DAoC, population. Requiel post here aswell.

Fahdlan

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Hi. I just posted this here since this is where we all troll about.

well here it goes.


I hate thinking of that this game is going down.

Maybe die.

And I wonder what will happen to the game,
to us players on prydwen/excalibur?

it is really annoying, playing something since the release, and suddenly everything we have played for, will be gone.

What will actully happen Requiel?

Will the game be gone forever, when the population goes down?

I feel like I have played the game for nothing, thinking about that it may die.

And all we got left, is memories.

But we have wasted maybe 5years for nothing?

Everyone here has supported the game.

About everyone has up to 2-4 accounts each.

And I'm not touching warhammer.
wowish, cartoonish, retardish, it is just not Dark Age of Camelot.

And I do think, most of us here, actully want some answers.
 

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I dont think that requiel can answer to that questions, he cant bring people back to the game, prolly the company could (ie. mythic?)
 

censi

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nothing is forever.

you can thank most of the lemons for a dead server (most of which have subsequently fucked off to US so they can do the same there)

daoc is really still the only mmrpg which offers a long term active PVP end game. Instead of promoting this though mythic still caters for the crap players who are only interested in a non-competative end game.

at the end of the day despite what the nice guy irls say, all everyone wants is a competative end game.

shake up the RVR dynamics to give this and people (mainly lemons) will come back.

keep daoc as it is (irvr add fest) and numbers will slowly continue to drop.

introduce an honor system create dynamic points of interest regardless of player activity. promote a solid playstyle. make the game less frustrating and more fun all round
 

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censi said:
nothing is forever.

you can thank most of the lemons for a dead server (most of which have subsequently fucked off to US so they can do the same there)

daoc is really still the only mmrpg which offers a long term active PVP end game. Instead of promoting this though mythic still caters for the crap players who are only interested in a non-competative end game.

at the end of the day despite what the nice guy irls say, all everyone wants is a competative end game.

shake up the RVR dynamics to give this and people (mainly lemons) will come back.

keep daoc as it is (irvr add fest) and numbers will slowly continue to drop.

introduce an honor system create dynamic points of interest regardless of player activity. promote a solid playstyle. make the game less frustrating and more fun all round


Going along the honor system I have an idea which would never get implemented because it requires mythic to actuallly do something:

Obviously the game knows when your in a full group and when you melee or nuke someone if that enemy memeber is in a fg.

Maybe when you set off for a run, the group leader would set a "task" kinda like realm missions but would only give them rps if they set it and only give the rps if they complete that mission" so they set to only kill fg's if they kill soloers they would get very very little rps.

And if a soloer selects to kill only soloers then they get larger amounts of rps for only killing soloers, they can choose to reduce their rps be protecting their kill, if someone hits that soloer they are killing they will get no rps. i.e. adding gets you no rps.

This could be implemented only in certain areas, thus soloers and fg's who want only solo and fg action could get it in these areas, just an idea
 

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nope if u segregate the RVR comunity its bad.

you have to change things to make RVR universally better, not just selectivly. IE dont cater for lame players in one way and good players another way. Penalise bad play, reward good play generally... at the moment they promote adding by the fact the adder gets RP. If they can figure out an intelligent way to penalise it we are cooking on gas. mind you this would be a bit of a shock to a lot of people, server numbers could go down even more with all the adders actually not getting RP. game would be better though.
 

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if you look at other servers things aren't actually that bad but the game is old now the population is bound to be low. War probably will finish daoc off, simply because it is a natural advancement in pvp style games. WoW doesnt count because that is pvp bolted onto a pve game. you have probably got about a year after the war release for daoc to be properly dead.
 

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censi said:
nothing is forever.

you can thank most of the lemons for a dead server (most of which have subsequently fucked off to US so they can do the same there)

daoc is really still the only mmrpg which offers a long term active PVP end game. Instead of promoting this though mythic still caters for the crap players who are only interested in a non-competative end game.

at the end of the day despite what the nice guy irls say, all everyone wants is a competative end game.

shake up the RVR dynamics to give this and people (mainly lemons) will come back.

keep daoc as it is (irvr add fest) and numbers will slowly continue to drop.

introduce an honor system create dynamic points of interest regardless of player activity. promote a solid playstyle. make the game less frustrating and more fun all round

It's not just down to "adders" or "zergers", to think that is short sighted.

