bye dragonfang :p

[Critsii]

 

[Critsii]

 

[Critsii]

on a lighter note, hastener speed is now 4 minutes, df has been nerfed, my insta dd delves for 100 and my castable delves for 179, yup this looks like a good change

 

[Gordonax]

u promised us at max 1 week, now we have it still after 2 months, wheres ur promise mate ? o riiight nm its u : >

This from the realm that couldn't actually do a primetime raid.

 

[Nait]

This from the realm that couldn't actually do a primetime raid.

Here we go again
Same shit over and over again uke:

 

[Gordonax]

I'd say "remove stealth from the game" but then all the whining shits in all realms would come and pollute every non-stealther thread with rubbish. At least I can simply ignore any thread that has anything to do with the so-called "Stealth Wars".

Can someone explain why I see more whining from stealthers (and I mean in all realms) than any other type of player? Is it something to do with the "omfg l333t ninja!" mentality? Given that they're a relatively small part of the active population (and I don't mean the once-a-month roll out the stealther cos you can't get a group types) they sure produce a lot of noise.

 

[Gordonax]

Here we go again
Same shit over and over again uke:

Hey, wasn't me that brought up relic raids, and I'm happy not to mention it again. But if someone wants to start that one again, I'm fine with it. And uke: all you like - you know what I say is true.

Or are you talking about dragonfang whines?

 

[censi]

this is stage one of the infiltraitor assimilation.

If i know mythic like like to let people down gently. (ie spread the nerfs over a few patches)

Wait for the rest of it cuz its incoming

This nerf is not that bad tbh.

 

[nick]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

[Glottis]

50 slash, 50dw is not so much fun really.
It is against SB's, but kind of crap against NS. Well, most infs are kind of crap against a decent rr lvl NS, just cause they are overpowered. Don't understand why Mythic gives them any kind of loving It might make Cyclodia think he can fight an equal lvl inf though, so that might be nice, instead of ganking endless streams of unbuffed epic wearing wardens and making movies of it.
Shame to see it being reduced to a lvl 25 style, without any form of love being given to the rest of the line.
What I would have liked to see was Mythic growing a brain, and making the CS line more intresting, so 50slash/thrust and 50dw was not the best option, but rather PA helped...
The debuff doing as much damage as the pa kind of ruins it.
Regards, Glottis

 

[Kalba]

The debuff doing as much damage as the pa kind of ruins it.
Regards, Glottis

Yep, that´s a prob number uno. Anyone want to solve this?

 

[Flimgoblin]

It's a great change for thrust mercs too - no longer have to find space for it on your quickbar.

 

[Jox]

A massive punch with the nerfbat, lol.

And a good thingy; I thought we would have to wait for the frontier before anything would happen, but this patch will prolly be included next time we patch.

9 sec -> 5 sec -> 44% lesser dmg -> you may even survive with purge down.

As it should be.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Rofl

And the SB community thinks a single infil will quit or reroll because of this?

Instead of the stun giving 3 shots, it now gives 2 - the hit bonus remains he same.

This is nothing - except a free respec Slash here I come!

 

[Belomar]

Hehe, spot the PLed infiltrator warder who thinks playing an uber class means he is skilled. xD

 

[Calo]

Hey, wasn't me that brought up relic raids, and I'm happy not to mention it again. But if someone wants to start that one again, I'm fine with it. And uke: all you like - you know what I say is true.

Or are you talking about dragonfang whines?

actually ur realmmate started it so euhr , u always think u know all the facts but everytime u dont... wd !

 

[Kinad]

A massive punch with the nerfbat, lol.

And a good thingy; I thought we would have to wait for the frontier before anything would happen, but this patch will prolly be included next time we patch.

9 sec -> 5 sec -> 44% lesser dmg -> you may even survive with purge down.

As it should be.

Legen heat weapons popping 350+ a hit, 5 sec stun(maybe), higher ws, much higher debuffed ws.

Guess you still will be owned pretty bad after the nerf. I doubt any sane infil will go slash and take the lower ws and bad debuffs, heat weapons will still rape you, 'as it should be'.

NS's will be equal or better than infils depending on ap/purge and who gets stun in first, but sbs will still be shit, 'as it should be'.

 

[Critsii]

nope, i can drop rr9 infils without ap easily now :<
rrnoob scouts even easier

 

[Kinad]

nope, i can drop rr9 infils without ap easily now :<
rrnoob scouts even easier

Infil = better ws, better af and atm much better stun style, but ofc
you dd and not to forget skill is what makes you drop rr9 infils with such
ease it amazes all of us.

Yes they will all soon use the legen heat weapons, and then ....

Btw, i think you will be surprised next time you meet some of the scouts in
melee, it simply sux to go from 36 % resist to -2 %.

 

[Tharion]

omg cry

Nice to see buffbot's in RvR debuffing enemys.

DF nerf, yaawn.

 

[Gordonax]

actually ur realmmate started it so euhr , u always think u know all the facts but everytime u dont... wd !

