England Vs Portugal

[xxManiacxx]

Lol England played pretty crap. Rooney can´t control his temper so he says fucking stupid things and push a player and get the red card. Rooney is the only one to blame there.

And the penalties. Omg please even kid football could do better penalties then England.

 

[Watchh]

Anyway, everyone hates England because we were once the greatest nation on the earth, less than a hundred years ago we controlled more land than any empire in the history of the planet
:england:

think you might wanna check your history books again there ..... lol you think england was the greatest nation with most lands ever in history ... in the 1910's ? .... random colonies here & there , don't make u owner of every bit of land around it

 

[Hawkwind]

Don't know what's worse, the shit team called England composed of exceptional players or all the faggots here being bad losers and blaming the ref or even Ronaldo.

You can be happy that England got so far.

Such hate and contempt for people being honest about their feelings. It was a very emotional game for a lot of people. So that makes us all faggots does it? Honestly, if you said this to my face you'd be in hospital right now! But hey, this is the internet where you can hide behind a mask of invulnrability.

You honestly feel Ronaldo was beyond reproach? He played a big part in getting Roo sent off. The wink to his bench shows he knew exactly what he was doing. Rooney was a dumbass for allowing his temper to get the better of him.

One thing in sport I cannot abide is cheats and Portugal showed they will go to any lengths to win. Why the referee did not card any for the dives is beyond belief. FIFA stated they were going to clamp down on this but the ref showed otherwise.

To all the England fans, chin up Euro's comming up and Sven's finally gone. Hopefully Becks to. England played well, especially at the back. There is hope of better things to come.

 

[Hawkwind]

think you might wanna check your history books again there ..... lol you think england was the greatest nation with most lands ever in history ... in the 1910's ? .... random colonies here & there , don't make u owner of every bit of land around it

You should check your history books again! Fact, it was the biggest empire the world has ever seen. I wouldn't call Malay, India and half of Africa small bits of land dotted around. Fact, The Commenwealth is still the second biggest trading organisation in the world, second only to the EU.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Very dissapointing, was an entertaining game!

Lampard was SO bad, worst tornament i've ever seen for a player, he's had the most shots of anyone in the tornament but didn't score once? Poor !

Portugal were diving quite a lot, don't expect more from a scumbag country so what can you do! The red card for rooney can be argued over but the ref didn't go for a red card or even yellow initially only showed that it's a freekick ? and then ronaldo RAN over like the looser he is to protest card, which is pathetic and what can you do, rooney reacted and got a red (harsh for a push which was deserved) :d

Don't see rooney and ronaldo playing well together again after that fiasco ;d

Too many players underperformed, if we won this game we would've lost the next to the teams playing WELL - after every game beckham or someone said "we didn't play as well as we'd of liked but we got the result" and after 4 games they NEVER IMPROVED so we should be pleased we got to that stage ;]

(a big FU to the dumbasses who gloat over england loosing - bitter about your looser country going out earlier in the compertition or just loosers?

Well first of all i dont admit you call my country a country of scumbags... second you should look at yourselfs and see where your mistakes happened instead of always blaming the others.

If we were to beleive all the english fans and press says about the national team, england would have been world champion at least 6 times and european champion another half a dozen at least, you always fail because of the referee or because this guy was an arsehole and did this or did that.

FACTS:

Mr. Ericson got 4 strikers 2 of witch were not match fit and the other 2 he obviously doesnt trust as Walcott didnt play a single minute and Crouch was brought on when there was no alternative.
Another fact, England has been playing on 4-4-2 for decades, Mr. Ericsson changes the tactic in the middle of the tournament and puts the team playing in a 4-2-3-1 they are not used to it and it was clear they were not confortable with.
Third fact England has alot of very good players, and one of the best championships in Europe, true, but is also one of the longest and if you put together Premiership, Champions League, FA Cup, CArling etc you have at least 70 or 80 matches for some players, im not saying the others dont have, but playing under intense heat and extreme circumstances the team will not preform perfectly never... very few if any of the teams in this world cup so far have preformed to the level of expectation, Portugal one of those also. Sure just look at Brasil.

Now dont treat portugal as a small lucky bunch of skilless players that only know how to dive.
In the portuguese squad out of the 23 at least 6 play in the premiership, other 2 played in the premiership also last year in top clubs like Man Utd, Chelsea etc, We have players playing in all the top european Leagues and lets not forget the underdogs Benfica... eliminated FAIR AND SQUARE your Man Utd and Liverpool and trashed them both. so you are not that much better than us as you think you are.

