Dyvet Idea

[Gahn]

I would never have rolled a warden back then either tho. Only reason i rolled a warden now is because i can pretty much play it the same way as i played my warrior and i loved playing my warrior back then.

U got my point regardless of how annoying could have been, back in those days the warden was pretty much relegated to be a GrappleBot, not much else u could do with it. And no, not every1 has the time or the willing to reroll out of their main toon ^^

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

So because Jupiter just grappled, Wardens were only useful when grappling.

Good logic there. Sure speccing shield and the love helped, but there were good and shit Wardens before, and Jupiter was just the one that was well known for grappling the shit out of everything and nothing else, no heals, no side-snaring, no interrupts, nada. I am quite sure Septina would have done at least those things pre-Warden love.

 

[Lethul]

So because Jupiter just grappled, Wardens were only useful when grappling.

Good logic there. Sure speccing shield and the love helped, but there were good and shit Wardens before, and Jupiter was just the one that was well known for grappling the shit out of everything and nothing else, no heals, no side-snaring, no interrupts, nada. I am quite sure Septina would have done at least those things pre-Warden love.

Sadly the best things a warden could do in 95% of the cases was to chaingrapple main dps tank. So im sure if septina would have played warden back in those days he would have been a chaingrappler aswell.

 

[Septina]

Sadly the best things a warden could do in 95% of the cases was to chaingrapple main dps tank. So im sure if septina would have played warden back in those days he would have been a chaingrappler aswell.

Believe what you wish, thing is, i wouldnt have played a warden back then, nothing could have made me roll a class that does one thing over and over again for entire fights. If you find that sort of play fun sure, go ahead, it sure as hell isn't my idea of fun.

 

[Tuthmes]

Believe what you wish, thing is, i wouldnt have played a warden back then, nothing could have made me roll a class that does one thing over and over again for entire fights. If you find that sort of play fun sure, go ahead, it sure as hell isn't my idea of fun.

But yet, you still rolled a !

Ohh and

 

[Septina]

But yet, you still rolled a !

Ohh and

> luribitch.

 

[Tuthmes]

= Stampede!

A stampede is an act of mass impulse among herd animals or a crowd of people in which the herd (or crowd) collectively begins running with no clear direction or purpose.

Yah sounds about right.

 

[Gahn]

So because Jupiter just grappled, Wardens were only useful when grappling.

Good logic there. Sure speccing shield and the love helped, but there were good and shit Wardens before, and Jupiter was just the one that was well known for grappling the shit out of everything and nothing else, no heals, no side-snaring, no interrupts, nada. I am quite sure Septina would have done at least those things pre-Warden love.

So because 95% of grouped Wardens just grappled Jupiter is a moron, as i already said u need to flush your flawed logic and personal attacks down the toilet, since u are at it; see if u can manage to flush down yourselves also :kissit:

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

In your books he is as much a moron as 95% of the other ones you mentioned.

 

[Gahn]

In your books he is as much a moron as 95% of the other ones you mentioned.

Twisting my words doesn't change the point, it was a valid strategy back in those days and it payed out also. Rest is pure speculation by your side :touch:

 

[Cromcruaich]

slam when needed and heal when needed and when it's possible.

Wardens have heal?

 

[brad]

Wardens have heal?

so is your face!!

 

[brad]

sigh i'm bored.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Twisting my words doesn't change the point, it was a valid strategy back in those days and it payed out also. Rest is pure speculation by your side :touch:

When you perma root yourself too often, you can die because you can't react to being nuked, you die because you couldn't follow the kiting, the one you should have BG'ed dies as you perma grappled the wrong person or someone else dies as you didn't do an emergency heal, or you rezz too late, you don't use power/endurance leech (was an issue back then, some smart Battlemasters won some group fights because they made casters/healers run out of mana) and eventually you just grapple someone who gets a x-bow/bow out anyway and still interrupts.

I gave some advices what could have been done instead of chain grappling and now I've also said why chain grappling wasn't smart in the first place but I see your response in 5 minutes:

"Chain grappling was valid tactic because 95% of the Wardens did it."

Still somehow everyone enjoyed Jupiter the most when he just chain grappled and we thought "what a useless Warden". So much about my side and no personal attacks in here, I am happy to read more about your "chain grappling for world domination"-theories.

