Politics Coronavirus

[MYstIC G]

This is probably very pre-mature but I have severe asthma and I'm about 50% sure that Corona will kill me if I get it right now. When my Asthama flares up from a regular cold, at the very worst-case scenario, I need a nebuliser, best case scenario it's just a regular old cold that goes away in a few days. IF and I do mean IF I do die from it, however, I've instructed my wife to inform you buggers, take from that what you will, I don't expect tears or sympathy posts, I expect laughter and grotesque memes. That is my final wish (again, IF it comes to that)

Don't let it come to that then! (I don't have enough mind bleach to deal with what would get posted )

 

[dysfunction]

Is it or are you just posting shit on the internet? The only count that really matters is the number of people being lost. There's some information on that on this BBC article which shows we're 4x worse than Belgium in that regard. I guess that's being manipulated as well, yeah?
Why on earth would anyone start sending NHS staff here there and everywhere collecting swabs to turn a 50/50 chance you have it into a confirmation. They'll still just tell you to stay in your own home until it becomes critical, if you get that bad you wouldn't need a fucking test to let you know.

What fucking nonsense, the pair of you.

So why set a target of testing 25000 people a day? Or is that just another number on the side of a bus?
Why isn't the UK testing more?
Makes sense to actually test people to see how far the virus is spreading and to get an idea of the total number of people with the virus. Also if you've been tested and it's negative you don't have to be confined at home for 14 days unnecessarily. you can actually get a bit of fresh air.

You don't need to send NHS staff to do it I wouldn't have thought. All the person has to do is perform a nasal swab and then send it to the lab.

It's not nonsense at all. The more info you have the better prepared you can be.

 

[MYstIC G]

So why set a target of testing 25000 people a day? Or is that just another number on the side of a bus?
Why isn't the UK testing more?
Makes sense to actually test people to see how far the virus is spreading and to get an idea of the total number of people with the virus. Also if you've been tested and it's negative you don't have to be confined at home for 14 days unnecessarily. you can actually get a bit of fresh air.

You don't need to send NHS staff to do it I wouldn't have thought. All the person has to do is perform a nasal swab and then send it to the lab.

It's not nonsense at all. The more info you have the better prepared you can be.

Because they're stupid. Arbitrary targets don't work for anything.

Don't need NHS staff? Sure, let's get any old random to stick a swab up your nose with no training to stop them potentially getting infected if you're a carrier shall we?

Confirming that number doesn't prepare any beds in wards, doesn't protect any vulnerable people. At best it will be a measure of how unprepared we are to handle all this, very useful for saving lives that...

 

[DaGaffer]

Is it or are you just posting shit on the internet? The only count that really matters is the number of people being lost. There's some information on that on this BBC article which shows we're 4x worse than Belgium in that regard. I guess that's being manipulated as well, yeah?
Why on earth would anyone start sending NHS staff here there and everywhere collecting swabs to turn a 50/50 chance you have it into a confirmation. They'll still just tell you to stay in your own home until it becomes critical, if you get that bad you wouldn't need a fucking test to let you know.

What fucking nonsense, the pair of you.

Don't talk bollocks. Even if you didn't reveal it to the public, the actual spread of the disease is a vital measurement to gauge what's coming (and maybe scare a few fuckwits up Mount Snowdon into taking it seriously). If there's low test numbers and everyone else in the fucking developed world has high test numbers, then something's rotten in the state of Denmark. NB. Looking at the BBC link only reaffirms the oddity in the numbers; Belgium has a sixth of the population of the UK but has carried out 2/3 as many tests as the whole UK, and by the way the per cap death rate is higher; if Belgium was the same pop as the UK it would be 450 deaths. UK numbers are odd, no two ways about it.

And you don't need to burden the NHS with testing; we've got fucking drive through testing here.

 

[Moriath]

This is probably very pre-mature but I have severe asthma and I'm about 50% sure that Corona will kill me if I get it right now. When my Asthama flares up from a regular cold, at the very worst-case scenario, I need a nebuliser, best case scenario it's just a regular old cold that goes away in a few days. IF and I do mean IF I do die from it, however, I've instructed my wife to inform you buggers, take from that what you will, I don't expect tears or sympathy posts, I expect laughter and grotesque memes. That is my final wish (again, IF it comes to that)

 

[Yoni]

It isn’t just the UK, Sweden changed their testing policy to only those who are taken to hospital - or only the very sick. As I said in an earlier post they did a random sample test of 5000 of which 500 were infected in Stockholm’s - at LEAST 10% of the city. Swedish government is coming under a lot of fire for it’s current strategy.

Interestingly they have started to convert the convention centres in to field hospitals.