Your disapointment and frustration is only this big because you fail to look into yourselfs and seek the mistakes, that's why you dont win anything since 1966 and you wont ever again until you stop thinking you are the top notch, because you aren't, certainly you have enough quality in the team to maybe one day be, but there is always too much going on around england's team for you to be a serious contender. Baden Baden was a circus of media, its the players its the wifes its the dogs... you are constantly exposed you cant preform.

Regarding Rooney, Rooney was sent off for steping INTENTIONALLY as you can clearly see from the replays (and was admited by Mr. Ericsson) on Carvalho, if you see nothing wrong with steping over an oponent's groins i can tell you i do... and he was well sent off, if you can't see that is either because you are blind or you dont want to see, then again if you dont want to see you will never see it as a mistake.

Now i tell you what you have...

England has lots of stars, celebrities that are paid enourmous sums of money to play football, on the other hand we surelly are a small country and we cant aford to pay the insane amounts of money you can to your top players, but we surelly have a team, while you are more interested in knowing how many times a day does Mr. Beckam jumps on Mrs. Posh.

Going back to the start, if we are scumbags, please stop coming over filling our beaches on the summer we appreciate it, makes Portugal a safer and cleaner environment.

Thanks


PS: ohhhh, and btw SAFE TRIP HOME !!!!

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Such hate and contempt for people being honest about their feelings. It was a very emotional game for a lot of people. So that makes us all faggots does it? Honestly, if you said this to my face you'd be in hospital right now! But hey, this is the internet where you can hide behind a mask of invulnrability.

You honestly feel Ronaldo was beyond reproach? He played a big part in getting Roo sent off. The wink to his bench shows he knew exactly what he was doing. Rooney was a dumbass for allowing his temper to get the better of him.

One thing in sport I cannot abide is cheats and Portugal showed they will go to any lengths to win. Why the referee did not card any for the dives is beyond belief. FIFA stated they were going to clamp down on this but the ref showed otherwise.

To all the England fans, chin up Euro's comming up and Sven's finally gone. Hopefully Becks to. England played well, especially at the back. There is hope of better things to come.

You havent got your facts right, FIFA instructed all referres to ONLY book a player for diving if THEY WERE ABSOLUTELLY SURE it was a dive and not the other way around. Stop blaming the dives, how many times did portugal got the benefit of a dive in this game, that i remember not a single one. So the only bad thing is for the stupid diver that could probably have passed the ball and created some danger and in that way he gave it away.
There was no diving in the box and if i recall there was only 1 or 2 instances where we seen a dive in this particular match, so please you lost look into why you lost in your own team. England doesnt win a penalty shootout in 10 years... something must be terrebly wrong no? With this kind of thing of trying to find reasons outside the team you will never find the mistakes responsible for your defeats and makes everything easier for your opponents.

come on everyone was thinking already in England that it was going to be an easy win because Deco and Costinha were out and Ronaldo was only on 50% if so... dont underestimate that's always the biggest mistake.

Hafe fun

 

[Ilur-OOM]

hard to play against 12 players... yet again portugal showed that thye r nothing more than a dirty tactless team who have no class.. the england team showed true brit grit.... cheated yet again.... time for a 5th official.....

i bet this 5th one has to be english!

Portugal is crap... fine.. lets look back

Portugal V England (Euro 2000) Portugal won 3-2 (and totally owned England)
Portugal V England (Euro 2004) Portugal won on Penalties (1 st lesson)
Portugal V England (WC 2006) Portugal won on Penalties (and you were all sleeping during the first lesson)

so... if in the last 6 years we always won... and we are so crappy where does this leave England then?

 

[Thorwyn]

Now dont treat portugal as a small lucky bunch of skilless players that only know how to dive.

I don´t think anyone says Portugal is skilless. Just the fact that they ARE diving.. and they´re diving a lot makes me want to puke. Living legends like Figo resorting to headbutts and provoking a red against a yellowed opponent. Ronaldo playing the dying swan and being on his legs again after a few seconds (but crying like a kid when he´s seriously bruised). Fairplay doesn´t seem to be a word that´s worth anything in POR. And that´s a disgrace for the sport.

