Cheating hibs (names and screenies included)

[old.Ambidexterous]

So lets just say we where there with some 20-30, and you guys where there with 50(just a gues dunno exactly cause i never stood on wall till end of raid) or more.

Half of hibs stand on wall to shoot.And most of that falls through due to lag/fpsloss. That would meen we would be left with 20 of our 30 hibs alive if they walked out and let themselves be killed.


Is it weird we dont do that then?

 

[old.Pooky]

roflmao novamir, you better report your own poeple aswell then otherwise your are nothing but a pathetic hippocrit.

 

[old.Kainz]

Jeez, please ban my ass too considering 90% of keep raids result in me falling through walls/stairs/under keeps etc lol.

In bad lag situations such as raids shit happens, and please albs don't tell me it hasn't happened to you lot as well.

 

[old.Tylar]

LOL go Nov


Funny though when I lag off the wall I fall into the albs

also your alb archers seem to be able to hit me when am inside the fort ?

 

[Eblessair]

Originally posted by tilde
Guys, my proposition - since u hibs are using it, and i heard some of Finster's team were using it while defending Arvark.

So, lets say its free-for-all to abuse the PBAE- and wallbug until patch and cut the whine ok?

pbaoe is not bugged

 

[old.MallusTheGimp]

LOL! Novamir I was not abusing the bug. I was simply falling through the walls using a trick to take screenshots and flush people out who were cheating. I DID NOT stand there with my xbow and shoot people, something which i could have easily done.



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Originally posted by MallusTheGimp
They did not lag and fall through by accident.
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'untrue, i remember messages from the specific people you mention moaning about the lame alb zerg lagging them through walls, therefore you are making a fale statement'

OK, some of the people may have fallen through by accident but the majority of the people kept on coming back (around 15 hibs).

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After asking around I found a way to fall through the walls anytime you like
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'So, wait, you just explored and exploited a bug? So you can get into the wall, to see these people who have lagged there? How exactly you are going to tell GOA about this when you have abused a bug yourself and have admitted it I dont know.'

Was just trying to find out how it was being done. If i wished to exploit this bug please tell me why i would report this? I am trying to get people to stop doing this as it is completely unfair

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and I saw all the people doing it.
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'no, what you saw was people so lagged to hell they had fallen inside the wall'

No, i did see people doing it. Not gonna explain further because i don't want everyone doing it to get inside the walls.

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Even if they did happen to lag and fall through, they could easily step outside of the wall instead of staying inside killing people with no risk of dying.
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'nope, you can easily have 30 sec lags as I do with my PC
You have just admitted to finding and exploiting a bug, and therefore (as long as these forums can be used as evidence) I will report you.'

Well I was in there for a lot longer then 30sec and pretty strange for lagged people to stay in the same spot for ages plinking arrows into attackers. I actually sat down and watched people stay there for well over 5 minutes continually moving and killing people (a small hint that they weren't just lagged). After flushing out people the exact SAME people would come back, as i mentioned i caught Hing 4 or 5 times down there in a space of 5 minutes. I have around 25 screenies altogether that I can get uploaded if you insist? Maybe some illustrated diagrams would help you understand?

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LOL, you can't see the wall boundaries on those pictures, they could just as well be outside and you are fabricating this whole thing
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Thats kinda the whole idea - you dont see the boundaries so you can shoot and walk through the walls.

Novamir, for some reason you are just unwilling to listen to me and help solve this problem. Instead you are just encouraging people to do it and then blame it on lag later. I get lagged and fall through the stairs and walls a lot during keep raids, especially when we are attacking and I am inside. I normally cant even get up the stairs when I am uncovered inside so I die pretty quick. However, if I ever fell through the walls I would immediately get out of them because i knew it wasn't fair to stay inside and kill people. Either way, if you fall through by accident or on purpose you should still walk out from the wall, correct? Well people were clearly not doing this and thats what I am trying to point out to you.

I did not start this thread to get people banned. I just want people to stop abusing the bug. And if people are banned for this then ban me as well if you like, I dont really give a sh*t TBH, i got better things to do then to try and prove to you I am actually trying to help keep raids as a whole.

 

[old.Nol]

hmmmm

tbh - I can see both sides, hibs that fall in are not prepared to come out because they will be killed...

The issue we have here is with people that consistantly exploit the bug, I think that's up to each hib guild to sort.

