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Overdriven

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Not sure how I feel about it. Still looking for a hero I actually like playing / don't get insta-gibbed with.
 

old.Tohtori

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Mostly it comes down to knowing what you can and can't pull off, as a rule of thumb; if you're not 100% sure you'll get a kill and survive(excluding teamfights and support-suicide to save carries), back out.

Keep playing and it'll dawn at some point how it works, can't really be taught ;)
 

Shagrat

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I'm currently playing one of these (which one depends on rest of team)

Kunkka
Undying
Razor
Crystal Maiden
Dazzle

Enjoy these 5 and know their strengths/weaknesses
 

old.Tohtori

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I think i'd have to check my top 5 wins chars(crystal maiden deffo #1 there) to see any kind of pattern, especially since i like the 1 of three draft thing(haven't played in a ahiwle as i forget names already :p).

EDIT: Single draft damnit :p
 

eksdee

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Best way to learn DOTA is most certainly to play with friends. It's so easy to go such a long time and frankly learn absolutely nothing without someone pointing out to you what you're doing wrong. To an extent it's possible to learn by watching streams/pro games, but it goes much quicker by essentially being told you suck constantly by teammates.

I spent a long time playing with friends who were pretty bad and had basically the wrong approach, I didn't improve much at all. Recently I've been playing with much better players and I've improved 10 fold in my 200 or so games than I did in the previous 5-600. Mostly I learnt some really important basic philosophies such as making the most you possibly can of every single second of game time - be it farming, ganking, warding, whatever. Keeping track of your position on the map relative to the enemy, your wards etc also - if you're a support, are you in position to ensure your carry can farm? do you have a TP to support the offlane if the enemy rotates to kill them? have you warded adequately that the enemy can't easily rotate to kill any of your cores without you knowing?

One of the most important things I've learnt is to never give up, even if you completely screw up early game and die a few times, there's generally always a way back in to the game.

There's so many small things to learn with DOTA that it can seem a completely insurmountable task at times, but given time it becomes a lot of fun learning new small things every day.

As for heroes, our drafter has picked CM for me in literally around 90% of our games recently (http://dotabuff.com/players/10742274/matches?hero=&game_mode=captains_mode&match_type=real). Good thing she's fun to play!
 

Mabs

J Peasemould Gruntfuttock
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ive said it before, i dont have a problem with these games, and i get you need to practise to get good at MOBA

i just have no wish to spend any time around the drooling shit eating cunts that make up most of the community :p

pity cos i like the concept :(
 

eksdee

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Yeah. Couldn't agree more. Only way I'm able to play solo is by doing ranked queue captain's mode - there I find 75% of the games are fine. Admittedly the other 25% are absolute cancer, but it's a much better than AP/RD/SD pubs.
 

eksdee

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Haha, we're aiming to go properly competitive so most of my time is spent tryharding. :p

However... pubs are a different story! And also when ahead you can get pretty carry-licious. We were really far ahead against a team with Wisp + Tony and I had a BKB, they tried to relocate gank me so I just popped BKB + ult and they both died. :D
 

Shagrat

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i had an ability draft game recently and we had enchantress 2 shotting everyone with her impetus power and someone elses damage amplifier.

some people who are playing it a lot are definitely finding some mental combos
 

old.Tohtori

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Got back into dota, few games in did my usual crystal maiden ez mode support(well since it's my go-to support), got 12-3-17(around that ballpark) and as we lost i got blamed because of "teamfight KS". Obviously, since i was solo support, got those stats, warded etc support stuff and kept 4 carries in mana/health i was the reason :p

Best carry was at 7 kills i think.
 

Gwadien

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DOTA is a bit wrecked now, due to the International and noobs having to copy the pros.

All you have to do is run a stupidly good push strat and you're more or less guaranteed a win, and you can just die as much as you want.
 

miri

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It's counterable but it's pretty annoying. Definitely looking forward to a progression in the meta, the early push / deathball stuff is really bad to both play and play against.

Playing in my first season of the joinDOTA League this season with my team, 4 wins no losses so far. Pretty shocked by just how awful the teams we've played so far have been, hopefully next season will be more of a challenge.
 

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