Just my 5c

 

[Dorimor1]

Ilur, I'm not English and I have to say portugal played disgracefully yesturday. On about 6 occasions I saw them dive. Not even against 10 men and the ref being clueless could they break down England. When it came to penalties I knew the english would loose but thats football.

Lets hope france knock them out, teams like this (given their previous displays) don't deserve to go this far. I am sure most people (apart from the portguese ofc) will agree.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Ilur, I'm not English and I have to say portugal played disgracefully yesturday. On about 6 occasions I saw them dive. Not even against 10 men and the ref being clueless could they break down England. When it came to penalties I knew the english would loose but thats football.

Lets hope france knock them out, teams like this (given their previous displays) don't deserve to go this far. I am sure most people (apart from the portguese ofc) will agree.

I totally agree with you and i have told that to everyone portugal didnt play anything close to their potential all through this world cup... i dont even argue about that, but coming here trashing the oponents and trying to find some sort of extra terrestrial reason for the defeat isnt gonna sort englands problem anywhere.

You also have to agree that Italy havent preformed nothing special, England hasnt prefformed anything close also, Brasil ffs the favourited havent preformed at all anything close to what they could and should have done, and they were all there, Has Greece preformed in the Euro 2004 to be champion? they didnt but they are European Champions and more and more teams see that and are putting more and more effort in the defensive side of the game, it's certainly not beautifull but this is the football we have at this moment.

Now i'm confident and i surelly hope Portugal will preform to the levels they can and we can surelly have a nice match against France, and i hope the best team wins... but Portugal's team is second to none when they preform well.

 

[Bugz]

Was a fair sided game.

England suck at penalties and we knew that and we lost because of it.

Times like these make me disgraced to be english, when stupid people on a forum can't handle a defeat.

 

[xxManiacxx]

I see ppl dive in every game and every country does it.

It´s like ppl whining about this or that realm is zerging/adding tbh. everyone does it. Even the english.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

I don´t think anyone says Portugal is skilless. Just the fact that they ARE diving.. and they´re diving a lot makes me want to puke. Living legends like Figo resorting to headbutts and provoking a red against a yellowed opponent. Ronaldo playing the dying swan and being on his legs again after a few seconds (but crying like a kid when he´s seriously bruised). Fairplay doesn´t seem to be a word that´s worth anything in POR. And that´s a disgrace for the sport.

Just my 5c

are you trying to say that figo wasnt pushed on the face on the netherlands game? come on... that game was not a game was a fucking mess...

FYI Portugal comited 10 faults in that game we were shown 9 yellow cards and 2 reds... do you think this is fair? that referee was just a shame...

im not saying that Deco and Costinha shouldnt have been sent off and more i say Deco should have been shown a straight red after the tackle he did that only gave him a yellow card, but also the tackle that injured Ronaldo should have been punished with a red card.
That was a bloody joke of a match that only benefited the English and the teams facing (the winner) from then onwards.
Thats why FIFA sent that guy home... i think it wasnt seen as a very good preformance.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

I see ppl dive in every game and every country does it.

It´s like ppl whining about this or that realm is zerging/adding tbh. everyone does it. Even the english.

agree

if everyone was booked for diving everywhere in the field we would finish some games with 5 against 5 i'm afraid... 1st half outdoor with 11 and 2nd half we better go indoors as we only have 5 left...
alot worst than Portugal was the Netherlands.. Arjen Robben would be sent off at least 5 times on every game, and he plays in the premiership and you love him etc etc..

 

[Dorimor1]

I totally agree with you and i have told that to everyone portugal didnt play anything close to their potential all through this world cup... i dont even argue about that, but coming here trashing the oponents and trying to find some sort of extra terrestrial reason for the defeat isnt gonna sort englands problem anywhere.

You also have to agree that Italy havent preformed nothing special, England hasnt prefformed anything close also, Brasil ffs the favourited havent preformed at all anything close to what they could and should have done, and they were all there, Has Greece preformed in the Euro 2004 to be champion? they didnt but they are European Champions and more and more teams see that and are putting more and more effort in the defensive side of the game, it's certainly not beautifull but this is the football we have at this moment.

Now i'm confident and i surelly hope Portugal will preform to the levels they can and we can surelly have a nice match against France, and i hope the best team wins... but Portugal's team is second to none when they preform well.

Well you are true there.

