[DISCUSSION] Prydwen Down

Gamah

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semanon said:
dupe ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dp, dyp)
n.
1.An easily deceived person.
2.A person who functions as the tool of another person or power.

tr.v. duped, dup·ing, dupes
To deceive (an unwary person). See Synonyms at deceive.

its not duping .. its short for Duplication :eek:
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Cause and effect please. Cause: Server is unstable and desychnronized, Effect: DB gets corrupt and some stuff gets duplicated and not duping as cause and corrupt DB as effect.

I played the morning when the first issues came, there were 10-30 seconds long lag windows for all people on the server and I doubt anyone was doing an attack to screw the server.

This really doesnt add up unless the client itself sent duplicated notifications back to the in memory server objects maintaining character state, it shouldnt do this under any circumstances, no matter what the lag.

Thats not to say that it could of and that is the bug they are addressing ofc, still doesnt quite add up in my mind.
 

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Gamah said:
its not duping .. its short for Duplication :eek:

Naw it is duping, means fooling the server into accepting invalid client data i reckon.
 

tallwiz

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9 days and counting...


wouldnt mind an update as they where supposed to be testing internally yesterday....

and now its afternoon today....

WOTS GOING ON GOA?

:touch:
 

suelothvar

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tallwiz said:
9 days and counting...


wouldnt mind an update as they where supposed to be testing internally yesterday....

and now its afternoon today....

WOTS GOING ON GOA?

:touch:

no idea what world your in but i was playing this last thurs, its thurs today so what area you live in has a 9 day weak ? or was it wednesday but thats still only 8
 

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It was a thursday, so it's been 7 days..but tallwiz likes to blow things up to make more drama!
 

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well they have been testing our server internally since yesterday as Xalin says in his post.

If this is true why has there been no update at all today about how testing has gone/doing.

Be nice for alittle more info today :)
 

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Mauness said:
well they have been testing our server internally since yesterday as Xalin says in his post.

If this is true why has there been no update at all today about how testing has gone/doing.

Be nice for alittle more info today :)


No info till the babysitters at mythic get into office, but info would be nice tbh, my heretic on us is 28 now but just not as fun as my pryd heretic, though think its more guild than server related :(
 

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i was thinking that, but if its internal testing why would they need mythic, unless testing went bad, which means its still not fixed :)

but i could be wrong
 

suelothvar

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Mauness said:
i was thinking that, but if its internal testing why would they need mythic, unless testing went bad, which means its still not fixed :)

but i could be wrong


probably something daft like have send test results to mythic, to get the ok that nothing realy ihas gone wrong during test....

personally i like that theory about them useing prtd server to boost french cluster, and accidenly droping the server they ment dump us on :p

bit luck maybe we see server soon
 

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I've got the odd feeling that the server will be up for the weekend, or will remain down for another week!

anyone taking bets ?
 

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scarloc said:
A lot of items got duped.. means duplicated.

Suppose used interchangebly, items got duplicated henced duped, but the broader term for this sort of attack (if attack it was ofc!) is duping from to dupe - because it also involves other things like getting more in game currency, experience points etc.

Doesnt matter too much, isnt the english language a wonderfully imprecise tool.
 

suelothvar

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like we got duped into beliving we had 2 english servers, or the same standard of service as french germans?
 

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No idea what they actually are doing, but if they're really coming to the office at 9am eu time & waiting for the US devs or whoever to come in & chat to them at 3pm or whatever time (hypothetical anyway so not going to be exact here) then they're missing a trick.

We regularly change the working hours of our staff to suit workload (shared user national distribution centre), there's an agreement that if we need them at 6am, then they come in then & start their working day3 hours early - there's a fixed payment for this. Same if we need them to start at 12 midday, and the extra payment applies.
It doesn't happen *that* often, but when it does we always have a couple of volunteers, and some more who can be persuaded into suiting the work pattern. Out of hours is par for the course in many industries.

Likewise there's the question of why the contract doesn't include out of hours support for EU servers by our US friends - now this *really* should be looked into by GOA. There's no saying that the current issue couldn't have occurred across several or all EU servers - and by what we're being told Mythic have no obligation to help EU outside of their US working hours. And if the issue is only traceable/correctable by Mythic personnel, then theres certainly a support issue to be raised here for future reference. To be honest, disaster recovery in this instance has been pretty shoddy and thats one thing most of us can agree on.


Lots of 'ifs' but its my 2 penneth, not that it matters a jot...
 

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Give an additional level to all none-50 chars on Prydwen, imo.

I have a lvl 48 theurg, hrhr xD
 

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Gelid said:
Give an additional level to all none-50 chars on Prydwen, imo.

I have a lvl 48 theurg, hrhr xD

Solely compensensating in the manner you suggest, is not fair to the people who only have level 50 characters though.
 

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Gamah said:
It was a thursday, so it's been 7 days..but tallwiz likes to blow things up to make more drama!

it was last the 24th aug it went down, because they clustered french servers and was about to cluster english the 25th, so 8 days today.
 

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Oysterboy said:
Solely compensensating in the manner you suggest, is not fair to the people who only have level 50 characters though.

How about a non-tradeable non-sellable Artifact+scrolls+credit for free for a char to your choice?
 

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Gifv an NPC where you can choose one of for example: +1 level, a freely chosen artifact or a scroll, respec stones etc. :) 1 of your character can take 1 from these options :)
 

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Tafaya Anathas said:
Gifv an NPC where you can choose one of for example: +1 level, a freely chosen artifact or a scroll, respec stones etc. :) 1 of your character can take 1 from these options :)

yeh 1 free lev will make alllllllllllllll the difference, would been 50 by now if server didnt go poof :p
 

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givf everyone 40+ ML10 :)

but seriously, i know its been mentioned alot, but there gonna have to come up with something special on the compensation side for this :)
 

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suelothvar said:
yeh 1 free lev will make alllllllllllllll the difference, would been 50 by now if server didnt go poof :p

choose the one that's hardest to get for you ofc!

...and it should get instant-lvl10 of course! :D
 

kni

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nah, just give free days. Let people work for their exp+artis etc. to many PL'ed chars in the game already in my opinion ;)
 

suelothvar

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tbh I dont belive a word they have said anymore, untill i see server up and working, they are just sat drinking coffee ignoring the problem as there other servers are up and french cluster works so sod the brits.

just like the film says "we seek the grail" "go away smely knigit, we already got one"


pray this isnt the case though but it aint looking bright
 

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Gelid said:
Give an additional level to all none-50 chars on Prydwen, imo.

I have a lvl 48 theurg, hrhr xD

Well that would put 4 of mine out of thid.

No thanks but why not give 1 char of your choice /level 50. As im sure my reaver would be on his way to that by now as would my inf.

Now that would do me fine.
 

Mauness

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na, doubt id want a free 50 tbh.

I mainly play 1 50, and i know others that do so wouldnt compensate them then :)
 

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