Cheating hibs (names and screenies included)

[old.Jierdan]

Originally posted by Arya
Btw as Tilde said ALbs/Mids can fall through walls too and did fall through walls, accusing peeps they would use this on purpose is quiet ridicoulus you have no evidence, plain simple.

If you don't want peeps in the walls I suggest you come with less peeps so we have better FPS

k, this night i'll try to take your relic alone so u won't get fps loss

 

[old.Rawkeer]

Originally posted by Novamir


untrue, i remember messages from the specific people you mention moaning about the lame alb zerg lagging them through walls, therefore you are making a fale statement



So, wait, you just explored and exploited a bug? So you can get into the wall, to see these people who have lagged there? How exactly you are going to tell GOA about this when you have abused a bug yourself and have admitted it I dont know.



no, what you saw was people so lagged to hell they had fallen inside the wall



nope, you can easily have 30 sec lags as I do with my PC

You have just admitted to finding and exploiting a bug, and therefore (as long as these forums can be used as evidence) I will report you.

You f*cking child.
Have a tantrum because you know these people are blatant cheaters and mallus has caught them out...

And as to those hibbies complaining about albs casting through doors, i distinctly remember (with screenies) 20+ albs dead at dun crauchon door due to PBAE spells cast by hibs. So stfu.

 

[old.Rawkeer]

Originally posted by Machi
Jeez what a cheek accusing Hibs of cheating at crim. You guys where shooting arrows at me through the gate to try and stop me paboeing.

We don't need to jump inside walls to defend crim because i can take the lot of you down as soon as you get to the inner gate.

And thats bug abusing too.

 

[old.Stix]

Regardless of the whole cheating issue, don't have a go at Mallus for actually using the bug to see who was there - he is one of the good guys, along with a few other albs on the board (eg. finster, khalen, tilde).

The issue that Mallus is getting at is that certain people were deliberately using the bug by coming back AND firing. Accidentally falling through, even several times, isn't really a problem - this happens to the best of us - but if someone starts firing while in the wall, it's damning IMO.

We can all agree that the game is a joke in terms of bugginess. I've been shot through doors, walls (e.g. little tower near the bowl), after I had stealthed again etc, and more often than not by alb players in emain skirmishes. However, *IF* any people do *deliberately* exploit the wall bug to their own advantage by firing at enemy players, then this is clearly wrong.

To Organ: your posts are, as usual, extremely distorted and unhelpful, particularly the generalisations about hib as a realm. Please stop. Same goes to other people looking for a cheap flame.

Finally, I think people from all realms are still interested in the Arvakr issue that was brought up earlier.

 

[old.yaruar]

Originally posted by tilde
Guys, my proposition - since u hibs are using it, and i heard some of Finster's team were using it while defending Arvark.

So, lets say its free-for-all to abuse the PBAE- and wallbug until patch and cut the whine ok?

The main line of defence for albion when we try to take back keeps is mezzing and area nuking through the door ;-)

We would trash them otherwise ;-)

Yaruar Drengr
http://www.ghostsofvalhalla.org/

 

[old.Twiztid]

Albs think you can shoot any target you like from in there too?
Actually you cant. There is 1 tiny spot outside which you can target (and only using f8 too) and this spot aint even at the gates, anyone not in this tiny hole is out of range/not in view and you cant fire or target.

 

[Killgorde]

Lets face facts guys...where there are games there are exploits and where there are exploits there are people who will use them. Sad as it may be...to some the need to win outweighs any moral code the majority feel obliged to adhere to.

Example: Catapulting AE effect under doors at keep raiders. I dont think Mythic had this in mind when they introduced siege weapons (although I could be wrong). To be sure a good way to farm great RP and also retain a keep, but is this in the spirit in which the game was designed to be played? Some may not see this as an exploit, but merely a tactic which gives results. Just depends on what "code of conduct" you want to play by for areas where the programming is less than perfect.