Portugal are a much better team than what they showed. Lets hope they play to their full potential and we should see some great football

I am greek myself and I thought we deserved to win Euro 2004, as you describe, we didn't play the pretty game but it worked.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Was a fair sided game.

England suck at penalties and we knew that and we lost because of it.

Times like these make me disgraced to be english, when stupid people on a forum can't handle a defeat.

In every rule there is an exception... you are lucky enough to be that exception.
Unfortunatly on a poor game only one team could go ahead, this time was us, i'm sure you will have your time, to people like you i just wish all the best and hope to see you soon on a big tournament!

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Well you are true there.

Portugal are a much better team than what they showed. Lets hope they play to their full potential and we should see some great football

I am greek myself and I thought we deserved to win Euro 2004, as you describe, we didn't play the pretty game but it worked.

Exactly football these days is more than fancy tricks and eye catching plays, unfortunatly for the spectacle is all about how effective you are, on the pitch, on the goal, on the penalty spot doesnt matter all that counts is the victories.. and this was actually the english speach all over the world cup, was only changed today on the defeat... all come to say that we are guilty of not playing a eye catching football... sure when did england played one?

 

[Bracken]

Rooney was sent off for steping INTENTIONALLY as you can clearly see from the replays

Let's get this straight.

1.If the referee gives a freekick when Rooney is sandwiched and fouled by 2 Portuguese the incident doesn't happen. Why doesn't he give the foul on Rooney? Because all night he was biased against England. It is no coincidence that many people sat there before the game even started and said that being an Argentinian ref he would send off an Englishman.

2. Before Ronaldo runs over there is no move by the ref to go for a card. After Ronaldo gets in his face and all the other Portugese wade in he then decides to send Rooney off. This is then followed by Ronaldo winking at the bench.

So yes, we all know that Rooney wasn't smart (though lets face it, it was hardly a stamp - Carvalho made the most of it). But the bottom line is that as so often in this World Cup the behaviour of the Portuguese players was a disgrace and the referee was at best incompetent, at worst a cheating Argentinian b*stard.

One thing I do agree with you on is that the Portuguese people are generally decent friendly people. They are very hospitable and welcoming and did a fine job in Euro 2004. It's just their football team that are cheating scum.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Let's get this straight.

1.If the referee gives a freekick when Rooney is sandwiched and fouled by 2 Portuguese the incident doesn't happen. Why doesn't he give the foul on Rooney? Because all night he was biased against England. It is no coincidence that many people sat there before the game even started and said that being an Argentinian ref he would send off an Englishman.

2. Before Ronaldo runs over there is no move by the ref to go for a card. After Ronaldo gets in his face and all the other Portugese wade in he then decides to send Rooney off. This is then followed by Ronaldo winking at the bench.

So yes, we all know that Rooney wasn't smart (though lets face it, it was hardly a stamp - Carvalho made the most of it). But the bottom line is that as so often in this World Cup the behaviour of the Portuguese players was a disgrace and the referee was at best incompetent, at worst a cheating Argentinian b*stard.

One thing I do agree with you on is that the Portuguese people are generally decent friendly people. They are very hospitable and welcoming and did a fine job in Euro 2004. It's just their football team that are cheating scum.

On your first point there is no tackle on rooney on the first place that is a foul that's why it isnt given, i dont know where you seen the match and if you are a men or not but i can tell you from experience even a small push on that area hurts like fecking hell, so yes rooney intentionally stepped on carvalho's balls and yes he deserved to be sent off... even your manager said that. Now the thing in question is why didnt the referee showed him the red card straight away... we are assuming that he wasnt going to send him off but in case you havent noticed referees are using comunication devices in this world cup and he could have been listening or talking to one of the assistents to get a clearer picture of the situation and then rooney pushes ronaldo away and that triggers the action...
sure you know as much as i do as if it was for the step over on carvalho or if it was the push on ronaldo, the fact is he deserved to be sent off, he has a bad temper and everyone knows that, the portuguese (ronaldo) that knows him very well exploited that, fair enough, but nobody put a gun to his head for him to push ronaldo or to step on carvalhos balls, he is a professional and very well paid player that should know better and refrain himself from this kind of behaviour... same words i say for rooney now i said for costinha and deco on the game against the netherlands.

