Daoc gonna fade away?

CliffyG

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Not going to bother with WoW but will certainly be playing EQ2, think i'll still pop into DAoC every now and again though.
 

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Heard it all before with SwG.

99.9999999999999999999% of the daoc community were like "OMG SwG gonna be ace, im never playin DAoC again" etc etc

2 months later they all came back, tails between legs
 

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Marc said:
Heard it all before with SwG.

99.9999999999999999999% of the daoc community were like "OMG SwG gonna be ace, im never playin DAoC again" etc etc

2 months later they all came back, tails between legs

true, but at least we all knew (those not blinded) that swg was gonna be TERRIBLE :p
 

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Lian said:
Been told by someone in alpha that it's dull dull dull.

At the end of the day you need to judge it for yourself, it isn't going to cost you a bean to try the beta so there is nothing to lose.
 

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the WoW PvP seems to have its fault, mainly the rule about only being allowed to attack an area, dying and coming back 2 times before you have to give up. They have already admitted that in PvP many people will be drawn to the alliance side over the hord.
 

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Balbor said:
the WoW PvP seems to have its fault, mainly the rule about only being allowed to attack an area, dying and coming back 2 times before you have to give up. They have already admitted that in PvP many people will be drawn to the alliance side over the hord.

you mean like people will be drawn to albion instead of hib? :flame:

nothing new there, and it will be fun fighting as the "underdog" :cheers:
 

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Looking forward to the release of WoW here, I'll give the free month a try but if everything I've heard about the player is true, I imagine I'll be scarpering back here once the free month is up. Had enough of the 1337 dudes on Bnet and apparently the WoW beta, so far, is full of em.

Of course the plus side to all of this is that the 1337 dudes here, especially on Excal, look to comprise the vast majority of people moving to WoW. They are too leet for this game now and so off they go. It may get a little quiet in DAoC for a while, but it will be heaven for those of us who stay.

Eventually the nice people who left for WoW, but found the game insufficiently alluring when compared to having to deal with a huge number of 1337 on a daily basis will return and we will have a gaming nirvarna.
 

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Sendraks said:
Looking forward to the release of WoW here, I'll give the free month a try but if everything I've heard about the player is true, I imagine I'll be scarpering back here once the free month is up. Had enough of the 1337 dudes on Bnet and apparently the WoW beta, so far, is full of em.

they dont have to pay for the beta though, wonder how many will be able to get their parents to pay for it ;)

oh and thats all US, europe is different!!! (or at least we can hope so :D )
 

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Sendraks said:
Eventually the nice people who left for WoW, but found the game insufficiently alluring when compared to having to deal with a huge number of 1337 on a daily basis will return and we will have a gaming nirvarna.

what exactly are 1337 players anyway? the stereotypical "omg pwns j00" CS kids who also say 'lol' every sentence or players who just play 24/7?
 

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Most people that try WoW will say it's amazing and spam screenshots for 8 weeks then return saying it was boring and they missed DAOC.
 

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Hard to say if I'm gonna abandon this for a game I've never played before, but I'll certainly be buying it - and EQ2 for that matter.

As for the other mmorpg's "looming on the horizon" which would they be?


Dragon Empires - cancelled

Ultima X - cancelled

Mythica - cancelled

Warhammer Online - cancelled

Saga of Ryzom - postponed again fortunately

Middle Earth Online & Dungeons and Dragons Online - months (practically years) away. both by Turbine (remember Asheron's Call 2? nuff said)

City of Heroes, Final Fantasy, Lineage 2 - already out in the US, just get them imported or pay online. Well, get CoH imported anyway.

Various other games by companies nobody's ever heard of - yeah right.
 

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As for the other mmorpg's "looming on the horizon" which would they be?


Various other games by companies nobody's ever heard of - yeah right.


Guildwars, Dark and Light, Vanguard and thats just 3 off the top of my head. As for the 'companies nobody's ever heard of' comment, what major success's did Mythic have before DAoC? Track record is a good indicator for future performance but it certainly doesn't mean that a new developer can't come along and succeed now does it? Oh and the 3 games I have listed above all have developers that have worked for big development houses such as Blizzard, Lucasarts, Bioware and EA. The companies may not have a track record but the staff certainly do.
 

