Driving

[Deadmanwalking]

Xtro was off on his hols and had packed to much anyway.

 

[Xtro 2.0]

As if I'd drive a Datsun you cheeky bast.

All I take on holiday is a copy of the Bible anyway.

*cough*

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by mank!
What always frightens me, whether I'm driving or not is people who overtake more than two cars in one go on a busy main road then have to cut in really quickly when something comes round the corner at high speed.

The majority of people on the roads over 25 if re-tested now would probably fail.

someone overtaking you while coming up on a blind corner didn't deserve to pass in the first place tbh

 

[evilmonkeh]

old grannies are the worse

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by old.ignus
You think you've got it bad around here on my way to work we have the idiotic farmers that insist on going out on the main road during the rush hours. Now I'm not sure on the law but I think they're supposed to pull over whenever there are 9+ vehicles behind them but I know for a fact they hold competitions as to how many they can get at once. Often I'll find myself running late for work and having to speed up to make up for lost time, and at this point I'm also very angry so now I'm likely to cause an accident all because of some bumpkin who thinks hes clever.

And don't get me started on pedestrians and cyclists.

'Most stupid thing to say' awards nomination 2003, by ignus

 

[SoWat]

Well I don't know about farmers having competitions with the aim of causing traffic jams, but a number of farmers have been prosecuted for holding up following traffic. I forget the number of cars trapped behind the worst one, but it was a hefty figure.

 

[PR.]

I think that nowadays the number of young inexperienced drivers are being 'over taken' by the number of stupid careless experienced drivers.

People who are driving and think their car is 30ft wide and couldn't possibly pass through that gap

People who are in the wrong lanes on roundabouts and instead of being patient and indicating their wrongdoing just barge into the other lane or actually go around the roundabout and cut you up.

People who drive into a crossroads governed by traffic lights that when they go red the driver stays sitting in the middle of the cross roads blocking all 4 routes and then looks at you like your in the wrong.

I've said it before that it took me 7 times to get my license, but I certainly don't consider myself a bad driver, I'm not perfect sometimes I forget to indicate or to thank a driver for giving way but I am only human

Oh and there was the time I drove halfway home in the pitch black and didn't put my lights on people were just seeing this black object driving down the road! I blame this on my new car having permanent on dashboard lights which made me think they were on

 

[icemaiden]

As someone who passed their driving test a week ago i would say that the tests have definately not got easier. Although i managed to pass with only 1 minor (for indicating while pulling away from side of the road).
The whole thing about driving too slow on tests - the way my instructor explained it was - if the limit is 30, then drive at 30 unless theres something stopping you ie tractor/granny driving infront of you, otherwise you're slowing up other traffic and showing a lack in confidence.
I must say though so far i've nearly had 3 major accidents, 1 of which was my fault, but in all honesty the other 2 were because of people not paying attention and pulling out of junctions infront of me.
I reckon everyone should be re-tested every 5 years or so to make sure driving standards don't drop.

 

[Teh Krypt]

Although.. you should see places like Turkeys drivers. Even in the tourist resorts

Ive been on the back of a moped there and, god it was scary. The people just don't give a dam where they drive. If someone won't let them into a road, by stoping, they will just jump right out at you

Was a three car pile up on a normal road last time I went

 

[SilverHood]

was 5 people in my maths class who took their driving test over the last year

they were all what I'd call irresponsible, thick, and a danger to society.

And now they all drive


Was driving with my mum the other week, going over a bridge (m25 below), and we got overtaken by a car full of 18-20 year olds... uphill

if a someone had been coming up the other side, one car atleast, would be thrown onto the m25.....

and they thought it was funny too

that said, drivers in the UK are very nice in other aspects... stopping to let people cross, letting people out, giving them right of way, etc

try driving in countries like denmark and germany... it's every driver for him/her self

 

[mank!]

I followed someone home tonight who must have been drink driving. He/she was drifting all over the road, speeding up and slowing down constantly for no reason, no hazards and an empty road except for us behind him/her who couldn't overtake because they were driiving in the middle of the road and swerving all over the place.

It was rather frightening, had anything been coming the opposite way we could have been well and truly fucked, let alone the driver in front.

 

[icemaiden]

Personally i'd have made a note of their number plate and reported them to the police as soon as i got home.

 

[mank!]

Well, he/she pulled over. I didn't think of doing that, thought of pulling over to check they were alright and give them a lift if they were pissed.

Probably should have done that though, doh.

