Politics Coronavirus

[Moriath]

Weird that they have come out with this given the official statement from EMA will be Thursday. Sweden are waiting for that official stamp before beginning again

Hope yr mum and family are doing ok. I see high cases on the IoM.

 

[Moriath]

Exactly this... however now it is being ranged I also understand that people want confirmation from EMA that is is ok.. again I am staggered that the EMA is coming out today to state that all is good when the official statement is Thursday.. i mean why not wait 2 days

2 days can mean more infected that didnt need to be. And therefore more dead etc etc

 

[Embattle]

I think the damage has been done again, no matter what they say in 2 days time.

 

[Ormorof]

Seems an odd time to sow doubt in vaccines


Sputnik now being produced in EU they could offer that as an alternative

 

[Bodhi]

 

[Yoni]

Hope yr mum and family are doing ok. I see high cases on the IoM.

Mum had her injections others have not yet

 

[Moriath]

Mum had her injections others have not yet

But they not sick right ? Hopin they stay that way

 

[MYstIC G]

I'm gonna dive in with an unpopular opinion.

Noone here is a vaccine expert right? As far as I'm aware all vaccines can run the risk of doing something funky to you.

To me it seems that the EU (and its countries although I'm sure there will be the argument they're all puppets who worship the EU) is being way more careful about the vaccines as I'd imagine the Tories are petrified about fucking the only thing they've done good by delaying them any further.

If the vaccine turns out to kill 1 in 10 million people then sure I would want them to stop until they've got down the bottom of what causes it and who shouldn't have it rather than gun ho let's get the economy open regardless of the price.

So you'd rather hundreds of people a week might die from covid than 7 people maybe die from a vaccine (using your 1 in 10 million over a 70 millionish population)

Buh?!?!?!?

 

[Yoni]

Seems an odd time to sow doubt in vaccines


Sputnik now being produced in EU they could offer that as an alternative

EU have authorised Pf, Moderna, JJandJ and AZ this is 1.460 billion excl az and 1,860 b incl AZ... there will be plenty of vaccines to go around so I am not concerned about the roll out at this time.... sure it is slow but it is ramping up a bit more now and as communication at least here was that we could be vaccinated during the summer. They still believe that is the case then I do not feel affected by the issues with supply at this time... The vaccination programme on the IOM appears to be going at a similar rate to Sweden at the moment and the only trip I want to take this year is to see my mum which is still impossible.

Statistics in Sweden are very odd (although being explained by the vaccination programme) at the moment in that there is a big increase in spread but now with much much lower deaths due to those in elderly care and in the community programmes having their vaccinations (which is good).... health service is still stretched though.

 

[Raven]

It doesn't matter which ones they have authorised at this point, they have sown enough doubt into vaccines that it is largely irrelevant, which will also undoubtedly have a knock on effect for other vaccination programs for other existing conditions too. This whole blood clot thing is yet another complete farce.

...and time is very much of the essence now, economies need to open up properly again, people need to see people for their own mental health, we are a year into it now.

I am very confident that we will have a risk-free family get together (3 households, 6 adults, 2 kids) for my mum's birthday on 1st June, we are also keeping an eye on developments that might mean we can visit the in-laws for a day soon (a day in the garden) which would mean the world to them and my wife.

 

[Scouse]

...and time is very much of the essence now, economies need to open up properly again, people need to see people for their own mental health, we are a year into it now.

I am very confident that we will have a risk free family get together (3 households, 6 adults, 2 kids) for my mum's birthday on 1st June.

Once the over 50's are vaccinated then I'm of the opinion that small social get-togethers with friends should be allowed - overnight stays with a two households of friends/family etc.

That should be mid April

Who can get a Covid booster this spring and how can you book?

Those most at risk from Covid across the UK are being offered a spring booster by the NHS.

www.bbc.co.uk

17th May is two households indoors in England (and if we're following the science then there are probably good reasons for that) but frankly I won't be shitting on anyone if they decide that that's OK for them tbh.

Not advocating a wholesale return - but I reckon one "bubble" should be allowed to reform.

 

[Raven]

...but frankly I won't be shitting on anyone if they decide that that's OK for them tbh.

Absolutely and I think most people are pretty flexible now and understand the risks, we aren't making plans for it in case of disappointment...it's not like we have much booked in that can't be rearranged atm

 

[JBP|]

Having my first injection tomorrow.

 

[Deebs]

Having my first injection in an hours time

 

[Bodhi]

View: https://twitter.com/BrunoBrussels/status/1372171392033120257?s=20


This seems fine.

And also a great way for any Pharma companies based in the EU to move to Switzerland / UK.

Must admit I've never been a fan of the grey silly bureaucrats in Brussels - in fact it was my main reason for voting Leave - but what the juddering fuck are they playing at here?

 

[Scouse]

And also a great way for any Pharma companies based in the EU to move to Switzerland / UK.

They won't give a fuck. They'll get paid. That's all they care about - not who gets the product and when. Just that all the cash flows in eventually.

what the juddering fuck are they playing at here?

Protecting their citizens. They've not got enough vaccines, we've got shitloads and have vaccinated loads of our people. So they're grabbing them.

In "fairness" terms they're right - vaccines should be getting rolled out to humans at the same pace - regardless of country or wealth.

