ref had said in a newspaper or interview he gonna watch em like hawks cos they r a dirty team and also slated englands playstyle pre match alos saying they only play long balls.

 

[cHodAX]

Owen Hargreaves did me proud today

He was one of the 3 lions, along with Ferdinand and Gerrard, who ran every inch of that pitch

Are you on fucking drugs? That fat **** Gerrard never bothered to track back once after England had counter attacked and then lost the ball. He was absmyl, he missed a penalty, wasted a ton of possesion and the only thing he did of note was get in behind the back four on two occasions and then failed to deliver a cross. Lampard was dogshit as well, another 4 shots off target from him but at least he ran to help out when we lost the ball after a counter attack. The only ones I feel sorry for are Hargreaves, Terry, Ferdinand and Carragher. The first 3 played like lions and poor Carragher ends up carrying the can for a game where he barely got a kick.

Rooney deserved a red card end of story, he got frustrated and he stood on his the guys bollocks, accident or not that is a red card. I am a massive Rooney fan (United too) I honestly don't believe it was an accident after looking at the slow-mo replay and the look on Rooney's face, he chanced his arm and got caught. Fair play to the ref, he had a good game and let it flow as much as any game can with all those divers in the Portugal side.

End of the day we went out because we always lose our bottle when it comes to penalities, no one is more gutted about it than me but the sad fact is that England can play like lions with 10 men for nearly an hour but the spot kicks come and our so called 'big-time' players let us down time and time again.

 

[Eeben]

apprantly that ref had said in a newspaper or interview he gonna watch em like hawks cos they r a dirty team and also slated englands playstyle pre match alos saying they only play long balls.

an he still gets to be the ref that fucking sucks..


Other thing that could be cool is if fifa would watch the match after an if someone acts against hte spirit of the game or wtf its called they would take actions vs that an maybe the player would miss a match or 2 that would make ppl stop diveing all the time, its sad watching grown up men crying like littel school girls every time someone try an get the ball from them

 

[Ctuchik]

Don't know what's worse, the shit team called England composed of exceptional players or all the faggots here being bad losers and blaming the ref or even Ronaldo.

You can be happy that England got so far.

did u even see that game? what Rooney did was fking idiotic, and considering how important he is for England even MORE idiotic.

imo hes more to blame then anyone else today.

 

[Kinag]

apprantly that ref had said in a newspaper or interview he gonna watch em like hawks cos they r a dirty team and also slated englands playstyle pre match alos saying they only play long balls.

Whoa, he should get fired then.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

They didnt play well but that doesnt mean someone should get sent off for such a crappy reason, at least not when the ref originally decided that the free kick was enough. This is where it is clear that you have a total lack of understanding about the game (and some of its rules)

If you play enough football at a highly competitive level you begin to be able to read the referee easily. Most of them have tells as to what will do next after giving a free kick. This referee clearly had shown no further action till other players went and got involved.

Heres a tip back to you. Study some matches and watch the referee (portugal vs holland isnt a good one though ). Over the course of the game you will clearly see the different reactions between a free kick, a yellow card and a red card. They almost always act in the same way for each.

I don't care about other refs in other games. If you fail to see in a slow motion that he stomped on his balls on purpose then you need to watch closer and slower. The ref did a very good job. If you are such an expert on rules, why don't you apply for his position? Oh wait, being biased and getting personal on me because I called England a bad team (on which you agree) and called people acting in a very personal and digusting way against Ronaldo and the ref faggots, wouldn't allow you to be a ref anyway...

0 : 0 at the end of the game, it's lottery then. England never was good on penalties, should have trained more. Even with 10 men for ~60 minutes they looked good and kept coming and I thought they would do it, but if they needed the 11th man to win in penalty shoot-out, he should have played fair.

