Eff MW2 in the ass

ECA

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The PC Version will not be shipping with a dedicated server client.
That means Peer 2 Peer only...and we all know how awesome clientside run servers are in FPS games.


We're just prioritizing the player experience above the modders and the tuners,"

Again and again during our conversation, West and Zampella hammer the point that hardcore PC players lose very little to this change relative to the returns that casual to moderate fans will see. Clans can set up private matches to do their training or what have you; all they lose is the ability to customize the game on a deeper level with mods and such


wowiaiasaasjkasjajkaj I don't even know what to say.

It's obviously an anti-PC move paid for by microsoft.


Just wow.
I cannot get over anyone saying that the player experience will be better without dedicated servers.....



http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx
 

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There's over 100k signatures on some petition about this, not that I expect it'll make much difference. Total bullshit move and I won't be buying the game cos of it.
 

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The fact they even claim to be enhancing the player experience by removing it is just a ludicrous statement of insanity.
 

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Lying through their teeth PR bullshit, it's really tiresome but I guess some people will lap it up otherwise they wouldn't do it.
 

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Seems to be a case of a console dev just not 'getting it' with PC gaming.

Their attitude towards the complaints is disgusting.
 

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stunning. how can this even remotely be within the realms of thinking for any pc game dev team?!
 

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Cancelled my pre-order based on this news over at VE3D, how they can ignore 120,000 (and rising) people complaining is a fucking farce.
 

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It's obviously an anti-PC move paid for by microsoft.
That doesn't add up. It'd be a windows game for PC unless the devs are totally mental. I would suggest that they're probably being lazy, does the box version run a dedicated server?
 

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I will be enjoying it on xbox, nice to see for once all the PC bods not screaming how amazing they are being on PC and consoles suck

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I think PS3 and 360 fans will be united in saying gutted. Makes no difference to console gaming whether its dedicated servers (which it isnt) or not
 

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Doesn't Operation Flashpoint 2 also have no dedicated server support? Did Modern Warfare 1 get any good mods?

The price for MW2 is also higher than all other PC games?
 

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I'd actually shit a brick if they done the same for the console versions.
 

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Oh well, saved myself £40 then, will download it from "the usual places" for the single player content.
 

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I'd actually shit a brick if they done the same for the console versions.

they wouldn't have to its the way console works anyway.

I can actually see what they're saying. Whenever I log on for a quick game of CoD4 on the PC I'm met with a long list of modded servers, cheaters, locked servers, clan servers. You see I'm a lone player, I don't log on to play with my mates so it wouldn't really effect me at all. I'd get a nice cheat free, up to date version of the game to play at random.

On the other hand my experience so far with online console gaming has been pretty bad so far. Left 4 dead being a pain in the arse, connecting to some American kid whos downloading porn at the same time seems to give me pings I can only recall in my 56k modem nightmares. And if this system is similar to that, well I can understand the uproar. It seems the matchmaking system as it stands is nowhere near up to the job, hell it'd be nice if they at least attempted to find someone for you in the same country ffs!!!
 

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Due to my 50meg line me or one of my housemates always ends up being the host for COD4 so no problems connecting with us at all :)

Also on Xbox Live there is little to no lag, the only time i see lag is when 3/4 people all log into the round at once then it calms down again. You really do get what you pay for when it comes to online imo
 

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Getting it for 360 and LIVE has never really been laggy tbh feel sorry for the pc folk though
 

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Left 4 dead being a pain in the arse
Blame valve, l4d is notoriously shit for sorting itself out on both the consoles and the PC.
 

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Shitty stick controls and auto aiming go some way to hide high latency.
 

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Isn't that why ARMA2 is considered better than OpF2?
 

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Shitty stick controls and auto aiming go some way to hide high latency.

I'll take my sticks over snobby PC modders bitching over the fact they cant hack and ruin a game for anyone not in their clan anyday

EDIT: i also always find the PC snobs who cuss sticks cant use a pad to save their lives, btw i take auto aim off (yes i know there is still a slight auto aim still on) and unless i am very drunk i rarely come below top 2. My mate is a PC snob and its hilarious watching him use a pad, he gets all stroppy then comes back with the usual well if this was a mouse and keyboard i would own you, it isnt sucka so be a man and take your beating if your gonna trash talk me
 

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Nobody is bitching because they cant kick people from their clan servers sparx.

This tribal fanboyism is lame. If Console owners were shafted I'd have a lot of sympathy, perhaps you just dont understand why dedicated servers offer a much superior experience to client hosted?
 

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I'll take my sticks over snobby PC modders bitching over the fact they cant hack and ruin a game for anyone not in their clan anyday

EDIT: i also always find the PC snobs who cuss sticks cant use a pad to save their lives, btw i take auto aim off (yes i know there is still a slight auto aim still on) and unless i am very drunk i rarely come below top 2. My mate is a PC snob and its hilarious watching him use a pad, he gets all stroppy then comes back with the usual well if this was a mouse and keyboard i would own you, it isnt sucka so be a man and take your beating if your gonna trash talk me

PC snobs, fucking lol. A mouse is factually superior to a stick for aiming. I wonder if a paralympic 100m guy would tell Usain Bolt to suck it up and use a wheelchair. :D

Modders don't ruin games, in many cases (Quake 2, Warcraft 3, to name a couple, hell Counter Strike was a fucking fan mod), they made a game mode better than the original. And the argument isn't purely or even mostly about modding.
 

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I'll take my sticks over snobby PC modders bitching over the fact they cant hack and ruin a game for anyone not in their clan anyday

EDIT: i also always find the PC snobs who cuss sticks cant use a pad to save their lives, btw i take auto aim off (yes i know there is still a slight auto aim still on) and unless i am very drunk i rarely come below top 2. My mate is a PC snob and its hilarious watching him use a pad, he gets all stroppy then comes back with the usual well if this was a mouse and keyboard i would own you, it isnt sucka so be a man and take your beating if your gonna trash talk me

get your arse on a mouse + keyboard server, get schooled, then "take your beating" , otherwise shut up - theyre different styles, its not suprising people cant be good with both

modders massively improved the first COD:MW*, and custom servers with or without mods keep a game fresh and interesting.

*particularly the one that had the "if your feet leave the ground you put your gun away for 2 seconds" mod that killed bunnyhoppers
 

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PC snobs, fucking lol. A mouse is factually superior to a stick for aiming. I wonder if a paralympic 100m guy would tell Usain Bolt to suck it up and use a wheelchair. :D

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I'll take my sticks over snobby PC modders bitching over the fact they cant hack and ruin a game for anyone not in their clan anyday

EDIT: i also always find the PC snobs who cuss sticks cant use a pad to save their lives, btw i take auto aim off (yes i know there is still a slight auto aim still on) and unless i am very drunk i rarely come below top 2. My mate is a PC snob and its hilarious watching him use a pad, he gets all stroppy then comes back with the usual well if this was a mouse and keyboard i would own you, it isnt sucka so be a man and take your beating if your gonna trash talk me

Well its true, stick controls are the biggest handicap ever, atleast over keyboard and mouse.
 

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