 

[Scouse]

Don't really know what's funny about stating the obvious @Bodhi.

What's incorrect about the above?

 

[Bodhi]

They won't give a fuck. They'll get paid. That's all they care about - not who gets the product and when. Just that all the cash flows in eventually.



Protecting their citizens. They've not got enough vaccines, we've got shitloads and have vaccinated loads of our people. So they're grabbing them.

In "fairness" terms they're right - vaccines should be getting rolled out to humans at the same pace - regardless of country or wealth.

Wow, I didn't think anyone would be enough of a Big Government bootlicker to actually try to justify what the EU are currently engaging in, but whaddaya know?

EU's position is basically thus - We want all of your shitty vaccine you can supply, however we aren't going to administer it because reasons. We'll also not export your shitty vaccine to places who need it, such as Australia, because reasons.

P.S Want some of this other, now randomly more expensive vaccine we have? It's actually caused more blood clots in the UK than their shitty vaccine, but the manufacturer has assured us it's awesome, and the EMA gotta get paid.

 

[Scouse]

Wow, I didn't think anyone would be enough of a Big Government bootlicker to actually try to justify what the EU are currently engaging in, but whaddaya know?

Please point to where I was justifying anything, or indeed agreeing with their actions.

You asked what they were playing at and I told you what and why. Because it was obvious. The rest of your bodhiwaffle and assumption is down to you and your lack of comprehension / your own projection.

 

[Deebs]

All done

Christ it has been a long time since I had an injection, when did syringes get so fucking small? Normally I feel the actual injection (the prick) but did not feel a thing this time.

 

[Scouse]

All done

Cool.

I've just texted Bill Gates for your ID. I've got an xbox controller so I'm going to walk you into walls

 

[Embattle]

Again it always looks silly wanting more of a vaccine a number of countries cast dispersions on initially and have banned being used all together in the last few days, even worse at the start of the month those same countries actually had massive amounts of that vaccine in storage because of the impression they gave meant people didn't want a vaccine at all or wanted to select the one they were given.

 

[Embattle]

All done

Christ it has been a long time since I had an injection, when did syringes get so fucking small? Normally I feel the actual injection (the prick) but did not feel a thing this time.

They didn't mistake you for a cow this time, hence the smaller syringe

 

[Bodhi]

Please point to where I was justifying anything, or indeed agreeing with their actions.

Probably the bit where you said, and I quote " In "fairness" terms they're right - vaccines should be getting rolled out to humans at the same pace"

Just as long as those humans aren't Australian I guess.

 

[Raven]

Can the EU please stop being abjectly and catastrophically inept for a little bit?

They're making the Tories look in control.

 

[Scouse]

Probably the bit where you said, and I quote " In "fairness" terms they're right - vaccines should be getting rolled out to humans at the same pace"

Just as long as those humans aren't Australian I guess.

It's not an approval of their actions - that's why I put "fairness" in inverted commas and then pointed out that all humans should be getting rolled out at the same pace if we're being fair.

The EU has a point in that we're miles ahead and have more supplies. The fact that would be just as unfair to other countries if they could means I don't approve of them. But then, I don't approve of us either - I don't see us helping Oz out.

The worst offending country? Israel - nearly done with their rollout ahead of the whole planet, not giving any to the Palestinians. Scummy fucking shitpot of a country. Make of that what you will. (I bet the tinfoilers are having a field day).

The only reason we're getting pissy about the EU actions is that it's going to make things harder for us. That's the only reason - but I don't see us sat here complaining about the rate of rollout in Uganda and moaning about why we're not helping these countries.


We're just selfish little whiners - no different from the EU.

 

[Ono]

My jab is booked for Friday next week. Not sure which one we get but I have a feeling it will be the Astra/Oxford.

 

[Moriath]

All done

Christ it has been a long time since I had an injection, when did syringes get so fucking small? Normally I feel the actual injection (the prick) but did not feel a thing this time.

Someones gonna have to say something about @Deebs feeling a prick lol. Or not in this case

 

[Moriath]

It's not an approval of their actions - that's why I put "fairness" in inverted commas and then pointed out that all humans should be getting rolled out at the same pace if we're being fair.

The EU has a point in that we're miles ahead and have more supplies. The fact that would be just as unfair to other countries if they could means I don't approve of them. But then, I don't approve of us either - I don't see us helping Oz out.

The worst offending country? Israel - nearly done with their rollout ahead of the whole planet, not giving any to the Palestinians. Scummy fucking shitpot of a country. Make of that what you will. (I bet the tinfoilers are having a field day).

The only reason we're getting pissy about the EU actions is that it's going to make things harder for us. That's the only reason - but I don't see us sat here complaining about the rate of rollout in Uganda and moaning about why we're not helping these countries.


We're just selfish little whiners - no different from the EU.

At least we are using it and its not going to waste. Once they have sorted themselves out and stopped the populous declining the az vaccine because of this trumped up nonsense then they can start complaining about lack of vaccine in the eu.

btw saw on bbc interviewer talking to rando’s in eu about az vaccine and they saying they wouldnt have that version.

also az isthe only one doing this not for profit. Pfizer putting up its prices is just profiteering

 

[Embattle]

View: https://twitter.com/OilSheppard/status/1372265415506812928