 

[old.ignus]

Originally posted by Tom.
'Most stupid thing to say' awards nomination 2003, by ignus

And to which part are you referring to or are you just insulting me for the sake of it, that would be against the CoC wouldn't it?

And don't start on motorbikes, the other day I was in a queue of traffic moving at 40mph passing a speed camera, when all of a sudden a motorbike some roaring past me just as I passed the speed camera, I'm not sure but I think it flashed because of the bike, now I know all it takes is a little common sense on behalf of the person looking at the picture but sometimes they run short of that. Unfortunately for me right now one single point on my licence would ruin any chance of my intended career so Im really in the shit if they think it was me.

Only 2 out of about 50 cars flashed me tonight so intelligence maybe improving.

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by old.ignus
And to which part are you referring to or are you just insulting me for the sake of it, that would be against the CoC wouldn't it?

Often I'll find myself running late for work and having to speed up to make up for lost time, and at this point I'm also very angry so now I'm likely to cause an accident

That bit, perhaps? If you speed and cause an accident, don't blame some farmer for driving on the road. It's your fault.

 

[lovedaddy]

Well, one of my hates in life is people who think that driving fast on a public road is big. Its not.
My old man got his gf an Audi S3. The thing is like a rocket. And she used to happy drive it up and down the motorway at about 100. Why? cos she was sure that she was in control of the car, and given any situation she could control it.

After about 2 months I got really pissed with her stupid attude and took her out with me driving it. Got up some speed on a private road (about 55), and did an emergency stop, putting the back end out. Dust, smoke everywhere. Took me putting the shits up her to make her realise that any control you have at 70 mph, never mind 100+ is just an illusion.

Personally, I'd like to see speed limits lowered, normally I think the yanks get things wrong, but 55mph for top speed is more than enough. If your late, then leave earlier.

 

[old.ignus]

don't confuse speeding up with 100+ mph, I mean 70mph in a 60mph zone max and even then I'm pushing it, and an angry driver makes bad decisions. And yes it is the farmers fault, for a start they don't need to take the tractor out on the road at rush hour (I'm not talking 2 or 3 here I'm talking about 15 to 20 on 25 miles of road, and also as I mentioned when they get 9 vehicle behind them they have to pull over and let them by, I find myself looking in the rearview mirror and not being able to count all the cars because it goes too far back. What I'm saying is they do it on purpose and one day some businessman late for a meeting or some petrolhead with a heavy right foot is gonna clear someone out after being stuck behind someone playing a game. I was just using myself as an example, I'm too good a driver to have an accident *touches every piece of wood available*

 

[Xtro 2.0]

Originally posted by lovedaddy
My old man got his gf an Audi S3. The thing is like a rocket. And she used to happy drive it up and down the motorway at about 100.

She must be crazy. S3's can comfortably do 130 on the M1 between J25 and J31.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by old.ignus
don't confuse speeding up with 100+ mph, I mean 70mph in a 60mph zone max and even then I'm pushing it, and an angry driver makes bad decisions. And yes it is the farmers fault, for a start they don't need to take the tractor out on the road at rush hour (I'm not talking 2 or 3 here I'm talking about 15 to 20 on 25 miles of road, and also as I mentioned when they get 9 vehicle behind them they have to pull over and let them by, I find myself looking in the rearview mirror and not being able to count all the cars because it goes too far back. What I'm saying is they do it on purpose and one day some businessman late for a meeting or some petrolhead with a heavy right foot is gonna clear someone out after being stuck behind someone playing a game. I was just using myself as an example, I'm too good a driver to have an accident *touches every piece of wood available*

So basically, you're shifting responsibility from your own actions, onto the nearest person who happens to be in your way. Tractors have every right to be on the road, if you can't handle the fact that not everybody can drive up to the speed limit, then you should not be driving.

The road is not your personal highway, and anybody who 'gets in your way' is not obliged to 'get out of the way'. Its people like you, and not the indecisive drivers, who are the problem. If you get angry while driving, then you should pull over and take a few deep breaths. If you were walking in a pedestrianised shopping precinct, and some old fella with a walking stick got in your way, would you lose your rag and barge past him? Don't think that just because you're sat in something that gives you power, that you have the right to use that power to get where you want.

Oh, BTW I passed my test first time, but I'm not so stupid as to believe that I am the only person on the road whose business is of any importance. I'm a good driver, but I've made mistakes, just like anybody else.

 

[Durzel]

Originally posted by lovedaddy
Personally, I'd like to see speed limits lowered, normally I think the yanks get things wrong, but 55mph for top speed is more than enough. If your late, then leave earlier.

Give me a break.