Don't you think players trying to impose imaginary rules on other players, yelling at them for no good reason and generally taking the game way too seriously are amongst the reasons very few new players ever stay with DAoC? DAoC has become an old-boys club, lots of bad blood, no room for new players.

You only come across this crap on this cluster in this kind of concentration, is it any wonder no-one wants to stay here anymore?

People blame the AC raids, GOA's inept management, Mythics inability or unwillingness to promote the game, but fundimentally the players are the ones who make a game, they are the community. They are also the ones who can break it.

To save the cluster it is the players who must work to develop a more friendly community and a more holistic in-game atmosphere, that is the only way it will survive. Chances are, people won't change and the numbers will continue to drop.
 

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censi said:
game would be better though.

Game would be better for you.. probably not for the majority of it's players.
In order to survive the game needs new players, and they all leave after the first week having been abused for "adding", like everyone, even you did, when they started playing.

Fahdlan said:
And all we got left, is memories.

But we have wasted maybe 5years for nothing?

Go cancel your subs right now sir. If you think your doing anything at all in this game other than collecting memories and having fun doing it as you go along, your very sadly mistaken.
If you look back on it and think you've wasted 5 years, then yes you have! If you look back and say i've had 5 years of fun, made some mates and enjoyed the time I put into it, then you've not wasted it anymore than anything else you could of been doing.
 

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censi said:
... players who are only interested in a non-competative end game.
...
all everyone wants is a competative end game.

That sir, is a 1st class contradiction in terms.
+1 for self-pwnage :)
 

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Fahdlan said:
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But we have wasted maybe 5years for nothing?

short answere....tatatatatat...... YES

its a ending game....so maybe your time is better spent in the real world..think about how many money you could have beeen earned in spending your time into your work or in wich phenomenal physical constitution you would be if you would have done some training in the time spent into DAOC.
....or if you would have spent the time with your family or friends.
 

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That sir, is a 1st class contradiction in terms.
+1 for self-pwnage

/glasses

what im saying you lemon is that the current scenario promotes adding, which in turn promotes a non competative end game. EG you are fighting, its good fun its close its testing you, its a good opponent... ooo wtf wheres my health going ooo dead... pan round caster standing there, /hugs you for his 300 RP. This isnt rewarding to the adder or to the people whos fights are ruined.

Whereas if you get to complete the fight win, loose or get wtfpwned, at least you had a competative encounter, that kind of drives you to stay competative, keep your toon maxed out play the game etc...

All players want a competative PVP end game whether they admit it or not. Its just if you "promote" (ie reward with RP) players who disrupt the competative element, then ofc all the lemons (who are really nice guys irl and just play for fun casually, dont take the game to seriously) are gonna add kill things on site just for the RP. Thats what I mean when I say players who are interested in a non competative end game.
 

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Alexandrinus said:
short answere....tatatatatat...... YES

its a ending game....so maybe your time is better spent in the real world..think about how many money you could have beeen earned in spending your time into your work or in wich phenomenal physical constitution you would be if you would have done some training in the time spent into DAOC.
....or if you would have spent the time with your family or friends.

How about us who actually have a nice job and make enough money to take care of wife and kids, that just simply really enjoy some relaxment from rl from time to time? Should i also spend more time in the real world c'mon that remark u pulled of there is just to teenage for me to take serius.
 

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censi said:
nothing is forever.

you can thank most of the lemons for a dead server (most of which have subsequently fucked off to US so they can do the same there)

daoc is really still the only mmrpg which offers a long term active PVP end game. Instead of promoting this though mythic still caters for the crap players who are only interested in a non-competative end game.

at the end of the day despite what the nice guy irls say, all everyone wants is a competative end game.

shake up the RVR dynamics to give this and people (mainly lemons) will come back.

keep daoc as it is (irvr add fest) and numbers will slowly continue to drop.

introduce an honor system create dynamic points of interest regardless of player activity. promote a solid playstyle. make the game less frustrating and more fun all round

You really are a clueless ****!
 