Judas mentioned that it wouldn't matter when we got the relics back. You were the one crowing about how Albs couldn't mount a relic raid. And when you do that, I'm perfectly happy to remind that you couldn't actually mount a primetime relic raid.

Oh, and by the way, if you're going to flame me, try learning to write something approaching English first. "u", "euhr", and "ur" are yet to be found in a dictionary.

 

[minime_]

I.N.T.E.R.R.E.S.T.I.N.G

NS will finally be on top of the food chain, they deserved it

 

[Kinad]

I.N.T.E.R.R.E.S.T.I.N.G

NS will finally be on top of the food chain, they deserved it

Ns's will be top if they have their ra's up, but these are most likely to change
in frontiers, giving infils the edge again because of the higher specpoints
and because alb has utility stealther in the mincer.

Also there is the matter of ml's where infils have access to battlemaster,
which might with grapple, bodyguard and the essence styles give them the
upper hand. In small stealther encounters i think battlemaster a lot better than stormlord.

 

[noaim]

Rofl

And the SB community thinks a single infil will quit or reroll because of this?

Instead of the stun giving 3 shots, it now gives 2 - the hit bonus remains he same.

This is nothing - except a free respec Slash here I come!

A while back mids end regen was nerfed to being concbased instead of timebased. Do you want to know how many zerks that said "HAHA WE DIDNT GET NERFED, THIS IS NOTHING!!!" then?

 

[Aybabtu]

this nerf will hit the retard warder infil zerg only, whom are spaming garotte dragonfang and runing round unstealthed when they see a stealther close.... but a good enough infi will still pwn his opponents tbh, but at least will die after pa-cd most likely as they should(at least if infi pa-cds me, there is like 5% chance that i will win, with current df infis rates are 50%+).

Ofc.... because we all know that CD doesn't give stun immunity

 

[Aybabtu]

nope, i can drop rr9 infils without ap easily now :<
rrnoob scouts even easier

Ap didn't save you agaist me and i'm only rr7

 

[Jox]

Legen heat weapons popping 350+ a hit, 5 sec stun(maybe), higher ws, much higher debuffed ws.

Guess you still will be owned pretty bad after the nerf. I doubt any sane infil will go slash and take the lower ws and bad debuffs, heat weapons will still rape you, 'as it should be'.

NS's will be equal or better than infils depending on ap/purge and who gets stun in first, but sbs will still be shit, 'as it should be'.

"Legen heat weapons popping 350+ a hit" And? we sbs will also use them.

"higher ws" Wrong, its alot harder to overcap both dex and str then just str so many norse sz with overcaped strength will have higher ws(me for example) than most infils.

"Guess you still will be owned pretty bad after the nerf." lol

"heat weapons will still rape you, 'as it should be'." Wrong again! se above.

"but sbs will still be shit, 'as it should be'" Ofc you like it that way, how would a bitter rp-cow like you be able to beat anything on equal basis?

 

[Kinad]

A while back mids end regen was nerfed to being concbased instead of timebased. Do you want to know how many zerks that said "HAHA WE DIDNT GET NERFED, THIS IS NOTHING!!!" then?

Its a rather big nerf, but since toa + legen heat weapons also will increase damage a lot, 5 sec might be more than enough to beat the crap out of a sb.

Stun length only important if you cant kill you opponent in the time his stunned, and sbs will be going from 36 % resist to max 11-16 % in toa depending on heat resist on races in mid(cant be arsed to look it up).

If these weapon procs sbs could face 40 % increase in damage taken,
so maybe 9 sec before is better than 5 sec after toa. Did i mention all saracens have 5 % bonus to heat to start with.

"Legen heat weapons popping 350+ a hit" And? we sbs will also use them.

"higher ws" Wrong, its alot harder to overcap both dex and str then just str so many norse sz with overcaped strength will have higher ws(me for example) than most infils.

"Guess you still will be owned pretty bad after the nerf." lol

"heat weapons will still rape you, 'as it should be'." Wrong again! se above.

"but sbs will still be shit, 'as it should be'" Ofc you like it that way, how would a bitter rp-cow like you be able to beat anything on equal basis?

Sb + 25 points overcap debuffed for 118 gives 93 effective debuff points.
Infil + no overcap at all debuffed for 118 gives 59 effective debuff points.

Thrust infils atm do damage with 10 % penalty, sbs with 0 %, with lhw in play sbs lose that 10 % bonus, and as i pointed out saracens has as racial 5 % to heat, what do norse get ?.

On top of this comes the higher specpoints infils get, which allows them better to use the bad utility lhw, saving lots of sc utility if needed.

5 or 9 sec wont make a difference when comparing sb to infil, but if you look
at ns its another matter. They got a 10 % increase in damage against both
sbs and infils, they have same stun as infils and better ra's (for now).

 

[Belomar]

Ap didn't save you agaist me and i'm only rr7

Now, now, don't you go and pop Salty's bubble, you naughty boy, he was feeling sooo good about himself.

 

[swords]

WOOT now get back and play a real class you noobfiltrators :