Speed limits are around because of the lowest common denominator, the "Maureens" of this country who fail 3895 tests and then pass through sheer blind luck. Did anyone see "Worlds Worst Drivers" with Quentin Wilson when it was on a while back? I was actually incensed watching it - all of those people had full driving licenses, and couldn't drive to save their lives (literally).

If the vast majority of people were actually competent drivers, there would be no need for speed limits outside of residential areas or other areas where pedestrians travel.

I've quite happily done 170 in my previous car on a completely clear motorway in excellent conditions, and frequently do 90+ on any motorway (aka private road m'lud). Whether you agree that I'm in full control of the car is irrelevant so long as I'm not endangering anyone else. It's my lookout if I want to travel at those speeds, not yours.

 

[icemaiden]

Durzel you reckon driving on a clear motorway at 170mph is fine? I had the misfortune to be in a car with my dad (police response driver) driving at 3am on a stretch of motorway outside carlisle at 120mph. We then struck a large piece of wood that was in the middle of the road, i can only assume it had fallen off a lorry at some point. The drivers side front tire blew immediately, the vehicle was out of control, obviously we crashed and both my dad and i were injured. There was nothing that could've been done to prevent what happened, although if we were driving at 70mph i doubt very much i'd have had half as many broken bones as i ended up with.
Attitudes like yours make me completely disgusted, i can only hope you have some sort of shock to change your mind.

 

[lovedaddy]

Durzel, dont make such a fucking retarded statement, speedlimits are in place to protect people; and I can only hope that you kill yourself and dont involve anyone else, it what will be a crash one day.

And ANY public road is risking other peoples lives. If you want to take your car to a race day, then help yourself, but public roads are NOT the fucking place for it.

 

[mank!]

I think this thread quite ably demonstrates how many retards there are on the road.

 

[old.ignus]

Originally posted by Tom.
So basically, you're shifting responsibility from your own actions, onto the nearest person who happens to be in your way. Tractors have every right to be on the road, if you can't handle the fact that not everybody can drive up to the speed limit, then you should not be driving.

The road is not your personal highway, and anybody who 'gets in your way' is not obliged to 'get out of the way'. Its people like you, and not the indecisive drivers, who are the problem. If you get angry while driving, then you should pull over and take a few deep breaths. If you were walking in a pedestrianised shopping precinct, and some old fella with a walking stick got in your way, would you lose your rag and barge past him? Don't think that just because you're sat in something that gives you power, that you have the right to use that power to get where you want.

Oh, BTW I passed my test first time, but I'm not so stupid as to believe that I am the only person on the road whose business is of any importance. I'm a good driver, but I've made mistakes, just like anybody else.

Listen very carefully, I'll say it one more time. They are doing it on purpose they are also breaking the law. I'm quite happy to be stuck behind a old couple at 40mph in a 60mph zone, it keeps me out of trouble but a tractor doing about 15mph is taking the piss, the law says he has to pull over just like the law says I can't go above 60mph, I abide by the law now why can't they?
My main point is that all people get angry when they're held up I do you do (don't deny it) everybody does, its human nature, and angry people don't drive too well and not me but somebody else is gonna come speeding past one day without thinking and clear out a family on their way to their holiday, I have witnessed many near misses myself. Now I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying you don't understand my point so please just drop it. Can't say fairer than that.

 

[pcg79]

im not sure that you HAVE to pull over if there are cars behind you (when youre driving something big) but it IS common courtesy

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by old.ignus
Listen very carefully, I'll say it one more time. They are doing it on purpose they are also breaking the law. I'm quite happy to be stuck behind a old couple at 40mph in a 60mph zone, it keeps me out of trouble but a tractor doing about 15mph is taking the piss, the law says he has to pull over

What law? I've got a copy of the highway code in front of me and it says nothing even remotely similar.

 

[old.ignus]

yeah but you're not licenced to drive a tractor are you. I worked for a firm that used all sorts of vehicles and one of the tractor drivers got fined and points for not allowing vehicles to pass so it must be, unless they made it up on the spot.

 

[mank!]

To be quite, I think you're talking rubbish. I've never heard of tractors having to pullover out of anything other than common courtesy. Find me the law and I'll believe you, but as I've never heard of it I doubt it.

 

[old.ignus]

My evidence comes from seeing somebody actually getting done for it, thats all I know.

 

[mank!]

Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.

Although I'm not entirely sure it's illegal to do so, unless in extreme circumstances. Perhaps the guy you know who got fined/points was holding up a lot of traffic for no reason.

Either way, tractors have as much right to be on the road as you or any of us do.