dont understand something

[uspe]

atm in the game albs are ruleing in rvr. cant say the oposite.
I have seen many times in FH the common phrase : bah the game isnt fun anymore albs are zerging us all the time. gonna quit the game.
yes i know its not fun when you go to rvr and die all the time and not geting rps or few. happened to me many times.
but
was the game more fun when midbernia or hibguard were ruleling in rvr???
or was more fun didnt even knew the word relic for over 6 months???
or was it fun when mids were taking keeps in the morning for many weeks, couple of months ago and they were ruleing???
anyway its summer if you think that you dont feel fun for the game go out take a swim ( night swimming is fun ) or go get a drink. and ofc relax.

 

[Qbic]

You are missing the point though; in the past Albs just outnumbered hibs/mids now with all 6 relics (supposing albs take relics and it does seem likely at this point) and their superior numbers it will disturb the balance on the server even more. Sad but true; the zergers of tonight will be the losers of tomorrow when roaming an empty NF.........

 

[~Latency~]

Albs > YOU

 

[Golena]

Albs lived without any relics for most of Old frontiers..

Mids/Hibs are the first to acuse Alb of being the "schoolkid" realm, yet they are the ones that jump ship, stop playing when they have a disadvantage.
Funny that.

 

[Everz]

Albs lived without any relics for most of Old frontiers..

Mids/Hibs are the first to acuse Alb of being the "schoolkid" realm, yet they are the ones that jump ship, stop playing when they have a disadvantage.
Funny that.

never jumped ship when we had disadvantage, just quit, wheres the fun in being zerged by 6 relic albs, and wheres the fun in zerging peeps when you have a massive advantage?

 

[islef]

Would you gives us back our relics if we say please?

 

[Golena]

never jumped ship when we had disadvantage, just quit, wheres the fun in being zerged by 6 relic albs, and wheres the fun in zerging peeps when you have a massive advantage?

I assume you didn't play when hib had 3 power relics forever either then?

If everyone had that attitude, then relics would of changed hands once at the start of the game and both other realms would of insta quit.. I'd be surprised if DAoC had survived 3 months.

 

[Everz]

I assume you didn't play when hib had 3 power relics forever either then?

If everyone had that attitude, then relics would of changed hands once at the start of the game and both other realms would of insta quit.. I'd be surprised if DAoC had survived 3 months.

never did, never played OF xD

 

[Golena]

never did, never played OF xD

Could you pretend you did so my argument works?

 

[Vladamir]

Would you gives us back our relics if we say please?

Only if you promise to rvr more as a realm :wub:

 

[Everz]

Could you pretend you did so my argument works?

ofc, yeh we had them, but it wasnt fun with an advantage xD

 

[Qbic]

Albs lived without any relics for most of Old frontiers..

Mids/Hibs are the first to acuse Alb of being the "schoolkid" realm, yet they are the ones that jump ship, stop playing when they have a disadvantage.
Funny that.

Lad if u have the numbers advantage you can cope with that; relics plus a clear numbers advantage over the other two realms is a dead server.
It's not rocket science......

 

[scarloc]

Albs won? :\

 

[Phule_Gubben]

Gentlemen, set your alarmclocks.

 

[censi]

yer like the noble albs have just stuck in there with dogged determination as their opposing realms adversary numbers have dwindled over time from the continued assault.

at least if you say it in RP speek it might be semi believable.

But if your not a bullshit kind of guy, you can say that the other realms are just fucked off with getting their nutz blasted off by forces twice as large.

mythic have known that realm balancing was an issue but they never really put in a decent system that actually ensured the numbers were reasonably balanced. hence we have what we have now.

 

[Light]

shrooms > alb zerg

 

[Kagato]

Even if they did balance all three realms to be an even population in all three realms it'll just mean albs always lose due to class balance. Currently albions only real advantage IS numbers and the classes are balanced according to this in most cases with diluted diversity.

Personally i'd happily trade a few hundred albs for baseline stun, instant CC, shrooms,chambers and 2 ST classes rather then just 1. :england:

Specially if I can pick the albs we get rid off...

As for the relic whine, as already mentioned, Albs suffered all of old frontiers for 2 years with hibs constantly in control of 3 power relics and most of the time with mids in control of all strength relics. I don't think albs held onto their own strength relic for more then a month at a time.

Did we threaten to quit or whine that hibs had won daoc? now we struggled on and the kids rerolled. Those same kids who are now whining because their fotm is now getting hit for 10% more damage.