Not much point getting steamed up about it tbh, just have a "lamers gallery" somewhere to highlight the individuals concerned. I'm sure the same names will crop up consistently

Killgorde

GM - Nazgul

PS Emain was a blast yesterday. Thanks to all Albs and Hibs who were there for some great fights.

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by tilde
i heard some of Finster's team were using it while defending Arvark.

Forgot to say b4 but this is bollox.

If anyone had been doing that the rest of the team would have taken screenies and reported them via RightNow themselves, kicked them out of grp/Guild etc.


@ Niljindil y try to defend this by blaming mythic ?

The people doing it clearly know exactly what they're doing and ARE cheating.

Originally posted by Tylar

also your alb archers seem to be able to hit me when am inside the fort ?

So it's only Alb archers that can/do this then ?
Another pathetic attempt 2 deflect the fact that a number of Hibbies were knowingly cheating.

Originally posted by Brennik

First three times I just walked out of the wall back inside the keep, some groupmates needed healing and I didn't feel like trying to get a LOS on them while walking thru the wall.

The fourth was the special one. I fell thru and saw two bodies down there. No idea who they were but I assume they fell there thanks to the same low-fps "bug" than me. Of course I ressed them, then Mallus decides to attack me. I run back inside to the courtyard with Jerioth (the firby taking a nap in the "rezzing" picture). Mallus got the lurikeen AT NO POINT OF THE BATTLE DID JERI ASK ME TO DELIBERATELY FALL THRU THE WALL TO RESS THEM. I just happened to fall thru there thanks to the Alb horde outside, reducing my fps to abysmal figures.

At least there are some honest Hibbies.

 

[old.Machi]

pbaoe through the gate is not a bug or exploit it's supposed to work that way. It's one of the reasons you have infiltrators. Too bad for you my bodyguards kill them - haha

Deliberately pbaoe mezzing me then shooting me with arrows through the gate is an exploit. You can't complain about one bug when you use them yourselves - oh but shooting arrows at me through gate is ok because every realm does it - hmmm interesting logic (and I can't say I've seen any rangers stood behind me at the gates doing it).


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The Exploding Elf - Mad Caster

*Na Fianna* Hibernia , Excalibur.

 

[Khalen]

So that's why I sometimes see a bow sticking out of the wall... You can hit them if something is sticking out. I was wondering already why we got hit and not seeying any archer on the roof. Same btw with casters. I got mezzed last night without even 1 Hib in view (not even on the walls). And oh yeah I know his name and will report him as well. Sorry to say but all you guys jumped on the 1 man scout at Snowdonia fortress who could get up that high and not able to hit him so now it us that will jump on you using this bug. It's abusive if you make use of it. I have no trouble with people lagging through floors, happens to me as well with large raids but abusing it to get RP is not right.

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Machi
(and I can't say I've seen any rangers stood behind me at the gates doing it).
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That's cause they're all hiding in the walls

 

[Eleasias]

I've dropped there once myself too, went out in 2 secs. You can run straight back in and it's total bullshit that you would have to go out first, shame on you Hing for going there :< And if someone gets banned (which i highly doubt) arken should too for the snowdonia abuse :>

 

[old.Arya]

Bwah where the hell is the prob here ?? Face facts stop whining
YOU CAN FALL THROUGH WALLS, EVERYBODY CAN AND AS LONG AS YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE ( BESIDES SOME PICS WHERE PEEPS ARE OBVIOUS A VICTIM OF A BUG ) THEY DID IT ON PURPOSE WHICH YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ALL THIS ARGUING IS BOLLOX.

Btw show me the ALb/Mid that fall through a wall by accident and steps out of it to get killed. Everybody will think " hmmz I fell through wall they can't kill me I can res/kill them who cares, doesn't fell right ...... but anyways I will simply do it then "

Regards

P.S Soz for caps.

 

[Eleasias]

oh and btw pbaoe through door is not a bug =) still wonder how scouts can shoot you inside the fort tho :>

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Eleasias
I've dropped there once myself too, went out in 2 secs. You can run straight back in and it's total bullshit that you would have to go out first

100% right I've fallen through before and done the same, never targeted anyone and never even thought of trying and never will.