 

[Feldegast]

Scenario: Getting up on wall, going some jumping to get folks in LOS, Fell through Mezz went of.. ran up again repeat. On occasion I rezzed some ppl, think I even fell to my death one time.

--> And also got killed by an alb inside the wall (yes it was inside because it was a melee attack)<--

And I quite sure I know who did it.. :whip:

I wish Mythic could fix their gfx engine.. cause its impossible to do anything but small fights.. sux

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

if you fall thrpough the wall and stay there attacking mids/hibs/albs doesnt matter what realm u play you ARE abusing a bug . this is ust a naother lame ass hib tactic they starting to become low down dirty scum . as for falling in wall and staying there cos you can only exit bygoin OUTSIDE keep is a load of bullshit i must have the shittyest copu ever 500 spd aol dial up and a built in cack gfx card . i can NEVER get to the turrets above a relic keep and if i go down a lil stepup a wall i fall through .. for example when mids/hibsallied to take our keeps a cple of days ago . we thought u was gearing for a rleic attack hence large army gathered at excaliber for defence i was on my scout "lvl 20" and wanted to get a spot above the relic door to the turrets .. no bs i tried for over 1 hr to get there but because of constant falling through floor i failed .. BUT i could exit keep ANY way i could go stright inside orstraight outside ..

and i also like the way hibs try to jusitfy it saying they had to stay there or be killed u can c the hibs are clearly inside the wall . so dont try the bs exscuse that u cant see wall bounderys . anybody who can honestly say them hibs are outside the wall are either blind or a complete fool trtying to make a valid exscuse t0 cover there cheating friends tactics ... as for us hiding in walls to kill/mezz/rez since when have hibs attacked a relic/keep whilst albs are inside ? from my memory hib has NEVER tried to take a alb keep with a defense army inside .. only peeps who have are middys and im sure they havent encountered the same cheating as you hibbys are obviouslty exploiting . as mallus said he fell down and saw u there and stayed taking ss's . so why bother to try deny your bug abusing ? im sure even the middys are laughing at you now for your lame tactics . never mind which way you look at it . this is blatant cheating ...

i hope you all get ya rp's cut cos obviously if u got caught tonight we aitn got a clue how long you have been doing it . for all we know u been doing it for a long time .

cheats are what every game can do without .

btw this isnt pointed at all hibs just the cheats who abused the bug .

 

[old.Odysseus]

My experience on that siege:

I am positioned besides the army, stealthed, shooting any hibs that jump or climb to a firing position, getting quite a few nasty crits on most hib archers.

After an hour or so, suddenly I see only half the people on the wall compared to earlier and I wonder, cuz I still se deathmessages originating from the (in)famous hib archers.

Funny thing is I NEVER see them jumping above the parapet as they used to. Neither are they standing on roofs, in windows or other visible places.

Smart as I am, I starts shooting those left on the wall, I just found it quite peculiar.

 

[old.Odysseus]

Oh and one more thing:

There has been lots of claims that the lag caused ppl to fall down there - so it wasnt intentional. Thats fully acceptable.

What is NOT acceptable is when u start hammering arrows/mezz/crap on my army from there. Then u are in violation of the rules.

Why?
a) The possibility of falling into a wall must be considered a bug.
b) Exploiting bugs is against the rules.
c) Exploitation means using a bug to your own advantage.
d) Getting RP is an advantage.

When u sum the above 4 statements (whích can in no way be contradicted - read the rules), u come to the conclusion that gainin RP from falling throgh the wall is punishable.

 

[Brennik]

Ooh, and you got me on my better side when taking that screenshot of me ressing the people!

Ok, here comes the truth, I know most of you won't believe it anyway, but I don't care...

I fell thru the wall four times when trying to jump and target people for ress outside (fix the bloody line-of-sight already!). The jumping trick I learned from none other than some Alb mages some weeks earlier, thanks for that! Too bad I can't ae root people with it, the bloody spell checks for LOS when starting and stopping the cast

First three times I just walked out of the wall back inside the keep, some groupmates needed healing and I didn't feel like trying to get a LOS on them while walking thru the wall.

The fourth was the special one. I fell thru and saw two bodies down there. No idea who they were but I assume they fell there thanks to the same low-fps "bug" than me. Of course I ressed them, then Mallus decides to attack me. I run back inside to the courtyard with Jerioth (the firby taking a nap in the "rezzing" picture). Mallus got the lurikeen AT NO POINT OF THE BATTLE DID JERI ASK ME TO DELIBERATELY FALL THRU THE WALL TO RESS THEM. I just happened to fall thru there thanks to the Alb horde outside, reducing my fps to abysmal figures.

