Politics Coronavirus

[Scouse]

No problem with changing the text on the link, but I'm still searching for the link between White Poverty and people deciding to have a party.

It's clear from the poorest white areas being hit the hardest with currently rising infection rates.

Explicit in that article (because of where it hits), and implicit in the UK infection maps. The very poorest.

 

[Moriath]

If you don't hover over a link to see what the URL is before you click it then you've been interneting wrongly for quite some time.

On the other hand I don't know why @Scouse bothers to change the names, seems like unnecessary work to me.

Cant hover on an ipad

 

[Gwadien]

This forum is a parody of itself.

 

[MYstIC G]

Cant hover on an ipad

Pfft, long press on link and it shows URL

 

[Wij]

How Taiwan triumphed over Covid as the UK faltered

Taipei’s success shows how lives might have been saved had the UK government acted differently

www.theguardian.com

 

[Raven]

Fuckwits still compare it to flu tho, despite a YEAR of it proving it isn't.

We could have been New Zealand, we could have been Taiwan...but no, holybobs!

Our government are useless cunts.

 

[Gray]

Well went for my jab this afternoon. Never thought I would say how weird it was having a bit of Bill Gates squirted into my body. I know a lot of people said they didn't feel it but I sure did haaa. Just a bit of a lingering sting though which lasted a few minutes. I imagine overnight I might start to get some symptoms - Quite typical if I do as I have had nearly two weeks annual leave from work without issue.

 

[Scouse]

How Taiwan triumphed over Covid as the UK faltered

Taipei’s success shows how lives might have been saved had the UK government acted differently

www.theguardian.com

The warning last February was that we will have to live with it, we can’t eliminate it. Yet even then, we could see international examples of how the virus was being eliminated

Keep voting Tory though Freddies.

 

[Embattle]

Well went for my jab this afternoon. Never thought I would say how weird it was having a bit of Bill Gates squirted into my body.

Less dangerous than having a bit of Wij squirted into you.

 

[Moriath]

Keep voting Tory though Freddies.

You think a corbyn government would have done better?

 

[Raven]

Oh, here we go.

 

[Scouse]

You think a corbyn government would have done better?

There are 195 countries in the world.

We're right near the top of the shitlist.

If you pick *any* government at random then you've a better than 98% chance of picking one that did better.


So yes. Almost any other government would have made a better job of it.

 

[Wij]

You think a corbyn government would have done better?

I don't think that's even the point. Bad governance is bad governance.

 

[Raven]

My mum would have done better than the Tories.

 

[Scouse]

My mum would have done better than the Tories.

Anyone with a science education would have done better - the feckless retard we have as PM studied Classics at University.

That's absolutely a worthwhile degree - but it's not anything remotely suitable for rational decision making and analysis of evidence.

Our class system, Eton, Oxford etc - is utterly unsuitable for providing competent governors for the majority.

 

[Embattle]

There was a good bit on vaccine nationalism last night on Newsnight. In essence it talked about how the EU wasn't alone with AZ under delivery since it had also under delivered to UK as well, they also spoke about how the Pfizer vaccine had originally under delivered and how it also exported a considerable amount of doses to outside the EU.

 

[Raven]

Covid-19: EU leaders to discuss boosting vaccine supplies

Leaders will also review plans to curb exports of Covid vaccines, which could affect supply to the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

lol, complaining about the AZ vaccine, that they have been working their hardest on making sure nobody wants.

Utter dribbling morons.

12% vaccination rate in the EU, starting to make the Tories look competent.

Also, good luck stopping the movement of vaccines, if it does turn into an export ban then we can simply stop the export of key ingredients. The EU are playing a very dangerous game and the world is watching.

 

[Yoni]

There have been more and more cases in Sweden re AZ and clotting disorders .... So they are now testing further so they can exclude this group from the AZ rollout - this seems sensible to me

 

[Ctuchik]

Also, good luck stopping the movement of vaccines, if it does turn into an export ban then we can simply stop the export of key ingredients. The EU are playing a very dangerous game and the world is watching.

Because only England is allowed export bans on vaccine!!!

 

[Raven]

Because only England is allowed export bans on vaccine!!!

We haven't banned anything...

We are using ours, the EU, not so much.

 

[Moriath]

Because only England is allowed export bans on vaccine!!!

