Driving

[Deadmanwalking]

Point still stands.

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by Any
Not wearing a seatbelt harms nobody but the person doing it so it should be that persons choice.

Thats not entirely true. People in the back seat can fly into the people sitting in the front seat and kill them.

People can also fly through the windscreen and hit sombody else thereby injuring/killing them.

Sometimes you need laws because people are too stupid to look after themselves.

 

[Xtro 2.0]

Originally posted by Any
Because they dont like them and its a stupid law? Why should the government be able to tell you that you must do something that harms nobody? Not wearing a seatbelt harms nobody but the person doing it so it should be that persons choice.
Same with helmets on bikes etc.

Actually why stop there?

I think we should ban all Health and Safety Regulations. If some pillock who works in food production wants to stick his head in a mixer then fuck him - let him do it!




Sweet baby Jesus...

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by Any
Because they dont like them and its a stupid law? Why should the government be able to tell you that you must do something that harms nobody? Not wearing a seatbelt harms nobody but the person doing it so it should be that persons choice.
Same with helmets on bikes etc.

That's not quite true to those sitting in the back of a car, or children. The law forces you to wear a seatbelt in case you're really thick, and think you're invincible.

 

[icemaiden]

Sorry if this was a few posts back, but i feel the need to reply to what cdr said.
The whole point of my first post, as Will has pointed out, was to show that no matter how harmless you think speeding on an empty motorway is, there are always bad things that can happen. I called the people who break the speed limit and imho drive dangerously twats, because these are the type of people that cause serious accidents and harm innocent people.
I'll put this in nice big letters so you can understand cdr...I DO NOT AGREE WITH SPEEDING, I NEVER SAID I DID, GET OVER IT FFS!.
For the record, not that is actually anyones business but his own, my dad got 3points on his licence for the accident, the judge decided the fact that i nearly died was more than enough punishment for him.
Hope this clears up any probs cdr has.

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by Any
Im all for legalising drugs.

You seem to be the proof as to why we shouldn't.

 

[Any]

Originally posted by dysfunction
Thats not entirely true. People in the back seat can fly into the people sitting in the front seat and kill them.

That should be the responsibility of the people in the front seats. If they are happy to take that chance then i dont care.

People can also fly through the windscreen and hit sombody else thereby injuring/killing them.

Are you sure about this? Ive never heard of this happening.

Sometimes you need laws because people are too stupid to look after themselves.

Absolutley not. Laws and the government should be here to protect people from other people. Not themselves.

Originally posted by icemaiden
For the record, not that is actually anyones business but his own, my dad got 3points on his licence for the accident, the judge decided the fact that i nearly died was more than enough punishment for him.
Hope this clears up any probs cdr has.

I thought doing 100+ meant an automatic ban?

 

[Xtro 2.0]

"It is the year 1992. Cars, freeways and highways no longer exist. The aeroplane is no longer a means of transport but a pleasure ride to see the world from the air.

No, the premier means of transport is the Personal Transporter Beam. In the future every man woman and child will enjoy the luxury of owning a small portable transportation device that will deconstruct their body and reconstruct it in the area of their choice!

This might sound like crazy science fiction but it is the logical extension of current research by our government and leading scientists."

As long as they don't need fking seatbelts tho eh?

 

[icemaiden]

Right Xtro.. time to give up the happy pills

 

[Xtro 2.0]

Originally posted by icemaiden
Right Xtro.. time to give up the happy pills

I don't need them as I have you babeh

 

[icemaiden]

oooooooooer missus lol

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by Any
That should be the responsibility of the people in the front seats. If they are happy to take that chance then i dont care.

/me senses Bodhi/Exor bastard offspring

 

[Any]

You all seem to be saying im wrong. But dont say why?

 

[Xtro 2.0]

I'm about to fk off home from work but

a) I can't even fathom how you think what you do

b) much less need it explained

c) I presume you don't have kids. Would you seriously not make them wear seatbelts and not object to parents that didn't?

Btw full marks for saying what you really think. I'm honestly not flaming you I just don't get your POV at all

 

[Any]

I dont have kids. But if i did i would make them wear seatbelts. I would object to parents who didnt. Kids are slightly different, they cant be expexted to understand the dangers involved.
I always wear my seatbelt and allways make sure any passengers in my car do. But i wear it because i think its a good idea, not because the government says i should.

What im saying is that if someone(an adult) chooses not to wear a seatbelt and that decision will harm nobody but himself. Then why should he be punished for it?

I really do belive that if people want to harm or do things that could possibly harm themselves(and nobody else) then what right does anyone have to tell them they shouldnt be doing it?

 

[Will]

Originally posted by Any
Absolutley not. Laws and the government should be here to protect people from other people. Not themselves.

Classic Tory point of view, as opposed to the more left wing idea of the state looking after people.

I'm a leftie, btw.

 

[Durzel]

WARNING: Sarcasm

I actually tried driving without a seatbelt when I was pissed once, and it was pretty hard keeping in a straight line above 80mph let me tell you, especially with the added anxiety of driving without insurance.

 

[Any]

Thats twice youve called me a Tory Will.
But i really have no idea where my views leave me. They tend to differ quite a lot on different subjects.

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by Any

I always wear my seatbelt and allways make sure any passengers in my car do. But i wear it because i think its a good idea, not because the government says i should.

it's a shame the government tries to keep you alive isn't it?

 

[icemaiden]

In his(?) case, yes it is tdc.

 

[Will]

Originally posted by Any
Thats twice youve called me a Tory Will.
But i really have no idea where my views leave me. They tend to differ quite a lot on different subjects.

From what I can make out, you are a right-wing liberal, which means you believe in a weak government when it comes to business and individual rights, but tough on crime.

Political compass should give you more of an idea of what I mean.

 

[Xtro 2.0]

I've just done the test on that political compass site.

Results :

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

Actually put me in the same area as Mandela and Gandhi which has just made my gf piss herself laughing...

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by Tom.
/me senses Bodhi/Exor bastard offspring

Hey, bodhi and exor were both fairly intelligent.

 

[Tom]

I don't remember Exor being intelligent in any way.

 

[Any]

Originally posted by Testin da Cable
it's a shame the government tries to keep you alive isn't it?

The government does not keep me alive, i do that myself.


Anyway, ive just done the the political compass test and it gave me:

Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77

Which is where i would probably have put myself and seems to be somewhere near what Will said. But maybe not as right as you thought Will?
I seem to be closer to The Dalai Lama than anyone else.

 

[Will]

I tend to think more on a classic right/left divide, which is why that site is handy. It seems about correct, though I'd have thrown you more off to the right.

 

[Any]

Originally posted by mank!
Hey, bodhi and exor were both fairly intelligent.

Why do you all hate me so?

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by Any
The government does not keep me alive, i do that myself.

I'm sure you do as to the government not doing it's damnedest to keep you alive...ooh well I dunno heh

 

[mank!]

Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.44

I knew I was lefty, but didn't think I was quite so liberal.

 

[Gumbo]

Some things to catch up :-

I think that it's in December that it becomes an offence to sit in the drivers seat of a car with a mobile phone in your hand. I'll check that for you tomorrow and report back if I remember.


Over 100 mph is an automatic ban under most circumstances, but that might be a ban for as little as 7 days.


Will knows my political persuasions, and I'd ask him not to print them until after the next election, for fear of prejudicing the electorate.