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rynnor

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Another badly flawed idea from a failing Government - again it will impose costs on the majority whilst the tiny minority who use their dogs as weapons will never buy it :p

There are plenty of existing dog laws they just arent enforced the same as most other New Labour laws like the mobile phone use while driving one.

There is no actual way to enforce this because there is no list of dog owners in the country so it will be up to people to opt in.

Most normal dog owners already have third party insurance because it comes as part of most dog health insurance policies.

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There are plenty of existing dog laws they just arent enforced the same as most other New Labour laws like the mobile phone use while driving one.

...which is perfectly reasonable. The number of people I still see with phones in their ears oblivious to the actions of traffic around them is still quite large. While the dog law might be of dubious benefit, the driving/mobile phone one is perhaps not the best choice to illustrate the point.
 

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...which is perfectly reasonable. The number of people I still see with phones in their ears oblivious to the actions of traffic around them is still quite large. While the dog law might be of dubious benefit, the driving/mobile phone one is perhaps not the best choice to illustrate the point.

Ah no - I would love to see the mobile phone law actually enforced - I just think producing a massive stream of un-enforceable laws is pretty stupid and done as a knee jerk reaction.
 

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Calm down, it's only one proposal amongst several.

What is required is a register of dog owners, and a license to keep pets of any kind.
 

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Calm down, it's only one proposal amongst several.

What is required is a register of dog owners, and a license to keep pets of any kind.

Do you have any idea how expensive and impractical a register of dog owners would be? Again only the law abiding ones would do it - it would again fail to tackle the irresponsible dog owners.

We actually have sufficient laws but the Police and CPS are unwilling to use them because they have other priorities - extra laws will not change this.

The Police could get most dangerous dogs off the streets very quickly if it was made a priority for them.
 

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Actually I'd imagine it would cost a hell of a lot more to simply have a crackdown on dogs on the street, and it's a very short term solution.

Having a phased introduction of licences for pets and a register to control them would be a lot more sensible imo.
 

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What's required is for the government to stop thinking it exists to regulate every aspect of our lives, and to simply STOP FUCKING INTERFERING AND LEAVE US ALONE.
 

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This just seems like yet another landgrab to assist insurance companies and generate government revenue by fining people who don't comply.

It will solve nothing, because the people keeping illegal breeds on estates already won't exactly give a fuck.
 

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What's required is for the government to stop thinking it exists to regulate every aspect of our lives, and to simply STOP FUCKING INTERFERING AND LEAVE US ALONE.

and how else are they going to generate money from small change schemes ? ;)
 

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I have third party dog insurance. No way it should be compulsary though. It is a lot to pay out every month.

If you can afford it, it is worth while just to save having any silly vets bills, because dogs are damn expensive, and ours are all pedigree, and therefore are prone to certain problems. The insurance we have also covers kennel fee's flee and worming treatments and free quarterly checkups at the vet. Having said that, for four dogs we are paying just under £100 per month on insurance.
 

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I dont like dogs but i cant see how they would police this until the dog had actually bitten someone. You cant have an insurance scheme without a registration scheme. As you would never be able to check that one was insured and another not.

They used to have dog licenses but got rid of them ... but to me it would be good to make some of the dog owners more responsible for their pets and the crap all over the place etc etc

But as it stands they wouldnt be able to enforce this
 

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Having worked as a postie and various other do to to door jobs i say a dam good idea.

You may like the idea of a dog in the garden scaring off people trying to enter your property, but dont go crying when you dont get your post or next door sues you cos it went for the little boy trying to get his ball.

Also restrictions on certain idiots having dogs is a good idea to boot, any dog is a short hop from a wild animal, as i discovered with a german shepard who went for me in the street once when i was small, no sign of an owner.....it was apparantly allowed to run free.
 

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A whole claims culture would spring up for dogs as a result of this -'have you been menaced or bitten by a dog - Manbitesdog will work for you on no win no fee basis'.

People who do pay will end up paying extra to cover the chavs who dont buy insurance.

And in the end there will be no effect on the number bitten each year :p

Edit - Personally my dog has £3 million 3rd party insurance so it wont actually cost me more.
 

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What's required is for the government to stop thinking it exists to regulate every aspect of our lives, and to simply STOP FUCKING INTERFERING AND LEAVE US ALONE.

Cos many people are stupid and dont seem to be able to survive on thier own?

EG: People dumping thier rubbish in the street THAT THEY LIVE IN!...seriously! When the fuck did that become acceptable?
 

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IT IS AN ABSOLUTE AND UTTER PILE OF STEAMING WANKSHIT!!!
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Sorry, but this kind of bollocks legislation is pissing me right orfffff.
 

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dont hold back now jup make your feelings known ... we know you are the shy and retiring type ;)
 

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ban animals in cities unless they are working in some capacity , if you wanna own an animal get the feck out of any residential area.
 

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ban animals in cities unless they are working in some capacity , if you wanna own an animal get the feck out of any residential area.
I dont mind people owning pets as long as they dont impact on others ... hate cats they kill all the birds and stuff and crap in yr garden

People get cats as a lazy option pet as they dont need looking after only feeding once a day. But then they let them out and inflict them on everyone else :(

I love my ferrets and rats and fish but i dont expect anyone else to or to put up with their crap or hunting ... I dont force them on people and I dont say silly things like dog owners do when they dont have control of their animals and they bound all over other people .. oh she likes you .. she wont hurt you ...

maybe but i dont want her anywhere near me cause i am allergic to them :p
 

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Having worked as a postie and various other do to to door jobs i say a dam good idea.

You may like the idea of a dog in the garden scaring off people trying to enter your property, but dont go crying when you dont get your post or next door sues you cos it went for the little boy trying to get his ball.

Also restrictions on certain idiots having dogs is a good idea to boot, any dog is a short hop from a wild animal, as i discovered with a german shepard who went for me in the street once when i was small, no sign of an owner.....it was apparantly allowed to run free.

Sorry, how would insurance have any effect on this? Your local pitbull-dragging chav doesn't insure his car either.
 

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Thousands of abandoned dogs will need to be dealt with because honest people who own them will not be able to afford it, the scum who use the dogs as weapons will not buy the insurance and carry on regardless.

Labour at its finest.
 

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I think the most revealing thing is if you look at pictures from your local dogs home - its 80-90% chav terriers that are up for rehoming.

Nothing in the Govts proposals affects the reality on the ground.
 

rynnor

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Couldn't you say that about 95% of labours policies since they've been in power?

Yup - its all about some sound bites and reassuring the electorate than about tackling real problems because those are tough.
 

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STOP FUCKING INTERFERING AND LEAVE US ALONE.

:iagree:

This is in addition to these utter utter fucktards wanting to impose a sea-angling licence.

If I was the religious type I'd be praying for a massive increase in terrorist actions against government buildings about now. It's a horrible feeling to justifiably hate the country you live in.

Ah well. As I'm in Oz I'm going to have to go to the beach tomorrow to see some pretty ass to cheer myself up. At least people don't need ass licences.
 

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Ah well. As I'm in Oz I'm going to have to go to the beach tomorrow to see some pretty ass to cheer myself up. At least people don't need ass licences.

heh...It wouldnt surprise me if Oz did have a license for that as they are more over regulated than the UK.
 

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Here's my Dangerous dog!

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