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Danord_durin said:
How about us who actually have a nice job and make enough money to take care of wife and kids, that just simply really enjoy some relaxment from rl from time to time? Should i also spend more time in the real world c'mon that remark u pulled of there is just to teenage for me to take serius.

He was refering to the thread starter that think he wasted 5 years.

Its the whiners and elite people that force people into a specific play style that ruin daoc. Sure i liked running FG in old days, or solo. But i also remember the first year or zerg fest and how fun that was.

These days if you doesnt run Fg or solo you get so much abuse that the game stop being a relaxing experience.
The majority of players doesnt realy want a challenge, they want something to let them slip away from reality a while and chill.

Cens not to be evil or hurt you but its mainly people like you that does destroy the games you play in.
Was much more fun when it wasnt so serious as it become the last 1-2 years.
 

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Aqe said:
He was refering to the thread starter that think he wasted 5 years.

Yes i noticed but im so tired of the same 10 form of replies peps can manage to spam here so couldn't ressist saying a little something. In my eys its sounded like the usual i quit daoc so now im doing all the healthy stuff. And all that most lilkely is going on, is abit of clapping himself on the back for not hitting daoc icon but all the rest on his pc:)
 

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Danord_durin said:
Yes i noticed but im so tired of the same 10 form of replies peps can manage to spam here so couldn't ressist saying a little something. In my eys its sounded like the usual i quit daoc so now im doing all the healthy stuff. And all that most lilkely is going on, is abit of clapping himself on the back for not hitting daoc icon but all the rest on his pc:)

Well most people need to write these things so they see it and acknowledge it. Thats the first step of ending a bad addiction.

However there is people (like you perhaps) that can hold a healthy distance to the game and have a normal social life on the side.

A thought i just got. I seems like the more addicted to the game you are the more serious it becomes as if you truly stuck it actualy define who you are.
 

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Aqe said:
Well most people need to write these things so they see it and acknowledge it. Thats the first step of ending a bad addiction.

However there is people (like you perhaps) that can hold a healthy distance to the game and have a normal social life on the side.

U really belive writing things like that on a muppet forum would help anyone, i highly doubt that. But if someone is desperate enough over his addiction well so be it. Feel free to post the lot of u, i have quit so im fotm now but i still miss the game so i spam a forum, u won't see 1 bad comment from me again.:fluffle:
 

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Danord_durin said:
U really belive writing things like that on a muppet forum would help anyone, i highly doubt that. But if someone is desperate enough over his addiction well so be it. Feel free to post the lot of u, i have quit so im fotm now but i still miss the game so i spam a forum, u won't see 1 bad comment from me again.:fluffle:

Hey wasnt flaming you :fluffle:

I quit 2 years ago, restarted recently and quit again this week :)

Also missing the fun i had and no game will probably be as fun (and addicting) as daoc was for me the first 2 years.
 

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Cens not to be evil or hurt you but its mainly people like you that does destroy the games you play in.

yer its so destructive to NOT attack someone who is already fighting... I can really appreciate how that just leaves players with a nasty taste in their mouth and makes them hatefull and agressive towards the community and the game in general.

on the other hand mr doorstep add caster who /rude's or /rofl spams all encounters he distrupts actually promotes light hearted fun and an all round sense of online well being....
 

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Who are you, to talk about doorstepping censi? you cause doorstepping:wanker: 75% of you fights on your vids are on a dam bridge lol:) and i think the other guy means the fact, people like you that pm all to grieve them about how your play stlye must be:twak: and also what kills this game are cross-realmers, folk that can play all realms got no love for 1 realm therefore not giving a shit about any comnunity:) so get board then leave.
 

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censi said:
yer its so destructive to NOT attack someone who is already fighting... I can really appreciate how that just leaves players with a nasty taste in their mouth and makes them hatefull and agressive towards the community and the game in general.

on the other hand mr doorstep add caster who /rude's or /rofl spams all encounters he distrupts actually promotes light hearted fun and an all round sense of online well being....