 

[leviathane]

Believe what you wish, thing is, i wouldnt have played a warden back then, nothing could have made me roll a class that does one thing over and over again for entire fights. If you find that sort of play fun sure, go ahead, it sure as hell isn't my idea of fun.

Then why play a warrior

 

[Septina]

Then why play a warrior

olol says the inf that got ka-prawned by that 'onebutton wonder'.















wub

 

[leviathane]

olol says the sitting warrior that got owned by my inf

 

[Septina]

olol says the sitting warrior that got owned by my inf

pöh >;(

 

[leviathane]

have we not been through this before on these boards? getting a sense of deja vu xD

 

[Gahn]

When you perma root yourself too often, you can die because you can't react to being nuked, you die because you couldn't follow the kiting, the one you should have BG'ed dies as you perma grappled the wrong person or someone else dies as you didn't do an emergency heal, or you rezz too late, you don't use power/endurance leech (was an issue back then, some smart Battlemasters won some group fights because they made casters/healers run out of mana) and eventually you just grapple someone who gets a x-bow/bow out anyway and still interrupts.

I gave some advices what could have been done instead of chain grappling and now I've also said why chain grappling wasn't smart in the first place but I see your response in 5 minutes:

"Chain grappling was valid tactic because 95% of the Wardens did it."

Still somehow everyone enjoyed Jupiter the most when he just chain grappled and we thought "what a useless Warden". So much about my side and no personal attacks in here, I am happy to read more about your "chain grappling for world domination"-theories.

Holy shit u became a pro of 8vs8 all of a sudden!!
All the things you mentioned are pretty much situational, depends on what kind of group you face. He didn't chain grappled against heavy casters group, he did it against tank heavy ones and only some of em because there were troubles against those groups.
But since u faced him soooo many times (yeah LOL), u sure know better than me eh!
In fact all of your knowledge about it comes from the Irc whining of Sept..

 

[Septina]

Holy shit u became a pro of 8vs8 all of a sudden!!
All the things you mentioned are pretty much situational, depends on what kind of group you face. He didn't chain grappled against heavy casters group, he did it against tank heavy ones and only some of em because there were troubles against those groups.
But since u faced him soooo many times (yeah LOL), u sure know better than me eh!
In fact all of your knowledge about it comes from the Irc whining of Sept..

We had 3 casters, 3 healers, shaman and a warr tho so that is kinda inaccurate.

 

[Tuthmes]

We had 3 casters, 3 healers, shaman and a warr tho so that is kinda inaccurate.

And no !

 

[Septina]

And no !

=((((((

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Holy shit u became a pro of 8vs8 all of a sudden!!
All the things you mentioned are pretty much situational, depends on what kind of group you face. He didn't chain grappled against heavy casters group, he did it against tank heavy ones and only some of em because there were troubles against those groups.
But since u faced him soooo many times (yeah LOL), u sure know better than me eh!
In fact all of your knowledge about it comes from the Irc whining of Sept..

I take it as a compliment then, since we ran just 2 casters and only saw him chain grappling.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

We had 3 casters, 3 healers, shaman and a warr tho so that is kinda inaccurate.

:worthy:

 

[kirennia]

On groups with casters and only one BGer, especially if you had a couple of decent dps tanks, it was a viable tactic. It wouldn't work on the german servers due to their 2/3BGer groups though

 

[Septina]

On groups with casters and only one BGer, especially if you had a couple of decent dps tanks, it was a viable tactic. It wouldn't work on the german servers due to their 2/3BGer groups though

Never ever said it's not a viable tactic tho, said it's annoying as hell to get spammed on you and it must be mindnumbingly boring to play like that as well, but still, it's a viable tactic.

 

[Lethul]

On groups with casters and only one BGer, especially if you had a couple of decent dps tanks, it was a viable tactic. It wouldn't work on the german servers due to their 2/3BGer groups though

what group on the german servers have 2-3 BGers?

 

[Raimo]

what group on the german servers have 2-3 BGers?

maybe some alb grp with 2 armsman/2 armsman and friar

 

[Gahn]

We had 3 casters, 3 healers, shaman and a warr tho so that is kinda inaccurate.

...and only some of em because there were troubles against those groups...

You want a red carpet or?