And if someone gets banned (which i highly doubt) arken should too for the snowdonia abuse :>

That was a long time ago but you chose not to report him to Right Now I beleive so no point mentioning it really

 

[Verena]

OMG, this post is completly stupid.

If you fall through the floor then there's no problem as long as you get out.

Every single one of you who falls through and shoots/fires at an enemy is a cheat and I can't believe that you're trying to cover that in your endless ramblings about how these keeps are bugged.

If you fall through get the hell outta there ASAP and there's no problem. If you stay there and even only shoot once and use it to your advantage you should get banned.

Cheaters don't belong in DAoC.

Shame on you and even bigger shame on the people who are trying to cover it up in endless rambling that got nothing to do with this.

This is comming from a hibbie and you guys make me sick.

 

[old.Odysseus]

The logic of some ppl sometimes astound me:

a) Someone once exploited <insert random bug here>
b) I found a bug

=> I exploit the bug

 

[old.Nol]

:/

hibs - Mallus is not in the wrong here, stop behavng like arses about him pointing out the cheating and saying rubbish like he should be reported, he could have used this exact same bug to farm tonnage of RP's, by stealthing in there constantly. If you can move out of the wall and back into the fort, then this is blatent exploitation and needs to be resolved somehow. If you fall through, get out.

albs - There is no ways that even 1% of hibernia uses this exploitation as a cheat, even Mallus pointed out that it was a bunch of regular people who abuse it. So stop making out that the whole of hibernia do it and rather point fingers at the few who do. Most of us never even knew that this bug could be exploited.

P.S. get some sleep please, I can not be asked to defend keeps at 4:00 Am anymore

organ grinder - waffle, rhubarb, whinge, moan, wine, bitch, blah, blah, blah....ramble etc.

ceixava - no, you are not the only one, imagine the poor albs, no wonder the keep trying to come live at crim, they are getting away from the wind bag.

 

[old.Finster]

WE ARE NOT USING IT!

at arvarkr we did a straight and fair defense. post screenies and evidence. bluejam wasn t even there! since when is some word of the same quality as these screenies.

and i m shocked that celtic fist, a guild i respected as opponents doesn t even have a conscience about doing exploiting on a planned basis. have you been so long relishing in your role of underdog that you don t care anymore?

guildmasters STOP this now. you re destroying the rep of your guilds!

 

[<Harle>]

Originally posted by Finster

(...)
and i m shocked that celtic fist, a guild i respected as opponents doesn t even have a conscience about doing exploiting on a planned basis. have you been so long relishing in your role of underdog that you don t care anymore?

guildmasters STOP this now. you re destroying the rep of your guilds!

If seeing a single member of a guild on a single screenshot falling victim to a bug qualifies as a whole guild doing "exploiting on a planned basis" then i really got to pity you.
The only people destroying anyones reputation here are the ones starting wild accusations.

 

[Blue Ix]

If I was there to stay I wouldn't leave because you were pointing in my direction - might very well mean that I was on top of the walls as you don't point up/down, just in the direction of whatever you're pointing at.

Oh and yes - you ever tried a Kyro II graphics card? No? Ok - means you don't have a clue what it's like in a 20 vs 20 fight for me.

Originally posted by K0nah


Sure u didn't decide against it when none of us could see u on the walls or battlements / windows and I started /pointing to u in the wall?

Oh and i spose a 20man attack + 20 man def lags u so badly u fell thru by accident?

As if...

 

[c0ngo]

Originally posted by Harle


If seeing a single member of a guild on a single screenshot falling victim to a bug qualifies as a whole guild doing "exploiting on a planned basis" then i really got to pity you.
The only people destroying anyones reputation here are the ones starting wild accusations.

If that screenie showed me doing that I can pretty much 100% guarantee that I'd no longer be in RB cause I'd have been kicked out, quite deservedly.