Thank you, that was my defensive statement. Take it for what you want. Just stating that I *will* not deliberately try to fall the bloody wall, I want to stay on top of it so I can ress the people outside. Too bad targetting them requires me to jump (again, fix the motherloving LOS!) thus usually ending with me landing thru the wall and requiring me to run back to the top of the wall for another try

 

[Blue Ix]

Add me to that list if you will - I fell through today at Bolg, thought I was going back to bind in a second but I heard no splash sound (like when you fall through gfx at other times).

I was just about to try and get back into the keep but then I realized that I could make some rps out of it - mind you I'm a very very rp-greedy midget with a bow..

To make a long story short I made ~500 rps shooting through a wall instead of doing the usual stealth-crit-duck thing up on the walls. I wont try to reproduce the wall thing and if I ever fall through again I wont be in there long enough to fire my bow - it just wouldn't be fair.

[EDIT]
Oh and, as I exploited and such I guess I should be punished, go ahead and report me if you want to, this post is the proof of what I have done - if GOA would do something about it I wouldn't be anything but happy, really. ;/~

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

i laugh at these hibs trying to explain there blatant bug abuse
never mind how you look at it if you fell by accident or on purpose you stayed there and ABUSED a bug . im sure every hib who CHEATED will try some bullshit exscuse that he fell because of the fps .are you saying this has never happened to you before ? or you have been falling through keep walls and BUG ABUSING reguler when we attack your keeps when u r defending them ? the funnyest exscuse yet is the one where he said he could ONLY get ack inside keep if he went OUTSIDE the wall to get back in LMFAO imsure some dumb ass hib will beat it with an even lamer exscuse ..

 

[<Harle>]

Originally posted by Organ-Grinder
(...) the funnyest exscuse yet is the one where he said he could ONLY get ack inside keep if he went OUTSIDE the wall to get back in LMFAO imsure some dumb ass hib will beat it with an even lamer exscuse ..

(...)

OK, if you are too dumb to actually read then I will help you a bit. In my post I stated that i never had this bug ( superior Hardware ), so i couldn't speak from experience, but IF ( conditional clause) you could only exit to the front, then I WOULD understand people staying inside. End of discussion, try reading next time before you spam the clap-smilie.

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

Originally posted by Anneli
mallus personaly i ALWAYS shoot from wall cose it is safer i NEVER before falled down there at that siedge i falled down wall 4-5 times 3 times only way out was go outside crim then stealth my way throu alb army to gate keeper did that 3 times when failed 4-th i desided to stay there

i was refering to this exscuse not yours dummy i know when they fall in wall they can go outside or inside the keep everytime cos it happens to me reguler that i fall down into wall or through a walkway down to the floor .and everytime i can go in or out of keep . thusthis being imo a silly invalid exscuse for bug abuse .

 

[old.Nol]

sheezuz

organ grinder you are a windbag...i can't even be asked to read your spewage anymore. Your posts cheapen entire threads, you obviously have some serious issues...

want some lameness - it's 4:10 AM and albs are invading.

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

cool thnx for ignoring my posts do you really think i care ? if you think i do then u guessed wrong . yes i rabble A LOT . but sometimes its just trying to get my point across . but these forums aint a popularity contest . if somebody cheats ill flame em if they are lame ill flame em if they done summin worthy of props ill give em props .. its called freedom of speech im sure some of your posts are a pos or dont make sense dont see me moaning do you ? :whip:

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

Re: sheezuz

want some lameness - it's 4:10 AM and albs are invading. [/B][/QUOTE]

want some more lameness ? the hibs are there defending the game is 24 hrs doesnt stop just because you goto bed .

 

[K0nah]

Originally posted by Blue Ix
Add me to that list if you will - I fell through today at Bolg, thought I was going back to bind in a second but I heard no splash sound (like when you fall through gfx at other times).

I was just about to try and get back into the keep but then I realized that I could make some rps out of it - mind you I'm a very very rp-greedy midget with a bow..

To make a long story short I made ~500 rps shooting through a wall instead of doing the usual stealth-crit-duck thing up on the walls. I wont try to reproduce the wall thing and if I ever fall through again I wont be in there long enough to fire my bow - it just wouldn't be fair.