Point is neither you or me know or will ever know what triggered the red card, i honestly dont beleive it was the push on ronaldo, that itself and alone should be at most a yellow card, but i'm afraid that only the referee's report will say something about this and this is never made public.
Now if you have reasons to dislike this referee what should we say about 10 fould comited and 9 yellow cards and 2 reds on the game before? come on stop blaming the weakest link or everyone else for all the mistakes. England is out of the world cup becaused they missed 3 penalties... those guys are paid millions every year and still miss 3 penalties... and this isnt new.. since 1996 England doesnt win a single penalty shootout... focus on that and focus on where you can change and improve...

Australia is out of the world cup after a brilliant display with a penalty on the 94th minute that was not a penalty... sure you would kill the whole world if this happened to england. imo stop with the conspiracy theories and concentrate on your team and on what depends from them to get better, and take all that media circus off their back give them space to breath and ofc get a decent manager.
But sure is alot simpler to blame it on others, and unfortunatly english are experts on that...

On Euro 2004 you blamed the referee claiming the disalowed goal was fair, when everyone see's it wasnt, everyone but the english, on mexico 86 was maradona's hand of god or whatever sure... if we were to take all the explanations for failure from the english media and fans as i said before you would be at least 6 times world champions... come on get real and learn to live with defeat!

 

[Bracken]

On your first point there is no tackle on rooney on the first place that is a foul that's why it isnt given, i dont know where you seen the match and if you are a men or not but i can tell you from experience even a small push on that area hurts like fecking hell, so yes rooney intentionally stepped on carvalho's balls and yes he deserved to be sent off... even your manager said that. Now the thing in question is why didnt the referee showed him the red card straight away... we are assuming that he wasnt going to send him off but in case you havent noticed referees are using comunication devices in this world cup and he could have been listening or talking to one of the assistents to get a clearer picture of the situation and then rooney pushes ronaldo away and that triggers the action...

Do you know the first thing about football? Have you ever even been to a live top-flight match? You make 3 main points, none of which have any basis in reality.

1. Rooney was clearly fouled. Twice.

2. Someone stepping on your nuts doesn't hurt as much as Carvalho made out. Yes I'm a man - unlike Portuguese football players.

3. As for your "theory" about the ref consulting his assistant - er, he was 3 yards away. There was no consultation. There would have been no card. Ronaldo's wink summed it up.

As for the rest of your post, it was pointless drivel. Your team is a bunch of cheats and I hope the French give them a stuffing. It's been a shit World Cup on the whole (apart from a few highlights) and the worst I can remember for blatant cheating (and I can remember back to 1978, so that's a fair few). FIFA need to sort it out or this great sport will become a joke.

 

[Corran]

agree

if everyone was booked for diving everywhere in the field we would finish some games with 5 against 5 i'm afraid... 1st half outdoor with 11 and 2nd half we better go indoors as we only have 5 left...
alot worst than Portugal was the Netherlands.. Arjen Robben would be sent off at least 5 times on every game, and he plays in the premiership and you love him etc etc..

Not to be picky but that would never happen, a match gets abandoned when a team gets down to 7 players, and in general a 2-0 victory is handed to the other team at that point!

 

[Bugz]

In every rule there is an exception... you are lucky enough to be that exception.
Unfortunatly on a poor game only one team could go ahead, this time was us, i'm sure you will have your time, to people like you i just wish all the best and hope to see you soon on a big tournament!

Exactly.

The game was poor, from both sides. Compare it to the France vs Brazil game and you see such a substantial difference in gameplay. Unfortunately for us, delaying any goal only leads to defear. Our players were aware of this and so was Sven, hence why he pushed on Lennon for the wing-speed and Crouch to try and get some long range balls into the net.

Rooney's red-card was perfectly justified. He did step on the guy intentionally (being provoked / badly shoulder barged / fouled etc. does not justify that). He then pushed the other player as he was speaking to the referee.

The only thing I was slightly annoyed with was the diving in the World Cup as a whole. I think England need to adapt more for the World Cup. I'm proud to say we hardly dived at all, whereas other teams did. However, the referees were good in a sense some yellow cards were handed out to divers.

But, hey, bring on euro 2008!

 

[Hawkwind]

You havent got your facts right, FIFA instructed all referres to ONLY book a player for diving if THEY WERE ABSOLUTELLY SURE it was a dive and not the other way around. Stop blaming the dives, how many times did portugal got the benefit of a dive in this game, that i remember not a single one. So the only bad thing is for the stupid diver that could probably have passed the ball and created some danger and in that way he gave it away.