 

[Huntingtons]

Albs lived without any relics for most of Old frontiers..

maybe that was true on your planet but not on mine bigsoz :/

the problem is alb outnumber by far - its hard to get decent fights (yes, i look for fg fights i dont like zerg, yes i deal with it) so us that (imho) play the game the fun way wont have fun, no fun = waste of money which in the end leads to people quitting.

 

[Bondoila]

Give more relics to alb xD, helping me alot when im geting my 49 sorc ready for the new bg.

 

[censi]

such a fucked up one sided view kagato.

a tad clueless post tbh

 

[Phake]

Personally i'd happily trade a few hundred albs for baseline stun, instant CC, shrooms,chambers and 2 ST classes rather then just 1. :england:

Specially if I can pick the albs we get rid off...

Im curious what kagato's "bottom100" looks like :] .. gif a detailed list :]

 

[Belomar]

Even if they did balance all three realms to be an even population in all three realms it'll just mean albs always lose due to class balance.

Class balance? I'm afraid that's just crap. The realms are evenly balanced these days. One would think an RR10 would know better, but I think you need a taste of L50 RvR in another realm to be enlightened.

 

[Andrilyn]

The realms are evenly balanced these days.

That just killed your entire argument

 

[Qbic]

such a fucked up one sided view kagato.

a tad clueless post tbh

Agreed, ignorance is a bliss for some people............

 

[tazzbe]

Looking from a point of view that i've been away about half a year or more and just returning it seems that nothing has changed since daoc was released.

Albs always had...and probably always will have the numbers. But the thing that everyone also must see is...all realms lost people that quit the game, and you not gonna tell me all the "new" albs that make us overpopulated these days are new players.

Those "new" albs have to come from either Hib or Mid. Now you can QQ all you want, but the truth was that for ages albs didn't have many relics...and tbh if you quit cause alb got all relics...why you play this game?

Of course they are important for the gameplay...but still a good mid or hib group > alb ones in most cases. You really gonna say you bought daoc cause you want relics???? There is so much more to the game than that.

If i would have a decent templated char and guild on Mid or Hib (i do got some Hib pryd chars)...i wouldn't mind playing those for a while vs "the zerg".

Problem is ever since beta Albion was most appealing to me...dunno why but it was and still is. Now it is cause i know people there...and restarting from 0 in another realm is something many people won't do.

You can hardly blame people for picking Albion when they created their char back in the old days...who knew how RvR was back then...and how it would evolve (sp?).

If you want to blame someone for Alb being overpopulated now in RvR...look at the fairly new guilds around...or Hib/Mid groups that switching sides for the relics.

In the end it's each player that decides he gonna log on into Mid, Hib or Alb...and for now it seems most pick Alb. Not much anyone can do about...but to make it more appealing to log your other chars from time to time.

 

[Valgyr]

Agreed, ignorance is a bliss for some people............

Indeed it is dont think alb debuffs grp perform any worse then the good setups in hib or mid. its very balanced atm imo. even stealth wars is close to balanced if u disregard relics.

 

[Belisar]

If we speak about how things were a long time ago then we have to acknowledge that if people left the game because they got hacked off by the activity of one realm or another then it did not matter too much because new people were joining the game.

If people leave the game now then it does matter because they are not being replaced.

We can moan about class advantages (bolt range mezz or whatever) but a lot of that comes down to personal opinion.

What is happening is that albs seem able to take or hold anything they want (keeps relics or whatever) due to numbers. Mids are no where to be seen at peak hours and hibbies are unable to act as a realm. All of this makes the game unbalanced.

Some of that is down to the realms to sort out for themselves. The population thing is not anything that the players themselves can resolve. Current under-population bonuses do not make people re-roll all they do is make it easier to hold a keep/tower when you are earning less rps. It does not make it harder to take the keep or tower or make the fighting easier.

When the game ceases to be fun, when one side becomes too dominant and the others feel they are not in with a chance of achieving anything then people leave.

Call it whine if you want, I guess it is to an extent. But before you post here telling people to piss off if they cannot handle the state of RvR think what happens if they do. Less enemy, less fights and less fun so the circle is complete. Either that or we get these daft raids at daft times just to take a keep in an enemy frontier.

I have no answers but I do see decent people leaving the game because RvR is not fun... and that worries me.

 

[Dave J.]

Personally i dont care if albs get all 6 relics: more alb FGs to fight.

But albs themselves will get less to fight..

 

[Dave J.]

shrooms > alb zerg

Monsterrezz > shrooms

 

[pjuppe]

Personally i dont care if albs get all 6 relics: more alb FGs to fight.

But albs themselves will get less to fight..

yes, and that's a shame since i'm kinda tired of playing mid (+nobody let's me play my skald) so i wanna RvR on alb but there's nothing to fight (judging from last nights experience, that is)