The actions of one Guild member CAN destroy the reputation of a Guild.

 

[old.Arya]

Originally posted by Finster
WE ARE NOT USING IT!

at arvarkr we did a straight and fair defense. post screenies and evidence.

Scrennies of somebody being victim of a bug are no evidence for cheating. What is so hard to get there ??????? You are as long inncoent as there is evidence, and accsuing peeps they cheat when you have some pics of them where they are victims of a bug is a bit pathetic, ( I don't say it is a good thing to stand in the wall and ress/kill peeps, but ask yourself "What would I do when I stood in the wall ? " Go back ? fine you are a fair player, Stand there kill/ress others ? well your choice I don't care).
Accusing all Hibbies to use it is also some prejudice. But it is so easy sometimes isn't it ?
Uh I forgot you are from Bavaria so you are used to that (yes, yes also a prejudice but maybe helps you to realize what you are doing here with accusing whole CF and other guilds to use this bug on purpose).

 

[old.yaruar]

Originally posted by C0ngo


If that screenie showed me doing that I can pretty much 100% guarantee that I'd no longer be in RB cause I'd have been kicked out, quite deservedly.

The actions of one Guild member CAN destroy the reputation of a Guild.

Indeed we have had to regrettably part company with some very good players because they lowered our reputation with the other guilds in our realm.

If any member of the Ghosts is caught exploiting a bug, disrespecting an honerable player, not honoring an agreement with anyone, harrassing or abusing they will feel (after discussion) the mighty troll boot of our leader.

We have made a lot of friends in other guilds and seem to have some level of respect (at some points making up to 20 percent of raiding parties which ain't bad when we had less than 20 players online and it was late... ;-) )
We maintain this respect by playing fairly and playing as team players.

Any guild that doesn't discipline players for bug and player abusing loses all respect from me and hopefully from my Guildmates.

Yaruar Drengr
35th LVL Stumpy Thane
http://www.ghostsofvalhalla.org/

 

[Blue Ix]

Originally posted by tilde


Dude?! U really think they've got time for this?
And if they grap on to it, it'd prolly take 2-3years before action could be done.

Hmm, patch isnt finished yet so say 4-5years

I know - did they even take any action against those guys who stealthed into other realms using the fact that guardspawns were smaller in 1.36 compared to other patches?
I think one or two of them got like a ban for two days. Puh..

These things will most probably have to be taken care of by the playerbase as GOA can't do just about anything right - as I'm a guildleader myself, not on excalibur but on Prydwen, I know I would tell the people who have/had done such a thing to either leave my guild right away or if the thing he/she has done was minor - ask him to never do it again and leave it at that.

 

[old.Finster]

i m not accusing CF of doing general exploitation. but i expect their GM to do as i would do in my guild. get the culprits in a chatgroup and

1. tell them either they re fired or
2. they please never do this again by kick threat.

all i ask here is an honest: 'sorry we will not do it again', but somehow there is a wild west mentality here as GOA has not yet banned ppl for exploiting. please preserve some shreds of honour!

 

[<Harle>]

Originally posted by Finster
i m not accusing CF of doing general exploitation.

Originally posted by Finster
and i m shocked that celtic fist doesn t even have a conscience about doing exploiting on a planned basis.

 

[old.Twiztid]

Our GM is on holiday

 

[old.Badger]

Found a problem with all this mallus

Spoke to Weilen today at work RL, didn't mention you at first but he described the event and how he fell in.

He sat rested and before he had full hp and chose to walk into the keep (you're right on that you can walk in or out from inside the wall btw) he got to 80% and was 'one shotted' by a stealther called mallus :/

So you used the inside of the wall as a means to kill any grey hibs who fell through thus gaining an advantage over the defenders----- in english... you bugabused too?

By all means please do report this on rightnow I can't wait to see your explanation.

FFS if you're gonna complain about it don't use it yourself LMAO.

 

[old.MallusTheGimp]

Try reading the whole thread.