Politics Coronavirus

[Raven]

Job, you really need to tell us where you're getting this information from.

Are you a regular at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health website?

@Job posts what he has been told to post via some nutter fringe website, he doesn't actually understand the source material, nor the subject.

 

[Tay]

With a high incidence of BAME workers in the care industry, it seems up to 50% of them could refuse the vaccine.

Nearly half of care home staff WON'T take Covid vaccine

Nadra Ahmed, chairman of the National Care Association, said as many as 40% of carers could choose not to take up the option as it is rolled out over the coming days.

www.google.com

Oh ffs its from the Daily Fail..

I can tell you now that every single BAME member of staff at the hospital where the wife normally works and the one where she is redeployed to have ALL taken the 1st vaccine shot offered, some have even had the booster already as they were high risk candidates.

I cant see care homes being any different even the Pope said its ok ^^

 

[Job]

Its just a report on official study and is causing concern across the political spectrum.
But feel free to shout daily fail, wipe your hands and announce job done.

 

[gmloki]

Hey all, not exactly a political post and I guess coming indirectly related to covid. First heads up this is not a post for sympathy or talking down to anyone at all. Yesterday we got some terrible news that our Young Nephew took his own life aged 13. Nothing covid related in terms of physical health, but I cannot help thinking that lockdown is having such a huge impact on people all across the spectrum. At least as adults (hopefully) we recognise things like isolation, loneliness and raise our hands for help. Kids?!?! what sounding board do they have, what reference point do they have for not having friends to speak to day in day out, teachers, sports coaches. By no means do I think this situation or countless ones like it should be used as means for relaxing social distancing etc, if anything, it's an example where as a nation we should do more for the mental health of our people.

Moreover as a nice request, reach out to someone, especially the young un's who are sat in their bedrooms all day every day. reach out the ones isolated or who dont have the social skills to stick their hands in the air and ask for five minutes of your time. No doubt if the youngs ask you why you asking, they are perfectly fine

Anyway, hope you know where im coming from

 

[Scouse]

That really sucks @gmloki. Sorry

 

[Aoami]

Hey all, not exactly a political post and I guess coming indirectly related to covid. First heads up this is not a post for sympathy or talking down to anyone at all. Yesterday we got some terrible news that our Young Nephew took his own life aged 13. Nothing covid related in terms of physical health, but I cannot help thinking that lockdown is having such a huge impact on people all across the spectrum. At least as adults (hopefully) we recognise things like isolation, loneliness and raise our hands for help. Kids?!?! what sounding board do they have, what reference point do they have for not having friends to speak to day in day out, teachers, sports coaches. By no means do I think this situation or countless ones like it should be used as means for relaxing social distancing etc, if anything, it's an example where as a nation we should do more for the mental health of our people.

Moreover as a nice request, reach out to someone, especially the young un's who are sat in their bedrooms all day every day. reach out the ones isolated or who dont have the social skills to stick their hands in the air and ask for five minutes of your time. No doubt if the youngs ask you why you asking, they are perfectly fine

Anyway, hope you know where im coming from

Horrible, so sorry to hear it. Definitely noticed a bit of a change of attitude recently from the younger lads I talk to at work, I think it's really starting to take its toll on some of them. Funnily enough I did reach out to one of them this afternoon, but will make sure I make it a regular thing off the back of this post.

 

[Jupitus]

Hey all, not exactly a political post and I guess coming indirectly related to covid. First heads up this is not a post for sympathy or talking down to anyone at all. Yesterday we got some terrible news that our Young Nephew took his own life aged 13. Nothing covid related in terms of physical health, but I cannot help thinking that lockdown is having such a huge impact on people all across the spectrum. At least as adults (hopefully) we recognise things like isolation, loneliness and raise our hands for help. Kids?!?! what sounding board do they have, what reference point do they have for not having friends to speak to day in day out, teachers, sports coaches. By no means do I think this situation or countless ones like it should be used as means for relaxing social distancing etc, if anything, it's an example where as a nation we should do more for the mental health of our people.