Did not get my facts worng FIFA did state they would clamp down on the diving and playacting, FACT!

Leard to read, I did not blame the result on diving. We lost on penalties, plain and simple. The referee ignored several blatent dives. Portuguese players went down acting out agony, the ref ignored them and alowed play to continue on serval occasions. So, in his mind he knew there was no foul/contact. He should have booked the player which was FIFA's guidline.

There was no diving in the box and if i recall there was only 1 or 2 instances where we seen a dive in this particular match

Agreed non in the box, mainly because they couldn't get past the impressive defence. In open play I Counted 4 in first 20 mins of the second half alone (just watch part of the game whilst eating lunch).

so please you lost look into why you lost in your own team. England doesnt win a penalty shootout in 10 years

Incorrect, admittedily they have never won a penalty shoot out in the World Cup.

come on everyone was thinking already in England that it was going to be an easy win because Deco and Costinha were out and Ronaldo was only on 50% if so... dont underestimate that's always the biggest mistake.

Actually in another thread yesterday I stated I did not think we would win. That was based on the unimpressive performance of the team up to that point.

Basically Portugal played the way everyone knew they would. With lots of skill but also with a win at all cost attitude. Even cheating to achieve it. If you can't see that then your view is rather jaded. Go look at teh BBC blog site (606) and read the comments from all over the world regarding your beloved team.

To be honest I really don't understand it. Portugal have such great players, they really do not need to resort to the diving and play acting.

Finally, as stated in other posts certain players in the Portugese side are the epitome of everything I hate in football.

 

[Corran]

Do you know the first thing about football? Have you ever even been to a live top-flight match? You make 3 main points, none of which have any basis in reality.

1. Rooney was clearly fouled. Twice.

2. Someone stepping on your nuts doesn't hurt as much as Carvalho made out. Yes I'm a man - unlike Portuguese football players.

3. As for your "theory" about the ref consulting his assistant - er, he was 3 yards away. There was no consultation. There would have been no card. Ronaldo's wink summed it up.

As for the rest of your post, it was pointless drivel. Your team is a bunch of cheats and I hope the French give them a stuffing. It's been a shit World Cup on the whole (apart from a few highlights) and the worst I can remember for blatant cheating (and I can remember back to 1978, so that's a fair few). FIFA need to sort it out or this great sport will become a joke.

4) The assistant is on the left hand side of the defenders, thus he had no view of it.

5) the 4th and 5th official have sod all communication with the ref. 4th is a spare official incase 1 gets injured, ment to keep control of the bench and sort out subs/display time added on. 5th official meant to have a nap incase 2 officials have to stop due to injury.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Do you know the first thing about football? Have you ever even been to a live top-flight match? You make 3 main points, none of which have any basis in reality.

1. Rooney was clearly fouled. Twice.

2. Someone stepping on your nuts doesn't hurt as much as Carvalho made out. Yes I'm a man - unlike Portuguese football players.

3. As for your "theory" about the ref consulting his assistant - er, he was 3 yards away. There was no consultation. There would have been no card. Ronaldo's wink summed it up.

As for the rest of your post, it was pointless drivel. Your team is a bunch of cheats and I hope the French give them a stuffing. It's been a shit World Cup on the whole (apart from a few highlights) and the worst I can remember for blatant cheating (and I can remember back to 1978, so that's a fair few). FIFA need to sort it out or this great sport will become a joke.

1st i have probably been to more international matches than all your familly together

2nd there was no foul over rooney whatsoever, everyone seen that except you and the english media

3rd weather or not the card is for the action on carvalho rooney deserved to be sent off and was admited by then england squad

as to where you stand towards portugal... well the last 6 years should mean something to you as you have never beaten us, the comon thing though is you always found someone else to blame but yourselfs... are all the referees in this world against england also?

accept defeat and learn to live like a men that you claim you are... the true men heads his head up high on defeat, something unfortunatly you dont know how to do!

 

[Unleashed]

1st i have probably been to more international matches than all your familly together

2nd there was no foul over rooney whatsoever, everyone seen that except you and the english media

3rd weather or not the card is for the action on carvalho rooney deserved to be sent off and was admited by then england squad

as to where you stand towards portugal... well the last 6 years should mean something to you as you have never beaten us, the comon thing though is you always found someone else to blame but yourselfs... are all the referees in this world against england also?

accept defeat and learn to live like a men that you claim you are... the true men heads his head up high on defeat, something unfortunatly you dont know how to do!