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starr said:
Dragon Empires - cancelled

Ultima X - cancelled

Mythica - cancelled

Warhammer Online - cancelled

Saga of Ryzom - postponed again fortunately

Middle Earth Online & Dungeons and Dragons Online - months (practically years) away. both by Turbine (remember Asheron's Call 2? nuff said)

City of Heroes, Final Fantasy, Lineage 2 - already out in the US, just get them imported or pay online. Well, get CoH imported anyway.

Various other games by companies nobody's ever heard of - yeah right.
From what ive heard from certain sources Warhammer Online is proberly going to be picked up by NCSoft at an attempt to break into the european market.
The work on Dragon Empires proberbly won't be scrapped altogether, they'll more than likely keep the designs and work they had up to that point and carry it on at a later date when its more viable for codemasters.

Final Fantasy came out on friday in the UK btw.
Back to the topic - I would imagine most long term Daoc players will keep there accounts whilst they try out WoW for a few months. Personally even if I did move their I would still carry on with my Daoc sub as i'll still play it now and then. Diffrence between SWG and WoW is that SWG was hyped up to the hilt, being starwars everyone fanboy and his dog migrated there, until they realised it was shit. Having played WoW for a few weeks, I can honestly say it's got plenty of content and stuff to do to keep someone occupied for quite a while, and the PvP aspect seems quite intresting.
 
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Marc said:
Heard it all before with SwG.

99.9999999999999999999% of the daoc community were like "OMG SwG gonna be ace, im never playin DAoC again" etc etc

2 months later they all came back, tails between legs

that argument doesnt hold any water... i knew from the start SWG was a blatant license rip-off.. i mean ffs who gives a mmorpg to Lucasarts...

Wow will be different... for one its not starwars... 2. its not DAOC and those that have played DAOC for long enuff will be eager for something different.. i know i am.. 3. the PvE grind doesnt exist like it does in DAOC.. which for the most is the worst part of DAOC.. fekking hate levelling in DAOC and losing XP when u die...its so demoralising seeing the 3-4 bubs you spent 6 hours getting going in under 10mins... when someone lags or ld's and draws aggro.

I for one cant wait for WoW.. gonna be better than this old heap of shit we pay for now.. and look the servers arnt run by GOA!! :cheers:
 

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I can't help but laugh when I see people say WoW will be balanced 'because Blizzard balances their games'. The only reasonably balanced game they ever released was Starcraft.

Diablo 1: good game, but balanced, don't make me laugh.
Diablo 2: kinda lousy game, balance non existant.
Early Warcrafts: were mostly balanced because the sides were 90% identical.
Warcraft 3: not quite so balanced as Starcraft.

If I see any trend here, it's not towards balanced gameplay. Their RTS does a lot better than their RPGs but that doesn't bode well for WoW.
On top of that their programming has always sucked so hard Mythic can't even hope to compete on the suckiness scale.

Things change and I could be wrong, but until I see and experience it with my own eyes I won't be losing any sleep over WoW.
 

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Yet another stupid thread about some game that will kill DAoC. How many times have we seen this thread? I can think of atleast ShadowBane and SWG, probably more but can't remember now.

There is always the excitement and freshness of the new game that will appeal to most people. It will pass sooner or later. In the end, it's about the playability, content and end game. WoW will probably be quite unpolished esp. in the end game, as most people will not even reach the level cap in the beta. In the end, many people will return because they find DAoC to be better in some ways. Equally many might leave for WoW or just quit playing both games. Others will take their place.

Look at EQ/UO etc. The games have been running for years. I bet many "prophets" posted similar threads in the forums when DAoC came out... And look at what happened. People are still playing both.
 

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Sarnat said:
Yet another stupid thread about some game that will kill DAoC. How many times have we seen this thread? I can think of atleast ShadowBane and SWG, probably more but can't remember now.

There is always the excitement and freshness of the new game that will appeal to most people. It will pass sooner or later. In the end, it's about the playability, content and end game. WoW will probably be quite unpolished esp. in the end game, as most people will not even reach the level cap in the beta. In the end, many people will return because they find DAoC to be better in some ways. Equally many might leave for WoW or just quit playing both games. Others will take their place.

Look at EQ/UO etc. The games have been running for years. I bet many "prophets" posted similar threads in the forums when DAoC came out... And look at what happened. People are still playing both.


