Vodkafairy
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Smilewhenyousaythat said:Ah - but i have the benefit of all tests, data and stats on my side
but not reality
Smilewhenyousaythat said:Ah - but i have the benefit of all tests, data and stats on my side
Smilewhenyousaythat said:Midgard insists this is perfectly fair and balanced because - well who knows.
Smilewhenyousaythat said:Ah but here lies the rub.
AE stun with no immunity timer was grossly overpowered. Midgard insisted it was not, and that everyone else was using tactics. it was rightly adjusted.
Zerkers and SBs - LA users were overpowered due to incorrect growth rates. midgard insisted it wasn't and was balanced. tests showed otherwise and it was rightly adjusted.
End regen allowed midgard perma speed6. Midgard insisted this was not unbalancing. It was righlty nerfed.
Savages were doing silly damage with self buffs that had little cost. Midgard insisted this was normal and right. Tests showed incorrect swing rates and self buff costs were correctly upped.
Warlocks do stupid instadeath damage at silly ranges. Midgard insists this is perfectly fair and balanced because - well who knows. Can you see where we're going with this.....
In fact, he should fuck right off anyway.Lethania said:And unless you have some statistical proof that the majority of midgard players felt these cases werent overpowered, you can fuck right off with your midgard generalization.
Vodkafairy said:but not reality
As mention earlier a warlock can eat thrue DI3 in 5 seconds and get the kill. And rely on a ra thats up once every 10min to get so called "immunity" against a class is kinda poor.Beltorak said:Concerning Warlocks:
I suppose as a solo/duo char they would rock cuz of dmg and utility but in grps with some decent healers in opposing grp they would be useless because of DI2-3 will absorb impact dmg.Then again i have never meet em so i wouldnt know
Fana said:(think warlock main damage type is matter and runies cant debuff that)
Smilewhenyousaythat said:Who cares about reality when you're right
Vodkafairy said:yeah, reality is you're just a bad infil and you blame it on the class. but you don't wanna realise that
Old.Ilum said:Dont think Vampiir or Bainshees will be a standard class in hib groups, but Warlocks are uber and will deffo make their mark in RvR.
HAHABelomar said:In fact, he should fuck right off anyway.
Vodkafairy said:infact dw is the best line because of superiour styles, just like DW is superiour for assassins because of dual shadows
Vodkafairy said:and its a known fact that spec af is > haste
Konah said:1v1 or self-defence dw is best line yep. grp rvr cd/hth >>>> dw
heh, i´d like to see the proof. i can get 17% haste from a charge, u can get 20% haste from a bot. i can get 75af+toa from a bot u can get 75af+toa from a charge. advantage hibernia.
not to mention 93af is about -9%dmg and 20% haste IS 20% more dmg :kissit:
Lethania said:b) your handily "forgetting" the little fullspec bonus that clerics have since they have a specline that gives them the buff, advantage albionelolol
Lethania said:a) what happened to la?
b) your handily "forgetting" the little fullspec bonus that clerics have since they have a specline that gives them the buff, advantage albionelolol
c) 20% haste is ONLY 20% more dmg, IF you only attack unstyled and over some time, do you attack unstyled much kewnah?
Konah said:not to mention 93af is about -9%dmg and 20% haste IS 20% more dmg
Vodkafairy said:93 af is infact a lot more than -9% damage, its closer to -15%. also, haste is FAR from 20% extra damage for assassins, since we have such high damage styles its about 10%. also, lower crits
Konah said:a) la has no useful grp styles, posnl snares/stuns, u get rabid-hamster tho and an ok rear chain.
b) and that fullspec bonus means what exactly? the same fullspec bonus the drood gets on his haste buff perchance?
c) short answer: rofl, tbh.
long answer: 20% haste is 20% MORE base dmg (the majority of the dmg comonent in 95% of cases, unless ur a savage or using cs styles) and style dmg is constant over-time fyi. also offhand dmg is 100% unstyled... rarely a pally in grp (atm) so yes i do attack unstyled if the targets on low hps and no time to break off to pop a pot. or when some bast is spinning like a roulette wheel and i miss my style/s
[NO]Subedai said:most dmg is base dmg, espeically if ur trying to get high swing speed.
for example my berserker has a cap of 200 base dmg on each hand. now obviously offhand is always non style dmged. most my styles are like 330-420 or summin on their dmg caps. so u can see that most dmg is base dmg and that haste helps quite alot.
Konah said:thought that was what i said? but thanks for the backup(?)
@ vf, i tested on pally, no af buff, then self af, then af chant and per 100af = -10% or so, it maybe a lil more on a low af class, i wouldnt know.
Smilewhenyousaythat said:C'mon vodka - anyone whos played an assassin for any period of time knows that the best assassin post RR5 in OF was a shade, and the best assassin post RR5 in NF is a shade.