DAOC new Server time OLD OF no TOA/DR/LOTM

[Orenthal]

Also voted, I would come back for this.

 

[Delrith]

on my way there

 

[Zedenz]

People still playing DAoC!?

Am I the only one who actually thought TOA was a GOOD thing....

 

[Naffets]

People still playing DAoC!?

Am I the only one who actually thought TOA was a GOOD thing....

Yes?

 

[Imgormiel]

I'd play on it...as long as you dont have to wait 15 minutes to port into Frontiers lol.

I think they should have SI classes and zones but but anything after SI should be left out.

STFU and get some IRL sweetass pussy imo! xD

 

[Iceforge]

Is it just me or is this WAY to little WAY to late?

I mean, the game was completely ruined for many of us several years ago, our mains we loved was suddenly put into a system in which it was hopeless for us to have fun, and instead in attempts to get to have fun, we meet basicly endless frustrations with the new forced content of ToA, without which you could not compete.

Now, several years later, after I completely stopped playing DAoC, even on freeshards where the system was ALMOST like what they want on this new server, they offer it, but still just the server. The characters you had back then are still lost and you would have to start all over from scratch with a new character on this server, working your way through those 50 levels...

Nah, way way way to little way way way to late for it to make me willing to give them money. Got better things to spend my time at than spending weeks infront of the comp just to get a character to the point where I can have as much fun with his as I used to be able to with my toons before the launch of ToA

 

[BloodOmen]

Is it just me or is this WAY to little WAY to late?

I mean, the game was completely ruined for many of us several years ago, our mains we loved was suddenly put into a system in which it was hopeless for us to have fun, and instead in attempts to get to have fun, we meet basicly endless frustrations with the new forced content of ToA, without which you could not compete.

Now, several years later, after I completely stopped playing DAoC, even on freeshards where the system was ALMOST like what they want on this new server, they offer it, but still just the server. The characters you had back then are still lost and you would have to start all over from scratch with a new character on this server, working your way through those 50 levels...

Nah, way way way to little way way way to late for it to make me willing to give them money. Got better things to spend my time at than spending weeks infront of the comp just to get a character to the point where I can have as much fun with his as I used to be able to with my toons before the launch of ToA

Agree with some of what you say.. BUT you gotta remember every single player in the world is in the same boat its not like you have to start from scratch and be instantly pitted against RR13 groups.

I'm looking forward to the server despite them ruining my mains with the launch of TOA etc end of the day fresh start back into a server type that we all loved despite the companies flaws.

Some of the above say "Oh lets just go play shards its no different" it clearly is. Freeshards offer instant level50 on a NONE DEDICATED server.. which means you could spend weeks playing it building up a character and poof the server could go down just like that... not to mention the dozens of corrupt GM's, modded characters and cheaters.

I welcome the idea of a DEDICATED Old Frontier server with open arms.


Edit: On a side note! when/if this is confirmed anyone interested in forming a MID lvling party with Myself + Trollum? we'll prob go for some old style PBT/pbaoe leveling party setup (aka fast+safe)

 

[atos]

Hm, I wanna roll thane. Its tempting! Atleast if they keep the old boosts in stormcalling.

I support Bloodomen will keep me posted on how much people we find. Is it decided if there is going to be a server on EU and one on US? Or is it only US atm?

 

[eksdee]

I will never play it. DAoC was at it best classic to release of ToA. No gaming experience for me will ever compare to DAoC back then. Certainly not this ill conceived attempt to milk one last dime from DAoC. I would rather leave my memories of the green rolling hills of emain as they are.

quoted for truth.

 

[BloodOmen]

quoted for truth.

Quoted for truth indeed still doesn't change the fact there is indeed an OF server in the works. I couldn't give a toss about my OF memories tbh I just want to play it one last time on a dedicated server ran by a proper company as apose to playing it on radarshards before warhammer comes out

And thats $ I don't mind paying to do so.

 

[gunmannnnn]

bit late i could sayuke:
tho i voted positive

 

[eble@work]

OF with my ranger was the best, with the stealth system as it and the archer nerfs no point trying this one.

All in all too about 2/3 years too late.

Shame cos I would have tried this one.

Eble

 

[GReaper]

Looks like they're going ahead with it:

Letter From The Producer
Origins' Server Type Overview

 

[Cadelin]

Looks like they're going ahead with it:

Letter From The Producer
Origins' Server Type Overview

Just wait for the whine about it not being proper OF.....

 

[Zedenz]

Just wait for the whine about it not being proper OF.....

I can see their reasons behind trying to bring some balance, but personally...removing the theurg and adding its abilities elsewhere?