Try spell check ffs

Portugal are cheats end of.

 

[Dorimor1]

Ilur I certainly don't remember portugal taking loosing too well at euro 04

 

[Bracken]

More bollox

You talk about being a man after watching your national team throughout the tournament? F*cking ironic that is.

England are out and that's all there is to it. We're out because Gerrard, Lampard and Carragher missed their penalties. But we go out having played the game fair and in the spirit that it should be played. You're lot a bunch of cheating ***** who were aided by an Argentinian ref (whoever made that decision needs their head examining) - and I hope the French give you a right stuffing. Only seeing Ronaldo cry again will make up for last night.

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Did not get my facts worng FIFA did state they would clamp down on the diving and playacting, FACT!

Leard to read, I did not blame the result on diving. We lost on penalties, plain and simple. The referee ignored several blatent dives. Portuguese players went down acting out agony, the ref ignored them and alowed play to continue on serval occasions. So, in his mind he knew there was no foul/contact. He should have booked the player which was FIFA's guidline.




Agreed non in the box, mainly because they couldn't get past the impressive defence. In open play I Counted 4 in first 20 mins of the second half alone (just watch part of the game whilst eating lunch).



Incorrect, admittedily they have never won a penalty shoot out in the World Cup.



Actually in another thread yesterday I stated I did not think we would win. That was based on the unimpressive performance of the team up to that point.

Basically Portugal played the way everyone knew they would. With lots of skill but also with a win at all cost attitude. Even cheating to achieve it. If you can't see that then your view is rather jaded. Go look at teh BBC blog site (606) and read the comments from all over the world regarding your beloved team.

To be honest I really don't understand it. Portugal have such great players, they really do not need to resort to the diving and play acting.

Finally, as stated in other posts certain players in the Portugese side are the epitome of everything I hate in football.

1st they would clamp down on diving that is true but they also said to only book if you are absolutelly sure it was a dive with intention to foul down the referee.

2nd sometimes playes fall because they put their feet in a wrong position, because there is a slight contact or just because they fall... i think if there referee allows the ball to be played and doesnt sign anything and infact the player had dived he is punished already he lost the ball and has to face a defending situation. now things are diferent when there are clear dives in the box and when the player turns back to the referee and protests his decision. this is only my personal opinion.

3rd i was not talking solelly about world cups the last time i remember was against spain in euro 1996 they won on penalties.

4th i agree that portugal has been a shadow of what they can do and should do, i dont know why if they are tired or its tactics i dont know but they can do alot better, but what about england they they deserve to go through more than portugal did? they havent played anything at all. IMO poor game, poor teams, and 150 euros badly spent for everyone that went to the stadium.

5th i agree with you i dont like to see diving and foul play, though the game these days is about wining and not showing a great display... best example... czech republic against greece on Euro 2004 greece defended 90 minutes at all costs CZ did about 40 shots on goal and yet greece went to the final and beat portugal on it, when also portugal were far superior.

Now, they have beaten us, it was bitter but i dont blame the referee or whatever for it.. i blame the portuguese team that couldnt overcome greece twice... as a matter of fact none could. and perhaps this world cup teams are playing all a bit like greece, have a look at brasil, with all those stars and they struggle to get past far less skilled teams, italy, england itself... portugal is also in this group and dont get me wrong i dont like the way they are playing, but in the end what counts is the victory in a tournament like this.
Why did everyone used to hate italy's style of play? same reason... so this isnt new... the only problem is the way people deal with this situations.. and unfortunatly for them english fans dont know how to handle defeat !

 

[Ilur-OOM]

Ilur I certainly don't remember portugal taking loosing too well at euro 04

you havent seen me coming here blaming defeath on anyone other than our national team for sure though!!

and i can tell you that it was bitter, it was a final portugal totally outplayed and outskilled greece (that wasnt the case yesterday) but even then there was no violence and i said back then what i say today.. they scored one more than we did... so they won... look again at the team see what we did wrong and lets not do it again... maybe this year it's us wining the world cup with a not so stylish type of play... who knows.. i dont like it but then again im not the manager and i can only be proud of the players for giving everything up in the field like they are doing.