[EDIT]
Oh and, as I exploited and such I guess I should be punished, go ahead and report me if you want to, this post is the proof of what I have done - if GOA would do something about it I wouldn't be anything but happy, really. ;/~

Sure u didn't decide against it when none of us could see u on the walls or battlements / windows and I started /pointing to u in the wall?

Oh and i spose a 20man attack + 20 man def lags u so badly u fell thru by accident?

As if...

 

[tilde]

Originally posted by Blue Ix

[EDIT]
Oh and, as I exploited and such I guess I should be punished, go ahead and report me if you want to, this post is the proof of what I have done - if GOA would do something about it I wouldn't be anything but happy, really. ;/~

Dude?! U really think they've got time for this?
And if they grap on to it, it'd prolly take 2-3years before action could be done.

Hmm, patch isnt finished yet so say 4-5years

 

[Brennik]

As to the "rofl was that the first time you fell thru the wall or have you been doing it long", yea, I've been doing it long. Not the first keepdefense against the Albs, remember? I'm starting to get pissed at how regularly I keep falling thru the floor when there's 50+ people outside...

 

[ceixava]

am i the only one that thinks organ should spend more time exping and less time talking utter bullshit on the forums?

 

[old.Machi]

Jeez what a cheek accusing Hibs of cheating at crim. You guys where shooting arrows at me through the gate to try and stop me paboeing.

We don't need to jump inside walls to defend crim because i can take the lot of you down as soon as you get to the inner gate.


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The Exploding Elf - Mad Caster

*Na Fianna* Hibernia , Excalibur.

 

[belth]

Originally posted by Machi
We don't need to jump inside walls to defend crim because i can take the lot of you down as soon as you get to the inner gate.

Doesn't change the fact some of you hibs did stay inside the wall and farmed rps, no matter the way they got there, be it lag or intentional.

 

[old.Lythande]

Before you albs continue flaming the Hibs I'd like an answer to Bluejams question about Aravakr. Not really the smartest thing in the world to go scream bloody murder about a thing you yourself(Albion) is doing, if that's what the Albs at Aravakr did of course.


EDIT: Typos

 

[Triskin]

LOL! Novamir I was not abusing the bug. I was simply falling through the walls using a trick to take screenshots and flush people out who were cheating.

it's still cheating though and yes you DID kill people in the walls , too bad my logs dont show your position

 

[old.MallusTheGimp]

Read my posts, if it is deemed that i was abusing the bug to kill cheating people then take action to get me banned from the game if you wish. Unlike them, i was not killing people outside of the wall, only the ones inside so they had a chance to defend themselves. Would you suggest next time i just carry on my way and let people continually kill off my army from inside walls?

One last thing, I am in Royal Bavarians and we made a clear point NOT to use this bug. The fact that you can sometimes shoot through walls is not in question here - all realms do it and it's not possible to fix until the patch. If you target someone in plain view then they run out of view you can often still shoot them (happens to me loads being an inf). I could go on moaning about people shooting me after I have restealthed (happens a lot) but thats besides the point.

Could everyone just agree to telling people in guild chat to stop doing this and if they fall through the walls, could they kindly walk back to their own side immediately.

 

[old.Organ-Grinder]

Originally posted by ceixava
am i the only one that thinks organ should spend more time exping and less time talking utter bullshit on the forums?

mmmmm wtf it gotta do with you ? im not one of those people who sit in the same camp hour after hour lvling on same mobs for slow ass exp .. im sure i can have just as much fun in this game without getting to lvl 50 "although in future i do intend on doing so" its not all about rp's getting to lvl 50 . being able to kill everything in emain some of us play these games to have fun and make friends ., which atm im have and am doing .. as for my posts if you read em yes i flame u hibs/mids a lot but imo it is well deserved by the cheats and bug abusers . i typew/talk to much i admit but as i said i havea right to my opinion so i do so . if you dont like my posts dont read em . or is it because the truth hurts? cos everytime u hibs /mids try to justify cheating i ussually flame u and prove u otherwise "although i am wrong also" thus why u dislike my posts so much as i said i u dont like my threads if u see a post with my name skipit and dont read . i dont give a flying fuck what you mids/hibs think of me ,and i expect the feeling is mutual . so shut up the whining scroll down past my threads and dont read em . your just acting like the typical bitch always moaning .

 

[old.Arya]

Btw as Tilde said ALbs/Mids can fall through walls too and did fall through walls, accusing peeps they would use this on purpose is quiet ridicoulus you have no evidence, plain simple.

If you don't want peeps in the walls I suggest you come with less peeps so we have better FPS