 

[Deebs]

This is probably very pre-mature but I have severe asthma and I'm about 50% sure that Corona will kill me if I get it right now. When my Asthama flares up from a regular cold, at the very worst-case scenario, I need a nebuliser, best case scenario it's just a regular old cold that goes away in a few days. IF and I do mean IF I do die from it, however, I've instructed my wife to inform you buggers, take from that what you will, I don't expect tears or sympathy posts, I expect laughter and grotesque memes. That is my final wish (again, IF it comes to that)

Mate take care of yourself and your family. My kids are in the same boat and I spoke to them both yesterday telling them to stay indoors for the next 12 weeks. Much love to you.

 

[Yoni]

This is probably very pre-mature but I have severe asthma and I'm about 50% sure that Corona will kill me if I get it right now. When my Asthama flares up from a regular cold, at the very worst-case scenario, I need a nebuliser, best case scenario it's just a regular old cold that goes away in a few days. IF and I do mean IF I do die from it, however, I've instructed my wife to inform you buggers, take from that what you will, I don't expect tears or sympathy posts, I expect laughter and grotesque memes. That is my final wish (again, IF it comes to that)

Stay indoors please and take care of yourself please :/

 

[Job]

I would suggest getting it now, you have a 99% chance of not dying, much higher if you are under 60.

If you have a million to one totally random bad reaction to it, then the intensive beds are still there.

In a few months time they will be full of very old people.
I appreciate Im lucky not to live in a crowded city, so all you lot in the rats nest we call London, you're ground zero for it....stay inside and dream of all those trendy bars and theatres you visit on the toob.

Im going out all day on my bike, probably wont get closer than a 100ft to a couple of people.
You get it from surfaces, not coughing over each other.

 

[dysfunction]

I would suggest getting it now, you have a 99% chance of not dying, much higher if you are under 60.

If you have a million to one totally random bad reaction to it, then the intensive beds are still there.

In a few months time they will be full of very old people.
I appreciate Im lucky not to live in a crowded city, so all you lot in the rats nest we call London, you're ground zero for it....stay inside and dream of all those trendy bars and theatres you visit on the toob.

Im going out all day on my bike, probably wont get closer than a 100ft to a couple of people.
You get it from surfaces, not coughing over each other.

You CAN get it from coughing over one another you fucking moron. If it's in a water droplet/vapour that lands on your face or eyes or something you can get it.
Stop being a fuck wit and posting bullshit

 

[Job]

Hardly anyone coughs over someone else, its totally antisocial.
It is being transmitted by surface touching.....thats why they keep saying wash your hands and masks are pointless.

 

[dysfunction]

Because they're stupid. Arbitrary targets don't work for anything.

Don't need NHS staff? Sure, let's get any old random to stick a swab up your nose with no training to stop them potentially getting infected if you're a carrier shall we?

Confirming that number doesn't prepare any beds in wards, doesn't protect any vulnerable people. At best it will be a measure of how unprepared we are to handle all this, very useful for saving lives that...

You could probably get given the kit, directed on how to use it, swab your nose and give it back. Why are you so anti testing?
Yes it does because if you know the number of actual number infected you know the actual rate if increase and therefore predict the number that will need a bed.

Why wouldn't you want as much info as possible? It helps you be prepared.

 

[Job]

Its become a disease of numbers, crying relatives, celebrities claiming to have it and worse case outcomes pushed to the front.

53 confirmed cases in Liverpool area
500,000 people live here.
Presumably thats people unwell enough to go to hospital.

Elon Musk just tweeted statistically you are more likely to die in a Tesla than from corona at the moment.

 

[caLLous]

Its become a disease of numbers, crying relatives, celebrities claiming to have it and worse case outcomes pushed to the front.

They're "pushed to the front" to raise awareness so they don't become reality, you fucking moron. A disease of numbers, what does that even mean? Should they just stop counting the infected/recovered/dead and hope for the best?

Elon Musk just tweeted statistically you are more likely to die in a Tesla than from corona at the moment.

Where?

 

[MYstIC G]

Don't talk bollocks. Even if you didn't reveal it to the public, the actual spread of the disease is a vital measurement to gauge what's coming (and maybe scare a few fuckwits up Mount Snowdon into taking it seriously). If there's low test numbers and everyone else in the fucking developed world has high test numbers, then something's rotten in the state of Denmark. NB. Looking at the BBC link only reaffirms the oddity in the numbers; Belgium has a sixth of the population of the UK but has carried out 2/3 as many tests as the whole UK, and by the way the per cap death rate is higher; if Belgium was the same pop as the UK it would be 450 deaths. UK numbers are odd, no two ways about it.

And you don't need to burden the NHS with testing; we've got fucking drive through testing here.

COVID-19: track coronavirus cases

Published, with the definitions, sources, etc.

You could probably get given the kit, directed on how to use it, swab your nose and give it back. Why are you so anti testing?
Yes it does because if you know the number of actual number infected you know the actual rate if increase and therefore predict the number that will need a bed.

Why wouldn't you want as much info as possible? It helps you be prepared.