 

[cHodAX]

I don't care about other refs in other games. If you fail to see in a slow motion that he stomped on his balls on purpose then you need to watch closer and slower. The ref did a very good job. If you are such an expert on rules, why don't you apply for his position? Oh wait, being biased and getting personal on me because I called England a bad team (on which you agree) and called people acting in a very personal and digusting way against Ronaldo and the ref faggots, wouldn't allow you to be a ref anyway...

0 : 0 at the end of the game, it's lottery then. England never was good on penalties, should have trained more. Even with 10 men for ~60 minutes they looked good and kept coming and I thought they would do it, but if they needed the 11th man to win in penalty shoot-out, he should have played fair.

+rep for you

 

[- English -]

hargreaves 4 captain!!

 

[Rst]

On the bright side England now get rid of the worst coach ever, he looked at times on that bench not to have a clue what he was going to do next.

Poor match, poor ref, piss poor coach.

 

[cHodAX]

On the bright side England now get rid of the worst coach ever, he looked at times on that bench not to have a clue what he was going to do next.

Poor match, poor ref, piss poor coach.

2 out of 3 aint bad, the ref did nowt wrong though.

 

[polza]

Are you on fucking drugs? That fat **** Gerrard never bothered to track back once after England had counter attacked and then lost the ball. He was absmyl, he missed a penalty, wasted a ton of possesion and the only thing he did of note was get in behind the back four on two occasions and then failed to deliver a cross. Lampard was dogshit as well, another 4 shots off target from him but at least he ran to help out when we lost the ball after a counter attack. The only ones I feel sorry for are Hargreaves, Terry, Ferdinand and Carragher. The first 3 played like lions and poor Carragher ends up carrying the can for a game where he barely got a kick.

Rooney deserved a red card end of story, he got frustrated and he stood on his the guys bollocks, accident or not that is a red card. I am a massive Rooney fan (United too) I honestly don't believe it was an accident after looking at the slow-mo replay and the look on Rooney's face, he chanced his arm and got caught. Fair play to the ref, he had a good game and let it flow as much as any game can with all those divers in the Portugal side.

End of the day we went out because we always lose our bottle when it comes to penalities, no one is more gutted about it than me but the sad fact is that England can play like lions with 10 men for nearly an hour but the spot kicks come and our so called 'big-time' players let us down time and time again.

hmm u werent actually watching the game, yes carragher played like an absolutle lion those 2 mins was heroic, so if say a guy jumps under ur foot bfore u step and you step on him complety accidental its a red card is it?

well done players 11 players we where in charge, Rooney went for 10vs 11 in 30C heat and they ran till they coudent run anymore and created the better chances cnt ask for anymore tbh, and the guy saying it dnt matter how far they have run when taking penalties, im guessing has never left his computer, mby he should try running for 2 hours in that heat, legs would be killing you then trying to take a decent penatly.

Rooneys red card still dnt get why carvalho failed rooney, sliding in under Rooney and ohw he puts foot down Pourtugees player is now beneath his foot, how ref saw that i dno as he was behind carvalho. never ever heard of red card for bad language and the push on ronaldo if red card is given for that most games would be abandoned due to lack of players and german and argie players should also all have 1 match suspension (pretty sure punished a normal if still on feild of play even after play has stoped mby im wrong)

I dont get how any1 can support the diving from Portugal its rediculous 1 occasion ino its ronald again but his diving on the floor before defender has reached him, i thought after 1st 1/2 ref got better in genral of spoting there diving but the sending of dnt c y. btw i was watching in pub so coudent hear sound before penalties but y was carragher made to retake his?

Also well done to fans tbh when Pub did go queit and you could hear TV all you could hear was the England fans even with 10 men great support, 1 peice of luck in 1966 and weve been paying for it ever since.

ohw and something has to be done about the diving fifa should look at tapes and give 1 man suspension to players for diving only way 2 stop this game and teams like Portugal, italy, argies, holland ruining the game with there cheating, personally i cnt see how you oculd live being such a complete tart and the embarrasment of just falling on floor just infront of the hole world.

p.s just wish James (near retirement) had gone and smacked Ronaldo one woudent have mind loosing then give him a reason to cry ffs

 

[~Latency~]

Very dissapointing, was an entertaining game!

