Politics Election 2019

[Gwadien]

Plebs will look at people they hate and fully endorse their rights being taken away if they think it means those people they hate might be affected.

Then, like anti-vaxxers on their deathbeads, they'll wonder why the human rights act isn't there to protect them.

Precisely, you can say I'm wrong all you want but I do believe there's a correlation between Brexit voters, covid scepticism and people wanting to rid human rights for certain humans.

 

[Scouse]

I believe the old 'Leopards eating your face party' internet trope applies here.

I am unaware of this. Please to be educating me

 

[Ormorof]

I am unaware of this. Please to be educating me

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com

 

[Aoami]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-59687316

Party over?

 

[Embattle]

Hell of a swing.

 

[Raven]

Haha. Bye bye Tories.

 

[Gwadien]

Is losing a seat to the Lib Dems really that much if a catastrophy?

It would be cool if our next government was Libs-Green doe.

 

[Embattle]

Even with lent votes it is still a massive ass kicking since it used to be such a safe seat.

 

[Aoami]

Is losing a seat to the Lib Dems really that much if a catastrophy?

It would be cool if our next government was Libs-Green doe.

Yes, because they had a majority of 23k in the last election - so a swing of 29k, on a low turnout vote. That is absolutely damning. Whilst it's notoriously hard to hold a seat in a by election this deep into a government (11 years now?), they are generally seen as a good indicator of how the country is feeling.

 

[Tom]

Let's not forget which party enabled the Conservatives, and essentially enabled Brexit.

 

[Aoami]

It will be interesting to see if people think Labour are a viable vote yet. Lib Dems will still be wildly unpopular in some parts of the country, especially London where there is a lot of people in their late 20s/30s who will never forgive them for selling out students for the stupid AV ref that was never ever going to pass.

 

[Embattle]

Lib Dems won't ever be a viable vote when it comes to the next GE.

 

[Wij]

Lib Dems won't ever be a viable vote when it comes to the next GE.

Yeh - too many seats like mine where they get no votes and it's 99% a Labour/Tory split.

The problem is that now that they get fuck all in Scotland, Labour has virtually no path to get a majority either. It's Tory majority or hung parliament realistically forever under the current system.

 

[Raven]

Wow, lol.

"The prime minister put much of the blame for the by-election defeat on media coverage, saying that "what the people have been hearing is just a constant litany of stuff about politics and politicians and stuff that isn't about them".
"The job of the government is to make people like you [journalists] interested in the booster roll-out and skills and housing and everything else we're doing," he added. "Unfortunately we haven't been able to get the focus on those issues."

Boris Johnson urged to make changes after North Shropshire by-election defeat

Senior Tories warn Boris Johnson after Lib Dems take ultra-safe Tory seat in North Shropshire.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Gwadien]

Wow, lol.

Boris Johnson urged to make changes after North Shropshire by-election defeat

Senior Tories warn Boris Johnson after Lib Dems take ultra-safe Tory seat in North Shropshire.

www.bbc.co.uk

hehehehehehe

'I tried to distract you away from the christmas party scandal by spending a few billion on probably not very efficiently rolling out booster vaccines, you didn't fall for it again, so I'm trying again!'

I do think we should try and make it less obvious that he's going to lose the next election though, otherwise he may do something drastic to try to stay in power, invade France for instance.

 

[Embattle]

Recently the vaccine/booster rollout was a clusterfuck any way, the government dropped the ball on the continued push on vaccines and was slow to get boosters going.

 

[Embattle]

Lord Frost: Boris Johnson's Brexit minister resigns from cabinet

Lord Frost is unhappy with the direction of the government and rising taxes - but the final straw was the re-introduction of COVID measures due to the spread of Omicron variant, Sky News understands.

news.sky.com

 

[Raven]

To be fair, he has been as much use a chocolate tampon.

 

[Wij]

Allegedly he doesn’t think the government is right-wing enough and he wants it back to low taxes and austerity.

Which doesn’t surprise me.

I would also guess that he’s a bit humiliated that he had to cave in on the role of the ECJ rather than having a trade war. Plus a lot of his Brexit actually gets implemented in the new year which probably isn’t going to look good for him.

 

[Tom]

So many Twitter accounts saying it's because he doesn't like the direction the government is going.

And not because he's completely failed and is getting out asap. I wonder how long it'll take for the UK to rejoin the EU.

 

[Raven]

Why would anyone choose to join the EU?

 

[DaGaffer]

So many Twitter accounts saying it's because he doesn't like the direction the government is going.

And not because he's completely failed and is getting out asap. I wonder how long it'll take for the UK to rejoin the EU.

Probably not the EU, that ship has sailed, but the single market and customs union? Inevitably.

 

[Raven]

Why tho? What use is an insular organisation in the real world? Especially when leaders are picked (not elected) from failure.

 

[Gwadien]

Why tho? What use is an insular organisation in the real world? Especially when leaders are picked (not elected) from failure.

America is King Kong and China is Godzilla, the EU are the power rangers that join together to compete with them.

 

[caLLous]

Lol, Frost isn't even hanging around as previously said, there must've been an almighty bustup when it became apparent that none of his threats to the EU were even vaguely actionable.


View: https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1472330300923465737

 

[Embattle]

To me the NIP has been argued about for far too long and since it's introduction there have already been changes offered any way, ECJ to do with EU rules are fine. I hate this endless posturing of using article 16 before anything serious has actually occurred, a bad case of putting the cart before the horse.

 

[caLLous]

 

[DaGaffer]

Why tho? What use is an insular organisation in the real world? Especially when leaders are picked (not elected) from failure.

Trade. Ironically the thing the British said the EU was supposed to be about in the first place. When rational actors are back in charge they will realise that a. they've been doing trade deals that are at best no better, and more often actually worse than the EU brokered deals they already had, and b. because you can't tow the the UK to Asia, the EU will always be Britain's biggest trading partner, and cutting your nose off to spite your face is fucking stupid. And finally c. the pressure to allow worker mobility will become overwhelming, racist OAP opinions be damned.

 

[Tom]

There's a nice old bike I want to buy in Belgium. This one. But now, because of Brexit, I have to pay import duty and VAT on top of the price. I can't do it even if I wanted to right now because of covid, but it's a real pain in the arse suddenly having all these bureaucratic barriers in the way. And the Brexiteers told us all that there'd be less red tape, not more.

Also, anyone who's had to deal with carnets will know what a royal pain in the arse they are. And expensive too. All just paperwork, all unnecessary, all a massive backward step. Just because some people didn't like certain EU laws. Laws they were never able to identify.

 

[DaGaffer]

There's a nice old bike I want to buy in Belgium. This one. But now, because of Brexit, I have to pay import duty and VAT on top of the price. I can't do it even if I wanted to right now because of covid, but it's a real pain in the arse suddenly having all these bureaucratic barriers in the way. And the Brexiteers told us all that there'd be less red tape, not more.

Also, anyone who's had to deal with carnets will know what a royal pain in the arse they are. And expensive too. All just paperwork, all unnecessary, all a massive backward step. Just because some people didn't like certain EU laws. Laws they were never able to identify.

You're not liable for VAT on second-hand items. Not sure about import duty.