I'm not anti-testing, I'm pro focusing on the more useful.

Try putting some more useful words in your own mouth before you attempt to put some in the mouths of others.

 

[Bodhi]

Erm...


View: https://twitter.com/Rx_Ed/status/1241391332280672256

Um,

New York To Begin Clinical Trials For Coronavirus Treatment Tuesday, Cuomo Says

 

[Yoni]

Um,

New York To Begin Clinical Trials For Coronavirus Treatment Tuesday, Cuomo Says

will this be the cause of the zombie apocolypse oO

 

[dysfunction]

COVID-19: track coronavirus cases

Published, with the definitions, sources, etc.

I'm not anti-testing, I'm pro focusing on the more useful.

Try putting some more useful words in your own mouth before you attempt to put some in the mouths of others.

oooh touchy.

 

[DaGaffer]

COVID-19: track coronavirus cases

Published, with the definitions, sources, etc.

I'm not anti-testing, I'm pro focusing on the more useful.

Try putting some more useful words in your own mouth before you attempt to put some in the mouths of others.

Those figures show exactly the same numbers as that Guardian map I posted and show you’re missing the point entirely. I’m not questioning the validity of the tests the NHS have done, I’m questioning the missing thousands they clearly haven’t done.

 

[Wij]

Um,

New York To Begin Clinical Trials For Coronavirus Treatment Tuesday, Cuomo Says

Nothing about Azithromycin in that article.

 

[Scouse]

Yep. No testing is the equivalent of putting your hands over your ears.

Right now is the best opportunity we'll ever have to get real data about virus transmission in the UK that can help us manage future outbreaks too.

 

[Wij]

World's electron microscopes put on alert to try to detect violins:

Harvey Weinstein tests positive for coronavirus

 

[Yoni]

Although with trying to mass test other problems occur - I read somewhere (sorry can not remember where) that the testing done in SKorea put the health services under extreme pressure also.

 

[Embattle]

This is probably very pre-mature but I have severe asthma and I'm about 50% sure that Corona will kill me if I get it right now. When my Asthama flares up from a regular cold, at the very worst-case scenario, I need a nebuliser, best case scenario it's just a regular old cold that goes away in a few days. IF and I do mean IF I do die from it, however, I've instructed my wife to inform you buggers, take from that what you will, I don't expect tears or sympathy posts, I expect laughter and grotesque memes. That is my final wish (again, IF it comes to that)

Those in the at risk groups just have to be more cautious than the rest, although when I say rest I don't mean the muppets who keep grouping up in public spaces etc. Always stay positive because your chance of getting it is low, you are only at higher risk which in essence means it isn't automatically fatal.

 

[Bodhi]

Nothing about Azithromycin in that article.

Tbh, I's suggest that if news of a potential treatment comes out that could massively reduce the impact of this, and your first reaction is "muh, but Trump", then your priorities are a little fucked up.

 

[Job]

Out on the bike, far fewer people about, I dont know how many turned up for the main beach, I've driven straight to the remote parts.

Havent seen another human since I got here.

 

[caLLous]

Tbh, I's suggest that if news of a potential treatment comes out that could massively reduce the impact of this, and your first reaction is "muh, but Trump", then your priorities are a little fucked up.

A *potential* treatment, with nothing in Trump's tweet to suggest quantities or ratios. He said the FDA had approved it, they hadn't. It's incredibly dangerous to just tell people to take a cocktail of drugs without them being tested for what they're being taken for. From the Forbes link you posted:

A French study that Trump promoted on his Twitter Saturday found early evidence that taking a combination of hydroxychloroquine and Zithromax could be effective in treating coronavirus, but the results do not prove that the two drugs can effectively treat coronavirus, and FDA commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn said that “We may have the right drug, but [chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine] might not be in the appropriate dosage form right now, and it might do more harm than good.”

 

[Yoni]

Tbh, I's suggest that if news of a potential treatment comes out that could massively reduce the impact of this, and your first reaction is "muh, but Trump", then your priorities are a little fucked up.

Except that Trumps information WAS wrong if you read @Wij post and the original tweek sent out by TrumpyWumpy

For the rational people on the forums (village idiots excluded) - can you read each others posts before jumping down each others throats.... Mods included tbfh!

 

[DaGaffer]

Tbh, I's suggest that if news of a potential treatment comes out that could massively reduce the impact of this, and your first reaction is "muh, but Trump", then your priorities are a little fucked up.

"Could". Not "will", "could". Trump, because he's basically a salesman and therefore incapable of dealing in anything but positive terms (especially about himself) can't sell "could", so he over promises. This is the last thing you need from a President right now.

 

[MYstIC G]

Mods included tbfh!

Every time you mention @Job you're posts are as bad as, if not worse than, everyone else here. Yet you're going to hold everyone to a standard and preach about behaviour?

Do go forth and multiply you hypocrite.