Lampard was SO bad, worst tornament i've ever seen for a player, he's had the most shots of anyone in the tornament but didn't score once? Poor !

Portugal were diving quite a lot, don't expect more from a scumbag country so what can you do! The red card for rooney can be argued over but the ref didn't go for a red card or even yellow initially only showed that it's a freekick ? and then ronaldo RAN over like the looser he is to protest card, which is pathetic and what can you do, rooney reacted and got a red (harsh for a push which was deserved) :d

Don't see rooney and ronaldo playing well together again after that fiasco ;d

Too many players underperformed, if we won this game we would've lost the next to the teams playing WELL - after every game beckham or someone said "we didn't play as well as we'd of liked but we got the result" and after 4 games they NEVER IMPROVED so we should be pleased we got to that stage ;]

(a big FU to the dumbasses who gloat over england loosing - bitter about your looser country going out earlier in the compertition or just loosers?

 

[Bugz]

Tbh, we deserved to lose.

Watch France vs Brazil then think of the England vs Portugal match.

We won't win the world cup as we play at the mo.

However, I did watch the game in the Pub and the atmosphere was great

 

[Kinag]

Very dissapointing, was an entertaining game!

Lampard was SO bad, worst tornament i've ever seen for a player, he's had the most shots of anyone in the tornament but didn't score once? Poor !

Portugal were diving quite a lot, don't expect more from a scumbag country so what can you do! The red card for rooney can be argued over but the ref didn't go for a red card or even yellow initially only showed that it's a freekick ? and then ronaldo RAN over like the looser he is to protest card, which is pathetic and what can you do, rooney reacted and got a red (harsh for a push which was deserved) :d

Don't see rooney and ronaldo playing well together again after that fiasco ;d

Too many players underperformed, if we won this game we would've lost the next to the teams playing WELL - after every game beckham or someone said "we didn't play as well as we'd of liked but we got the result" and after 4 games they NEVER IMPROVED so we should be pleased we got to that stage ;]

(a big FU to the dumbasses who gloat over england loosing - bitter about your looser country going out earlier in the compertition or just loosers?

I'm not gloating over England losing.

My country didn't even make it to the WC

 

[Corran]

I don't care about other refs in other games. If you fail to see in a slow motion that he stomped on his balls on purpose then you need to watch closer and slower. The ref did a very good job. If you are such an expert on rules, why don't you apply for his position? Oh wait, being biased and getting personal on me because I called England a bad team (on which you agree) and called people acting in a very personal and digusting way against Ronaldo and the ref faggots, wouldn't allow you to be a ref anyway...

0 : 0 at the end of the game, it's lottery then. England never was good on penalties, should have trained more. Even with 10 men for ~60 minutes they looked good and kept coming and I thought they would do it, but if they needed the 11th man to win in penalty shoot-out, he should have played fair.

Up to date on the rules, but due to injuries sustained from actually playing the game up to a decent level means I havent got the fitness or ability to do a referee job.

And i have not got personal against the ref or ronaldo. Ronaldo clearly went up to the ref to influence him (note: freekick given. Ref had blown whistle and signled for direct freekick for about 8seconds before Ronaldo got there). The only person that refered to anyone as faggots is you. Personally that makes you a joke for using it as an insult anyways. Want me to get personal on you? No point because you do act like an idiot and many many people would call you on it. Now Ronaldo deserves abuse for the way he reacted, but so do alot of players in this world cup, not personal to him. Would react the same way to half of portugal, most of holland (haha Robben), italy etc etc

The ref made many bad calls, he shouldnt been in charge in first place due to bias which is FIFA's fault, england played badly which is there fault, england lacked the depth and tactics which was sven's fault, and portugal were just their usual cheating self and allowed to get on with it which is theirs and the refs fault for allowing it.

