Politics Coronavirus

[gunner440]

Yea! No wait I haven't got kids...

Kids in Spain to Finally Be Allowed Out for Walks After April 27 and Sanchez Gives Residents an Update on the De-Escalation Phase - Euro Weekly News Spain Spain News Article

Not quite what we wanted but it seems there's some light at the end of the tunnel!

 

[Yoni]

Did anyone watch
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_4DuglJkQ

 

[~Yuckfou~]

Explain this Boris..

Coronavirus: Govt 'lost a crucial five weeks' to tackle threat of COVID-19

 

[Embattle]

Did anyone watch
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_4DuglJkQ

Nope, I'm not a big one for celebrities at the best of times let alone having to suffer them in a crisis.

 

[Yoni]

some of it was quite good

 

[caLLous]

New MIT machine learning model shows relaxing quarantine rules will spike COVID-19 cases

 

[Wij]

Too busy sorting out his personal life:


View: https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1251563504118771712

 

[Scouse]

Too busy sorting out his personal life:


View: https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1251563504118771712

Shush @Wij. Pointing out political failings which have lead to a lot of avoidable death is poor form. He'll be held accountable when this is all over, and the Tories are nothing to do with this.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1251589186450264064

 

[Wij]

Since it’s behind paywall here’s a twitter thread with highlights (apologies for it being Owen Jones):


View: https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1251606098974474244

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/ThatTimWalker/status/1251785345953411073

 

[caLLous]

UK’s coronavirus science advice won’t be published until pandemic ends

Yay for transparency. Not only do we not even know who is on the committee but what they're discussing/recommending/deciding can't be peer-reviewed because they're not publishing it. Place your bets for how long the government tries to avoid publishing it (or digs their heels in and delays the publication) after this has all passed.

 

[Yoni]

ok I understand the need to point all this out but I am surprised that any of it is news to you or even news at all? (please remember I am not a Tory but all the above was already available with the exception of R Murdock wanting to install Gove which would quite frankly be more disasterous than Bozza)

 

[Scouse]

Facepalms incoming from @Embattle now - but the fact is, in voting Johnson in the public got exactly what we all knew he was - a privileged feckless chancer - not a hard worker with the public's best interests at heart.

Politics is personal. Although we don't have the benefit of foresight, maybe the next time people vote they should think "is this person going to give a shit about planning and crisis management of this sort of stuff"? And when the answer is clearly "hell no" - as it always was with Johnson - then vote another way.

Or vote clear incompetence and, potentially, unnecessary death. As is the current case.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

ok I understand the need to point all this out but I am surprised that any of it is news to you or even news at all? (please remember I am not a Tory but all the above was already available with the exception of R Murdock wanting to install Gove which would quite frankly be more disasterous than Bozza)

Well I think everyone knew it was a fuckup. This story though puts meat on the bones. It gives us an insight from the inside of what an incompetent pillock Boris really is.
If Starmer doesn't rip him a new asshole now he will show that he is just another limp fucker like Corbin.

 

[Scouse]

Murdock wanting to install Gove which would quite frankly be more disasterous than Bozza)

Gove, for all his faults, is a worker IMO.

He'd feel compelled to turn up to Cobra meetings, rather than skip them to go fuck his missus in a hot tub of some country retreat.

I take your point that he'd still be a disaster though.

 

[Scouse]

If Starmer doesn't rip him a new asshole now he will show that he is just another limp fucker like Corbin.

Corbyn was saying these things, but nobody, including his own party, wanted to listen.

We still don't.

Ultimately, we don't give a fuck about the lives of strangers more than we fear losing our quality of life.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

Corbyn was saying these things, but nobody, including his own party, wanted to listen.

We still don't.

Ultimately, we don't give a fuck about the lives of strangers more than we fear losing our quality of life.

He had sooo much ammo to shoot down the conservatives over the years. He only got argumentative as the door was slapping his arse on the way out.

 

[caLLous]

Facepalms incoming from @Embattle now - but the fact is, in voting Johnson in the public got exactly what we all knew he was - a privileged feckless chancer - not a hard worker with the public's best interests at heart.

Politics is personal. Although we don't have the benefit of foresight, maybe the next time people vote they should think "is this person going to give a shit about planning and crisis management of this sort of stuff"? And when the answer is clearly "hell no" - as it always was with Johnson - then vote another way.

Or vote clear incompetence and, potentially, unnecessary death. As is the current case.

There are two reasons he got such a large majority - he said he would get Brexit done and he wasn't Corbyn. His actual manifesto and what he stands for (the kinds of things that people should actually think about when choosing a government) never came into it for a lot of voters.

 

[Yoni]

Facepalms incoming from @Embattle now - but the fact is, in voting Johnson in the public got exactly what we all knew he was - a privileged feckless chancer - not a hard worker with the public's best interests at heart.