Surely thats just going to anger a lot of old Thuerg players and Albs in general.

I don't know about you guys, but the vast diversity in the 3 realms is what I enjoyed about DAoC, it really felt like a different experience for each side, with 3 totally different socitieis. Even the sort of people that played each realm appeared different in their own persona.

So even though it wasn't totally balanced, it was just alot more interesting and gave you something to fight against "the evil imbalance!".

I enjoyed WoW, but hated that Alliance and Horde were just the same but with different models.

It seems to me that the European opinion (or at least the English speaking servers) favours a return to the exact model of OF. The Americans however, who most likely are forwarding the majority of the feedback, may think differently.

I was sort of interested in checking this out, but I don't feel like playing a heavily modded version as it would just feel like the classic servers to me. New Frontiers RA's are fine, and some of the fixes under the hood, but modding the classes themselves...meh.

I think a previous poster was probably spot on when he said "a New 5 year old version of DAoC". Pony.

 

[Zede]

Looks like they're going ahead with it:

Letter From The Producer
Origins' Server Type Overview

for 90% of the time i played Albion was the weaker side overall. And they want to remove theurgs and GIVE mid the Valk ?

Pop for new server unless they fix it :

Mid : 70%
Hib : 20%
Alb : 10%

 

[Cadelin]

for 90% of the time i played Albion was the weaker side overall. And they want to remove theurgs and GIVE mid the Valk ?

LOL.

Alb has always had the highest populations. Whatever Mythic have done and on whatever server albs dominate.
Just look at the pop bonus

You have no justification for saying that Albion is the weaker side. Infact if anything people tend to play the strongest classes which would indicate Albion is the strongest. As far as I am aware you only seriously played Alb so I can't see how you can pass comment.

 

[Zede]

LOL.

Alb has always had the highest populations. Whatever Mythic have done and on whatever server albs dominate.
Just look at the pop bonus

You have no justification for saying that Albion is the weaker side. Infact if anything people tend to play the strongest classes which would indicate Albion is the strongest. As far as I am aware you only seriously played Alb so I can't see how you can pass comment.

Their are countless threads on the RvR forum going back...oh since 2004 regarding realm balance. Alb certainly had the numbers, but lets say for instance in the competative 8v8, alb for most patches throughout DaoCs history until I stopped playing - were slightly weaker. A slight weakness can be exploited time and time again, and it was.

Seriously know wtf your talking about first, having a constant zerg (as alb did) does not mean they had the strongest classes..are u really so dumb you 20 people explaining it to you ?

 

[Gahn]

Can't remember a great unbalance 8vs8 wise tbh, FL PE etc well demonstrated that Alb could be competitive and effective.
Also the fact that they won't revert back pretty much anything apart the Map and watering down a bit CC should assure us lot about this problem.

 

[noaim]

Can't remember a great unbalance 8vs8 wise tbh, FL PE etc well demonstrated that Alb could be competitive and effective.
Also the fact that they won't revert back pretty much anything apart the Map and watering down a bit CC should assure us lot about this problem.

There was a great unbalance, not in classes though but in players.

 

[Dreamor]

I always remember there being an even number near the start of DAOC, slightly more Albs after a few months. As it went on though the Alb presence was easily 4 times more than the 2nd realm (be that Mid or Hib)

I'd play/resub for the 'classic' server. Without being able to load the Herald, I wonder if anyone has asked if the 'classic' realm abilities are going to make a re-appearance? What was that nice little scout RA that allowed you to view all stealthers within a certain range? used to love that

 

[Cadelin]

Their are countless threads on the RvR forum going back...oh since 2004 regarding realm balance. Alb certainly had the numbers, but lets say for instance in the competative 8v8, alb for most patches throughout DaoCs history until I stopped playing - were slightly weaker. A slight weakness can be exploited time and time again, and it was.

Seriously know wtf your talking about first, having a constant zerg (as alb did) does not mean they had the strongest classes..are u really so dumb you 20 people explaining it to you ?

Wow, a forum whine thread really proves your point... All it proves is there are more whiners in Albion which is normal considering they have the majority of the populations.

There will always be small imbalances in the game. Given there are 3 realms, if each realm fields their strongest setup, the majority of the time your realm will not be the strongest. Thats normal!

One final point. pre-ToA was not about competitive 8v8 fights at all. I am sure there were a few but in general it was zergs, stealth zergs and keep fights, in these fights albion has a massive advantage from numbers + extra range their classes have.

 

[Gahn]

There was a great unbalance, not in classes though but in players.

That would have always been the case, no matter which ruleset.

 

[GReaper]

I'd consider it, but I've got too many concerns.