Simple fact is that the challange on Rooney shouldnt even had come in because he had already been failled and the ref didnt stop play and left Rooney stumbling along, and even if it was on purpose, please tell me how a referee who has no line of sight of the incident able to make a call? Remember they dont get benefit of replays. And why did he wait till he had spoke to portugal players to make a decision? not like they will be unbiased in what they say to him.

Edit: Btw, my attachment to country wouldnt stop me being a ref at top level. You dont get to referee in a match your national team is in. Just so you know. Want to know how much of an issue something such as this is? Well the Announcer at the German match has been taken away from his position even though he done it for years. Because he said over the system "Come on Germans, your national team needs your support" and it showed bias, so no chance of a ref getting to do their own country match

 

[Hawkwind]

I don't care about other refs in other games. If you fail to see in a slow motion that he stomped on his balls on purpose then you need to watch closer and slower. The ref did a very good job.

Suggest you watch it again Rooney did not stamp on him, he looked like he lost balance and steped back. Have watched it several times and in slo mo. Rooney was fouled twice leading up to that in the space of 5 secs. Also, the ref did not even reach for his pocket until that diving cheating scumbag Ronaldo was pushed in the chest by Rooney.

I have never, until tonight wished harm on any football player, that I can remember, but i truelyhope Ronaldo gets his legs broken early next season. He will be the most hated jeered player in the Premiership. Will be interesting if Rooney can even play with the guy after that. Certainly the English Press will have a field day with the him and deservidly (exc sp?- pissed) so.

Drunk and sad but its how I feel. Football lost tonight, not just England. A bunch of diving tossers showed how the game is to be won.

England should have taken their chances and Joe Cole/Lampard should have done better. But then playing in a World Cup without a class striker is poor. Rooney is good but no out an out striker. We desperately need an English Henry.

I for one will be chearing any side play Portugal even if its France.

 

[Kinag]

We desperately need an English Henry.

You have an English Henry, his name is Theo Walcott!

Just wait, in a couple of years he'll be the best striker in England

/wishes

 

[Hawkwind]

You have an English Henry, his name is Theo Walcott!

Just wait, in a couple of years he'll be the best striker in England

/wishes

I know he's good seen him play. He quick, seriously quick and I truely hope he gives us what we so deperately need for England. I'm sure under Henry at Arsenal he's got the best teacher around right now.

 

[Corran]

You have an English Henry, his name is Theo Walcott!

Just wait, in a couple of years he'll be the best striker in England

/wishes

Thing is, he shouldnt have been at the world cup and that was our downfall. No disrespect to him as a player as he aint bad, he just isnt international player yet as not got any high level experience. After christmas it possible he can challange for Owens position. Stupid decisions by Sven....

After Owen injury we could have had a good lineup still if he made the right decision and took defoe who is perfect replacement for owen. And to be quite honest the team should have been left with the 4-4-2 formation and something like :

Edit: Shitty layout but it removes all large spaces so had to put the --- in show the 4-4-2 formation with Rooney just slightly behind his partner


-----------------------------------Robinson

Neville/Hargreaves---------Ferdinand -------- Terry----------- A.Cole



Lennon ---- Beckham(Hargreaves/Carrick)-------- Gerard(Lampard) ------- J.Cole


--------------------------Rooney
--------------------------------------------- Crouch (Defoe better if he was there)




In my mind thats what it should have been all along after losing owen.

Lennon gave lots of width and was performing well.

Rooney would been in his prefered roll, not as frustrated and so less chance of him reacting stupidly to something

Lampard was poor so should have been dropped,

Beckham was a bit better then Lampard and plays inside right pretty well and he get more of the ball to make telling passes.