Who the fack are YOU to tell ME not to attack an enemy?!

if i dont want i wont, if i want i will

end of story.

surly ur not in my No-add list xD
 

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ok, all hate adders.
but, what happened to me:
i see a realmmate fighting, he is losing, but i let it happen. He dies, I let the opponent regenerate HP and we have a nice fight.
I'm about to win, he vanishes and other stealther finishes me me off.
so, after that i found it hard not to add.

and btw, I would always add on a BD, lock of vamp
 

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pip said:
Who are you, to talk about doorstepping censi? you cause doorstepping:wanker: 75% of you fights on your vids are on a dam bridge lol:)
well thats kinda cos its there the action is with this low pop and because most ppl cba to leave the brigde, then u actualy have to move in and kill...

pip said:
and also what kills this game are cross-realmers, folk that can play all realms got no love for 1 realm therefore not giving a shit about any comnunity:) so get board then leave.
lol so u cant play more than 1 realm or u get bored... i play mid and alb cos im sometimes bored of playing 1 realm so i log on the other realm a few weeks, its not the other way around...
 

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>.< Pooned said:
Who the fack are YOU to tell ME not to attack an enemy?!

if i dont want i wont, if i want i will

end of story.

surly ur not in my No-add list xD
actualy if u just bloody took the time to read what he said it makes sence, as he was defending his pov! he didnt say u must not, just saying that if u dont attack its not considerd to be destructive behavior... so keep reading into it and see what u wanna see...

and lol u with a no-add list? rofl...
 

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trycorn said:
lol so u cant play more than 1 realm or u get bored... i play mid and alb cos im sometimes bored of playing 1 realm so i log on the other realm a few weeks, its not the other way around...

well in 1 side i can defend pip in this 1. realm spirit as he states is something that this game lost since cluster.

the fun we had all to kill hibs mids albs is gone maybe because now they are guildies friends that helped us to build our toon when was needed pve from the other side.

kinda hard to explain my pov its like a real war and u fighting with both sides u cant enjoy killing 1 side because u feel sry for the other too.

from tyrox's pov i understand the need to play more than 1 realm cause of many difrent things, classes , areas , people , attitude sometimes.

for me both are correct. well daoc is so complicated game dont u think? :p
 

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trycorn said:
actualy if u just bloody took the time to read what he said it makes sence, as he was defending his pov! he didnt say u must not, just saying that if u dont attack its not considerd to be destructive behavior... so keep reading into it and see what u wanna see...

and lol u with a no-add list? rofl...


ok ok i dont have any xd just some nice guys that i dont add or kill :>

and his pov is that everyone that will add in my fight is/are lemon(s) so wtf im trying to accompolish here? im a lemon anyways. ADD CENSI FTW! :worthy:
 

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censi said:
yer its so destructive to NOT attack someone who is already fighting... I can really appreciate how that just leaves players with a nasty taste in their mouth and makes them hatefull and agressive towards the community and the game in general

For many people this is the case. People who play the game (I know it's crazy but here it is anyway) as a realm versus realm computer game where killing your "enemy" is the idea. Yes, those people do get thoroughly pissed off that someone who's supposed to be on their "side" doesn't join them in killing an "enemy". I know, I know... it's wild and whacky that people are still doing that and don't realise the game is actually a virtual cock fight, but there it is. In fact they MUST be lemons for not changing how they play the game from when (and why) they first bought it, but life is wierd like that. I guess when you leave home and stuff you'll discover that for yourself instead of having to take this particular lemon's word for it. :fluffle:
 

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Amusing to see all the zergers/adders saying its the people that respect other players and dont zerg down everything in sight for every ounce of rps that are destroying the game.
But ofc, its against the spirit of the game not to attack ENEMIES!!1111 IF ITS RED ITS DED OSV!111111111111

Sure, the game has changed loads the last 2 years or so, but in my book it's changed for the better. The mutual respect that some players and most fg's show to eachother is one of the things that makes this game such a good game in my opinion.
Mindless zerging and adding to milk out as many rps as you can might be fun for some people but thats not the way i and many others want to play this game. :)

Quite amusing to hear the crowd playing 'the way its supposed to be played' calling the fg'ers and soloers rp horny elitist bastards when infact its the people that want fair fights that are passing on rps to get just that, fair and even fights. :)
 

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