We have no export ban afaik

 

[Bodhi]

Fuckwits still compare it to flu tho, despite a YEAR of it proving it isn't.

We could have been New Zealand, we could have been Taiwan...but no, holybobs!

Our government are useless cunts.

Well we've got fuckwits comparing the UK to remote islands in the Pacific or places we couldn't get any early info from because they aren't recognised by the WHO, so comparing COVID to Flu seems quite sensible in that case.

Even though it's more like a cold.

 

[Gwadien]

Because only England is allowed export bans on vaccine!!!

What do you think about the whole EU vaccine thing? I think we've had enough from the resident brexiteers but it seems there's no Europeans on the forum weighing in on it.

 

[Ormorof]

Its a clusterfuck as stated many times, even many member states are now saying publicly the powers to stop exports should not be used as it creates a very dangerous precedent

Finland is now drafting a law turning the current recommendations into legal restrictions, super stupid imo, anyone who is going to follow the restrictions is already doing so, and anyone who might not will likely continue to do so since theres no way the police can enforce this vague "only go to stores for necessary things" crap. The main facepalm of this law is its a reaction to Helsinki city going against the governments advice and relaxing recommendations (and thus the huge spike in cases that followed), the law puts control officially to central government instead of local, so its just dick waving between political parties at this stage

 

[Scouse]

Covid: Jab passports possible 'after all offered vaccine'

A review on certificates showing jab status is ongoing but no decisions have been made, PM says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Once we've all been offered a jab, what's the point of passports?

Coercion?

 

[Raven]

To try and filter out the nutters so the rest of us can get back to some sort of normality.

The nutters can carry on being essentially locked down, nobody cares.

 

[Yoni]

What do you think about the whole EU vaccine thing? I think we've had enough from the resident brexiteers but it seems there's no Europeans on the forum weighing in on it.

Vaccines in Europe has and continues to be difficult. The information in DN.se is very different from the information on the BBC - we are being informed that vaccines from AZ production facilities in Europe have been sending their product to the UK, there is also a big investigation going in in Italy due to some found stockpiled vaccines. As even in Sweden there is a potential for bias re UK and vice versa from the UK press I tend to go to the NYT - With a Police Raid and the Threat of Export Curbs on Vaccines, the E.U. Plays Tough this is a good article. As for the health risks as I wrote earlier there are more cases now of the clotting issue which is occuring in the under 65s. In Sweden they will continue to vaccinate the over 65s and by the time they are finished with that group there will be more information on the clotting issue before the final group will be vaccinated.

I pay little attention to the negative comments here about Europe as there is nothing posted here about the vaccines in Sweden and Europe that I am not already aware of and most of the time I think that the comments are just unnecessary.

Re the clotting issue as this group is growing and more instances are being reported and my vaccination is not due until June I am happy for them to investigate further and understand the issues ...

 

[Embattle]

My understanding of the jackbooted invasion of the factory in Italy is the product was being filled and finished there before being sent back to Belgium, the fact is it is just another part of a multi staged process. It was made all the worse by again picking on AZ and trying to insinuate those vaccines were going to be sneaked out to the UK, it just seems like an easy target for there incompetence which continues.

You know you are in trouble when you can make Boris Johnson and his cohorts look good.

 

[Raven]

Even that old soak Junker is chiming in now

 

[Yoni]

I have not really seen any accusations where it is stated that the vaccines are going to the UK just that they are being exported outside of the EU so no need to be so sensitive on that topic... The whole AZ thing currently is of little importance to Sweden and therefore also for my personal stituation as it is only being given to over 65s - I am disinterested in the shinannigans... What I do see is the UK press stoking the fire and everytime they do some gloating on the forums.... whatever makes you feel good is my reaction to that ....

In the Corona update of DN.se very little is said about the EU screwup apart from vaccines are short - this is in the feedback of the regional meetings when they are asked when the programme will speed up... but we all know that already so no need for any addtional excitement ...

As for getting back to normal ... there will not be much of that this year for anyone vaccinated or not

If the UK nationalists want to get all bitchy and gloaty about how awsome the UK government is please remember that you are in the top 10 countries in the world for deaths per million and in the top 5 for total number of deaths. Even the excellent work on vaccines will never ever wash away that stain ... (yes Sweden are in a terrible place but contiue to fall in the chart of death not rise... oO)