Could say more, but calmed down a bit now and think i go to bed and not dwell on todays disappointment. One thing for sure, England will come into Euro 2008 with a reformed side. Better team coach in my opinion (though will see how he does internationally) and will have more experience on the younger players such as Lennon and Wilcott which can only be a good thing

 

[Yeke]

Only one person to blame imo and thats sven, so many poor decisions, rooney should never have been playing that role at all, he hasn't the temprement or the atributes to play it, not making any changes at half time I know a lot of people bigging up hargreves here and he did very well but imo he never made himself avalable for a pass when england had it at the back forcing us to play long making it even more frustraiting for rooney in the process.

The red card I think was harsh, disagree with me all you like it's my opinion and wont change incedently I belive it was for the push but we will know for sure when the report comes out.

This defeat is made all the worse for losing to such a poor team and looking at all the other teams left you would have to say if we were performing well you would be very confident of winning vs any of them.

Penaltys : will we ever win a shoot out :< I'd rather they were replaced by players armwrestling tbh

 

[Kinag]

I think Sven wanted Walcott to shine as it was his last WC for England.

He wanted Walcott to be something to put him in the spotlight, for discovering him ofc.

Walcott was a bad choice this year, I agree, but in a couple of years I'm sure he'll be excellent.

Defoe should be in the team this year.

 

[warkrusher]

This defeat is made all the worse for losing to such a poor team and looking at all the other teams left you would have to say if we were performing well you would be very confident of winning vs any of them.



ROFL 2004 and 2006 now.. serious u lost just acept it.. lols, kinda funny to c so much stupid coments....

Portugal now faces france and lets c how it goes :>

 

[Aile]

Hargreaves excelled himself today, englands best player by FAR

 

[Everz]

This defeat is made all the worse for losing to such a poor team and looking at all the other teams left you would have to say if we were performing well you would be very confident of winning vs any of them.



ROFL 2004 and 2006 now.. serious u lost just acept it.. lols, kinda funny to c so much stupid coments....

Portugal now faces france and lets c how it goes :>

hope you diving tards get owned

 

[Dillinja]

granted some folks have made comments that could be defined as being a sore loser but what i find equally as sad are those that are poor winners. this can be seen in the bye bye england thread where folks that arent even from the winning side (some their team already went out and some werent in it all) feel the need to rub salt in the wounds and make jeering comments about england going out of the cup.takes quite a pathetic example of a human being as there is nothing lower then taking joy from the misery of others tbh.

England doesn't have a friend in the world, well maybe we have 1 or 2. As far as I know, there are 2 countries on this planet that like England. They are the USA and Canada. All we need to do is move our island thousands of miles west and nuke scotland and we will be fine.

Anyway, everyone hates England because we were once the greatest nation on the earth, less than a hundred years ago we controlled more land than any empire in the history of the planet, and that is something that their countries can never hope to achieve. It's exactly the same reason people dislike America. Everyone hates the top dog, even after the dog has fallen from grace.

Oh yeah and I'm not British or a "Brit". I'm English and always will be English. The union is a farce.

:england:

 

[Kinag]

England doesn't have a friend in the world, well maybe we have 1 or 2. As far as I know, there are 2 countries on this planet that like England. They are the USA and Canada. All we need to do is move our island thousands of miles west and nuke scotland and we will be fine.

Anyway, everyone hates England because we were once the greatest nation on the earth, less than a hundred years ago we controlled more land than any empire in the history of the planet, and that is something that their countries can never hope to achieve. It's exactly the same reason people dislike America. Everyone hates the top dog, even after the dog has fallen from grace.

Oh yeah and I'm not British or a "Brit". I'm English and always will be English. The union is a farce.

:england:

Yes, I'm sure that's it.

England is the greatest nation in the world and people is envious of you.

I got nothing against England or the brits but such a post like that is not needed as I'm quite sure people don't really care of England's position back in the eighteen hundreds

I love England though and I hope to continue my studies there in two years.