Moreover as a nice request, reach out to someone, especially the young un's who are sat in their bedrooms all day every day. reach out the ones isolated or who dont have the social skills to stick their hands in the air and ask for five minutes of your time. No doubt if the youngs ask you why you asking, they are perfectly fine

Anyway, hope you know where im coming from

Important reminder, sorry for the news mate

 

[Raven]

Hey all, not exactly a political post and I guess coming indirectly related to covid. First heads up this is not a post for sympathy or talking down to anyone at all. Yesterday we got some terrible news that our Young Nephew took his own life aged 13. Nothing covid related in terms of physical health, but I cannot help thinking that lockdown is having such a huge impact on people all across the spectrum. At least as adults (hopefully) we recognise things like isolation, loneliness and raise our hands for help. Kids?!?! what sounding board do they have, what reference point do they have for not having friends to speak to day in day out, teachers, sports coaches. By no means do I think this situation or countless ones like it should be used as means for relaxing social distancing etc, if anything, it's an example where as a nation we should do more for the mental health of our people.

Moreover as a nice request, reach out to someone, especially the young un's who are sat in their bedrooms all day every day. reach out the ones isolated or who dont have the social skills to stick their hands in the air and ask for five minutes of your time. No doubt if the youngs ask you why you asking, they are perfectly fine

Anyway, hope you know where im coming from

That's horrible, sorry to hear that, and I get what you mean. There absolutely needs to be more support for people in isolation. I don't know what I would do without my wife being here and my small but very close group of friends.

Off the bat of this I am going to phone them more often, a couple are singles living alone, working from home etc.

 

[Embattle]

Single jab turning out to be less effective than expected.

Single Covid vaccine dose in Israel 'less effective than we thought'

Surge in infections dampens optimism over country’s advanced immunisation programme

www.theguardian.com

Perhaps less than 50% effective.

If that's the case, our government's gamble is looking like it may be an epic fail.

Covid: Israel vaccine fears 'out of context and inaccurate'

Israel is likely to be the first country to see an impact from vaccination - but it is still too early.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Deebs]

Police turn up to 'illegal rave' to find elderly queuing in the cold for Covid vaccine

POLICE who swooped in on an “illegal rave” in Southend instead found queues of pensioners lining up to get their Covid jab.

www.echo-news.co.uk

 

[Bodhi]

Hydroxychloroquine: A Morality Tale

A startling investigation into how a cheap, well-known drug became a political football in the midst of a pandemic

www.tabletmag.com

A long read about the infamous HCQ from last year and how the scientific establishment didn't really give it a proper crack of the whip due to its association with The Bad Orange Man, and an object lesson in why scientists should stay out of politics. Especially interesting because Son of HCQ has turned up - Ivermectin, and it's looking just as promising as HCQ was when administered properly. I say that as most of the trials showing HCQ was bad were done on seriously ill patients who's bodies has already started attacking itself, whereas HCQ allegedly stopped them from getting to that stage.


View: https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1351508477190033412?s=20


The NIH have updated their guidance so it can now be used in the States, along with the WHO's updated guidance around PCR testing yesterday I suspect they'll get on top of things pretty quickly over there now the scientists are back to doing science again.

 

[Moriath]

Just saw an announcement that anyone at a party of more than 15 ppl can get fined 800£. Why 15? What about if its a gathering of people talking about books or something?.
another bit of flawed legislature.

 

[Tay]

Its just a report on official study and is causing concern across the political spectrum.
But feel free to shout daily fail, wipe your hands and announce job done.

The Daily Fail has earned its reputation. It twists stories to appeal to the weak minded.

As for wiping my hands of it? FU

 

[Scouse]

Get Covid for £500?

Yes please! Say a fuckload of people.

Either give everyone £500 or no-one.

 

[Tay]

Covid: Israel vaccine fears 'out of context and inaccurate'

Israel is likely to be the first country to see an impact from vaccination - but it is still too early.

www.bbc.co.uk

Well thats a bit shit.

I know there was a big drive when my wife was given hers, but the suggestion back then was that it was "up to 92% effective". which seems to be some way off the actual mark.

 

[Tay]

Just saw an announcement that anyone at a party of more than 15 ppl can get fined 800£. Why 15? What about if its a gathering of people talking about books or something?.
another bit of flawed legislature.