Politics is personal. Although we don't have the benefit of foresight, maybe the next time people vote they should think "is this person going to give a shit about planning and crisis management of this sort of stuff"? And when the answer is clearly "hell no" - as it always was with Johnson - then vote another way.

Or vote clear incompetence and, potentially, unnecessary death. As is the current case.

Yes but this is something that I hear on the UK news every day so none of this is actual news it is just sensationalist bullcrap and is not solving the situation the country are in now. Wouldnt you rather the politicians answered questions on today and the future - ie what will they do differently for phase 2, 3 (and if the experts are to be believed 4) rather spend so much time on what has happend? Sadly none of this is going to bring back the lives that have been tragically lost both directly or indirectly from CV19.

Of all fo you heavily criticising your governments - what are you doing personally to help those people who need help I would be interested to know? Are you out helping those who are shielded to get food or have you come up with some innovative idea to help your community?

 

[~Yuckfou~]

Yes but this is something that I hear on the UK news every day so none of this is actual news it is just sensationalist bullcrap and is not solving the situation the country are in now. Wouldnt you rather the politicians answered questions on today and the future - ie what will they do differently for phase 2, 3 (and if the experts are to be believed 4) rather spend so much time on what has happend? Sadly none of this is going to bring back the lives that have been tragically lost both directly or indirectly from CV19.

Of all fo you heavily criticising your governments - what are you doing personally to help those people who need help I would be interested to know? Are you out helping those who are shielded to get food or have you come up with some innovative idea to help your community?

I'm following the lockdown rules so I don't spread it.

 

[Yoni]

I'm following the lockdown rules so I don't spread it.

What else are you doing though? Although living where you live looking at the levels of brutality your countries police are going to - protesting against this starting online would seem like an excellent use of time as there is plenty of it in countries where you are not allowed to work.

 

[~Yuckfou~]

What else are you doing though?

We are not allowed out. So pretty difficult to do anything. The police and local councils over here have been brilliant tbh. That video I posted the guy was asking for it, had he come near me I would also have decked him. The police have been putting dance routines together in the streets to entertain, council have been having online competitions for the kids amongst loads of other things. Back in blighty they've done fuck all. Nobody is going without food (yet) because local mayors and councillors are seeing to that. I've never seen such a community spirit tbh.

I'm older and wiser than I used to be so I don't get into arguments with pixels anymore. However you seem to think that people shouldn't be outraged by what has happened and only look to the future?

 

[~Yuckfou~]

I'd hate to be in the NHS right now.
Coronavirus: Delivery of 84 tonnes of protective equipment for NHS delayed

 

[Yoni]

I think that we should use all the energy we have to get out of this mess, not spend it on dwelling on everyone’s fuck ups

 

[DaGaffer]

I think that we should use all the energy we have to get out of this mess, not spend it on dwelling on everyone’s fuck ups

Boris will never be brought to book using that approach, and since he's clearly not actually been doing his fucking job even before he got Covid-19, why not get rid now?

Of course cognitive dissonance is particularly strong in the Great British public so they won't accept they voted in a feckless fuckwit despite the mountain of evidence.

 

[Yoni]

Not sure why you disagree and the post something that I partially agree with - ie that the current Tory government is terrabad - but it is what they have for the next 4.years with a HUGE majority. Yes it sucks I did not vote for the bunch of baffoons either and although i don't live there ALL of my family does - thankfully most of them are on the Isle of Man who seem to be handling the issue well - none the less what is happening now is so pointless - no one is going to be outed.... all this wasted energy that could be used to improve the situation - really quite shameful.

 

[Bodhi]

So are we basing our ideas on what happened in the run up to lockdown on a hit piece full of unnamed sources and hearsay, or a rational, sourced review of the scientific evidence like below?

RPT-SPECIAL REPORT-Johnson listened to his scientists about coronavirus - but they were slow to sound the alarm

Ah yes, silly question. We must slate the Tories for *checks notes* following the scientific advice they were given.

I'm sure there will be an inquiry on what went wrong after the fact. Maybe wait until its all over to start that eh?

 

[Bodhi]

Also, health is a devolved issue, and Scotland, Wales and Norn Iron have all been following the same advice and strategy. I notice they aren't mentioned?

 

[caLLous]

So are we basing our ideas on what happened in the run up to lockdown on a hit piece full of unnamed sources and hearsay, or a rational, sourced review of the scientific evidence like below?

RPT-SPECIAL REPORT-Johnson listened to his scientists about coronavirus - but they were slow to sound the alarm

Ah yes, silly question. We must slate the Tories for *checks notes* following the scientific advice they were given.

I'm sure there will be an inquiry on what went wrong after the fact. Maybe wait until its all over to start that eh?

Gove wasn't exactly chomping at the bit to point out even a single part of that "hit piece" that was inaccurate this morning. He resorted to sheepishly saying a response would be forthcoming (aka "PLEASE STOP ASKING") and then, while refusing to answer a question, he mumbled something about sharing facts in a transparent way.