From the stress test WoW was very polished to me, fact is SW:G and Shadowbane were are a load of poo, but WoW is looking to be a major mmorpg.

People dident know much about SW:G untill release, due to NDA, but since Blizzard is not using one, it changes alot of thing, and from what i've seen so far i think WoW will have a impact on most mmorpg's subs in someway or form.

But am not saying it will Terminate other mmorpg's.
 

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starr said:
Saga of Ryzom - postponed again fortunately
Wasn't this released on Sept. 16th?

City of Heroes, Final Fantasy, Lineage 2 - already out in the US, just get them imported or pay online. Well, get CoH imported anyway.
FFXI was released in Europe on Sept. 16th. New huge expansion included.
 

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Thorarin said:
On top of that their programming has always sucked so hard Mythic can't even hope to compete on the suckiness scale.

Things change and I could be wrong
You're quite right (about being wrong).
 

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So long as new content arrives at reasonable intervals and Mythic keep refining the RvR balance, DAoC has a long life ahead of it.

Its just unreasonable to expect people to stick to one game slavishly forever. Some will try WoW and find they hate it, heading straight back. Some will really like it and close DAoC accounts or accounts in other games.
 

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Elendar said:
i think the main problem for doac is that with toa mythic have killed of any real chance of getting new players into the game, it takes so long now that theres no real point starting another char, or a new player starting unless you have a lot of time to put in

Really? I just started :/

Should I just quit now?
 

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Really? I just started :/

Should I just quit now?
No, by all means, continue. :) Always refreshing to hear about new players.
 

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Please oh please forum Mod types, give this "OMG QUIT DAOC FOR WOW!!" users somewhere to go, this is fast becoming "WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW oh and DAoC" forum.

As many have already said, DAoC has a lot of life left in it, wait for NF here, its new, different and will give people something fresh to play with. Then Catacombes when that arrives. DAoC has changed one hell of a lot since 1.38 when it hit our shores, and while other games try the same "addon frenzie" hardly any of them actually pull the interest back into the game.

SWG was pants, period, yet for months threads exactly the same as this popped up. Get over it and stop asking the same annoying questions over and over again, its sick and you need to get out more. DAoC will survive and not have any major damage dealt by any game for 2 main reasons:

1) Gameplay and variablilty.
2) The community.

The latter is the most important, Mythic timed it right to get DAoC out and establish a player base that would bind together, make freinds, and keep each other playing, in reality the gameplay could probably go to pot and we would keep playing just to keep in with our new found freinds. Ok, that maybe a little over the top, but its relevant. Ask most ppl who have returned from any other game why they did, if they are honest, its because they missed their team m8s.

Yes a few will leave, most of the hardcore 24/7 l33t chavs will go just so they can wtfpwn you all over again in a new game, then probably come back here point proven. Yes a few others will play along side DAoC, but if their m8s dont go there too, they too will cancel their subs.

Instead of asking again, just wait and see.
 

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cHodAX said:
Oh and the 3 games I have listed above all have developers that have worked for big development houses such as Blizzard, Lucasarts, Bioware and EA. The companies may not have a track record but the staff certainly do.

Firstly Vanguard's hardly imminent.

Secondly it's not about how good the developers are it's whether they have the financial backing to finish the game, get the servers in place and survive the first year - see Horizons.


Whisperess said:
Wasn't this (Saga of Ryzom) released on Sept. 16th?

FFXI was released in Europe on Sept. 16th. New huge expansion included.


Official release date on SoR was Sep 1st which it didn't make, certainly haven't seen it around - if it was released on the 16th, no doubt due to management pressure as by my reckoning the games about a year away from playable.

as for FFXI as I understand there were 2 expansions with the UK release, the 1st of which I already had and the 2nd one would have to be sommat special to make me go near it again.
 

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Won't be leaving for something with cartoony gfx no matter how good gameplay is expected to be. All that I want from WoW is for it to syphon away the leets from DAoC.
 

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same old people
same old whine
same old conclusion
Undoubtedly some people will leave (just like swg)
they will play for some months get bored come back for rvr (jut like swg)
and this whine has been done before countless times (just like swg)

The game wont die just yet (still going strong in the US for example) there will be a reduced population which is a good thing imo but like b4 i think most will return
 

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Look at games like UO etc. They will linger on, grow and allmost die, but they will still be there. Things will change but is that bad?
 

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