Timing is awful. WAR is supposed to be coming out in Q4 2008, so if this server type does get any population they might just move on quickly. Populations of existing servers are bad enough already, adding another server will just cause more problems unless loads of old players return.

Will GOA bother with it? If they do then what are the chances that it'll be in English? Most English speaking players would probably find it easier to just roll on this new server when it gets launched in the US instead of waiting months for translation - causing yet more population problems for EU servers.

 

[Dreamor]

I'd consider it, but I've got too many concerns.

Timing is awful. WAR is supposed to be coming out in Q4 2008, so if this server type does get any population they might just move on quickly. Populations of existing servers are bad enough already, adding another server will just cause more problems unless loads of old players return.

Will GOA bother with it? If they do then what are the chances that it'll be in English? Most English speaking players would probably find it easier to just roll on this new server when it gets launched in the US instead of waiting months for translation - causing yet more population problems for EU servers.

The whole idea sounds like a stop gap, not everyone has jumped on the Conan train and with the next Expansion for WoW and LOTRO some months off, people are wanting to fill the gap. I think its not a bad idea to give it a try, but it really depends on when the EU server/version goes live otherwise its a waste of resource. Don't forget that when WAR goes live the DAOC servers won't just stop working, it all depends on the subscriptions GOA have open. Your probably only seeing 10-20% of the total player base a night right now (guesstimate only.)

I'm waiting for WAR really though

 

[Zede]

Wow, a forum whine thread really proves your point... All it proves is there are more whiners in Albion which is normal considering they have the majority of the populations.

There will always be small imbalances in the game. Given there are 3 realms, if each realm fields their strongest setup, the majority of the time your realm will not be the strongest. Thats normal!

One final point. pre-ToA was not about competitive 8v8 fights at all. I am sure there were a few but in general it was zergs, stealth zergs and keep fights, in these fights albion has a massive advantage from numbers + extra range their classes have.

lol, u have no idea.

having a go because im whining ? thats a strong arguement, im truly hurt.

you said albion was the strongest, now your saying we were not. make your mind up please ?

5 nights a week, Forgotten Legends, Public Enemies, Angels of Darkness. About 5 other guilds also ran set rvr grps, but less regularly. Mids & hibs did the same. Fuck me - its the " classic " daoc time period that everyone wants, when competitive rvr was suggposedly at its finest. So your saying you want to back to OF for the zergs ? you dont get it do you.

 

[OohhoO]

I don't think there's really a genuine point to be made about Alb classes having been weakest at that point in DAoCs history.

The point was that Hib & Mid were far weaker in terms of numbers so they were forced to concentrate on their strengths & be much more organised than Albs in order to compete.

I'm sure many Hibs/Mids from that time can remember being in well organised groups picking off the constant stream of Albs leaving AMG in ones & twos whilst 20-30 more Albs were afk or just waiting at AMG. If the Albs had been as organised as Hibs/Mids it would have been a whitewash, but the point is, they didn't NEED to be as organised as Hibs/Mids were, so they weren't.

Dementi: I was playing US servers at that time, so I have no idea how it was on the Euro servers, but that's how it was on the US servers.

 

[Cadelin]

lol, u have no idea.

having a go because im whining ? thats a strong arguement, im truly hurt.

you said albion was the strongest, now your saying we were not. make your mind up please ?

5 nights a week, Forgotten Legends, Public Enemies, Angels of Darkness. About 5 other guilds also ran set rvr grps, but less regularly. Mids & hibs did the same. Fuck me - its the " classic " daoc time period that everyone wants, when competitive rvr was suggposedly at its finest. So your saying you want to back to OF for the zergs ? you dont get it do you.

I didn't say Albion was the strongest I said Albion was the most populated and backed it up with evidence. I have tried to avoid giving any opinion on realm balance in 8v8 fights because its an argument nobody can win. I did point out that alb does has a significant advantage in zerg fights.

I am not saying I want OF back at all, infact I don't want it back. It was shit compared to games we have now and you are just seeing it through some extremely rose tinted glasses.

 

[BloodOmen]

Give server :<

 

[Zedenz]

I'd consider it, but I've got too many concerns.

Timing is awful. WAR is supposed to be coming out in Q4 2008, so if this server type does get any population they might just move on quickly. Populations of existing servers are bad enough already, adding another server will just cause more problems unless loads of old players return.

Will GOA bother with it? If they do then what are the chances that it'll be in English? Most English speaking players would probably find it easier to just roll on this new server when it gets launched in the US instead of waiting months for translation - causing yet more population problems for EU servers.

As usual GReaper is spot on.

Probably would of been more prudent to announce this at the start of the year, would of given people something to do for 6 months at least before Conan/WAR.