It's damned embarrassing is what it is.

Hit them where it hurts, its got to be more than just a pat on the arse and "On yer way son".

 

[Talivar]

The Israel fears are out of propotion it seems as the Doctor on Sky News explained that it takes 10 days for the vaccine to even start to work and then begins to build up from there. The Doctor on Sky was saying that most of the Israel data is taken from just 14 days? so only 4 days where the vaccine is building up its immunity levels.

 

[Job]

I would have thought police access to health records was more of a concern.

Get Covid for £500?

Yes please! Say a fuckload of people.

Either give everyone £500 or no-one.

 

[Raven]

Still not quite there with quoting @Job.

It's not that hard.

 

[Embattle]

Ministers consider paying £500 to everyone with Covid in England

Exclusive: universal payment is ‘preferred position’ of DHSC in effort to help people self-isolate

www.theguardian.com

 

[Tay]

The Israel fears are out of propotion it seems as the Doctor on Sky News explained that it takes 10 days for the vaccine to even start to work and then begins to build up from there. The Doctor on Sky was saying that most of the Israel data is taken from just 14 days? so only 4 days where the vaccine is building up its immunity levels.

I thought the time period was pretty short too for Israeli to do the testing, but from what I read today, they begun vaccinating back in Dec.

Israel got access to the Pfizer BioNtech vaccine on the 19th Dec and had begun vaccinating over 150k people per day. There is no way that they wouldn't have run their research from day 1, 150k people per day gives them a pretty large sample size before and after the booster at 21 days.

They would have had plenty of data to supply Pfizers with which was part of the requirements of having the vaccine so early.

 

[Job]

So it turns out BAME being more likely to suffer from covid by ethnicity alone is claptrap.
Well thats the latest conclusion.
Though it is emotional, so I'll wait and see.

Covid-19: BAME Communities - Wednesday 13 January 2021 - Hansard - UK Parliament

Hansard record of the item 'Covid-19: BAME Communities' on Wednesday 13 January 2021.

hansard.parliament.uk

 

[dysfunction]

So it turns out BAME being more likely to suffer from covid by ethnicity alone is claptrap.
Well thats the latest conclusion.
Though it is emotional, so I'll wait and see.

Covid-19: BAME Communities - Wednesday 13 January 2021 - Hansard - UK Parliament

Hansard record of the item 'Covid-19: BAME Communities' on Wednesday 13 January 2021.

hansard.parliament.uk

I don't think it's ever been known to be anything else has it?
I guess it's just you coming to that conclusion on your own...

 

[Embattle]

I don't think that is what has been claimed, what has been stated is they are more likely to be affected due to circumstances such as poverty, family, jobs, etc.

 

[Scouse]

So it turns out BAME being more likely to suffer from covid by ethnicity alone is claptrap.

Not a report by scientist. But the (contested) opinion of a conservative minister.


At least you provided a link. So improvement can happen!

 

[Aoami]

Get Covid for £500?

Yes please! Say a fuckload of people.

Either give everyone £500 or no-one.

Yeah this is a bit stupid. What about people who don't have covid but are told to isolate by the app? What about those of us who have had covid and isolated because we're not stupid and didn't need a financial incentive?

 

[Job]

I can see crack heads running into covid wards and french kissing the patients.

 

[Job]

Not a report by scientist. But the (contested) opinion of a conservative minister.


At least you provided a link. So improvement can happen!

Is it you dont believe him cos they is black
As I said..emotional, so pinch of salt.

 

[Scouse]

Is it you dont believe him cos they is black
As I said..emotional, so pinch of salt.

No. It's nothing to do with colour (is the minister involved black?). And absolutely, there's nothing emotional about any of this for me. It's to do with the fact that this is a politician - so evidence and facts don't come into it.

I'm happy to talk about the reality of infection and mortality rates in any divisible ethnic group you care to talk about - but you have to bring evidence to the table, not the opinions of people who may well have a professional requirement to present something that isn't factually accurate.

 

[Deebs]

Coronavirus relief post



Fucking lol and she is a journalist