Bug exploiting assassins?

[old.Eynar_Vega]

This applies for all 3 realms btw. I'm sure many of you guys got pa'd by assassins when standing on the battlements to defend a keep, although the assassins in question are still on the other side of the wall. What sux about it, is the in 90% of the cases you can't target them at all. Now I just read the grab bag on the Herald, and this is what Sanya says about what can be considered as exploiting:

An exploit IS:
- hiding inside geometry where you cannot be hit (rocks, trees, bridges, etc.)
- standing on surfaces where you cannot be hit (some rooftops, rocks, etc.)
- using geometry and/or pathing errors to avoid damage (the infamous “stand on rock so the monster can’t hit you” ploy)

From what I make of this, this could definately be considered as bug exploiting, and yet I'm afraid that like 99% of the assassins around use this "technique", which is kinda sad. Or am I wrong in this?

BTW: this isn't meant as a flame at all, more of a question tbh...:

 

[old.Whismerill]

Wheres the famous ? ?

 

[old.Sko]

Its not possible to hide inside geometry on this patch. Only thing which can do it - enchanter pet. Case dismissed.

 

[old.Atrox]

so we have PAing no LoS abuseing chanter pets around ?!
NERF CHANTERS!!

I've been PA'd through walls a couple of times, but I wouldnt say that it happends alot...
(but then again Im a Sotl and we never take keeps.)

 

[Oldbone O]

Happend to me couple of times, assasins can PA through the wall, standing on the climbspot, and its impossible to target them 99% of the time... I think its a bug exploiting.

 

[Derric]

I'm thrust,of course I can PA through the cracks in some keep wall

 

[Pixie.Pebr]

They PA through the walls and I smack them through the walls, no problem there.
And don't press your nose to the wall, that's asking for it.
Lean your shoulder on it to prevent both PA and BS2.

Psst... change your camera angle to see/target them

 

[liste]

look on the climb spot from above. that will make you able to target assassins.

Its a good thing for most of you casters though. it makes defending the climb spot alot easier.

 

[Azal]

It's easy to target and hit them, had it done to me enough times while on climbspots. Even easier if you dont have anything targetted when you get hit then u auto target your attacker..and swing away

sheesh hardly brain surgery to work that out

 

[Oldbone O]

Pixie.Pebr, you cant smack assasins that know how to hide on the climpspot, they PA you just above the battlement surface, through the wall, from the climpspot and when they do that they move down, sp you cant hit them.

 

[liste]

well, it works for everyone else, Fuse

 

[maxgirth]

Most Jarls exploit this bug to,nerf Mid lords.

Little buggers turn into David Blaine and dissappear into the walls .

 

[Pixie.Pebr]

Originally posted by fuse_alb
Pixie.Pebr, you cant smack assasins that know how to hide on the climpspot, they PA you just above the battlement surface, through the wall, from the climpspot and when they do that they move down, sp you cant hit them.

So me spotting and hitting assasins numerous times _before_ they got to PA me, forcing them to jump off the wall, was all just a dream...? Everytime?

1) Shoulder against climbspot stone.
2) Change cameraangle so you look straight down on yourself.
3) One finger on /face macro other hand ready to target with mouse.
4) Spot assasin, target with mouse, /face, smack.
5) Keep smacking until they a) jump down, b) die.

Simple.

Only thing wrong with this is that even if you Slam them, they can still climb down. Known bug, dunno when/if it get fixed.

 

[old.Eynar_Vega]

Originally posted by Azal
It's easy to target and hit them, had it done to me enough times while on climbspots. Even easier if you dont have anything targetted when you get hit then u auto target your attacker..and swing away

sheesh hardly brain surgery to work that out

Well, it isn't. Yesterday we took Renaris for example, and when i had the attacker auto-targeted, i always got the message that target wasn't visible or too far away. The problem are mainly Alb keeps, where you can't get onto the walls. And even when you would be able to hit them in melee, what about casters/seers then? They sure as hell aren't in los, so impossible to cast upon them...

 

[liste]

alb keeps in general are buggy.

the climb spots are the worst.

For some silly reason, Mythic deemed it a good design choice to join the two wall sections RIGHT in the middle of the climb spot, and then make some silly thought, that hey, lets not make the climb spot on a flat surface like in Midgard.


If your computer is a little low spec, and you get a teeny weeny bit of lag, its VERY difficult to climb on. especially when you want to get out of the keep fast. you get stuck on everything and then you die.
Trade off, is that we can PA through the top section of rock, as we can also be hit through the same bit.

Fix both, and im happy

 

[Oldbone O]

Guess you are right Pixie.Pebr

lets say lvl30-lvl35, they wont find those assasins on the climpspot before they hit with there PA through the wall , no fair play.. or is RvR only for lvl50's that can discover stealth before they hit?

 

[Desdecado-Seven]

theres nothing good about alb keeps. I like the gatehouse windows u cant see or shoot out of....

next time midgard takes beno, please burn it down, and ask the hibs to build a DC style one there!

 

[Generic Poster]

Don't stand next to climb points and you won't be attacked through the wall.

 

[Azal]

Originally posted by old.Eynar_Vega


Well, it isn't. Yesterday we took Renaris for example, and when i had the attacker auto-targeted, i always got the message that target wasn't visible or too far away. The problem are mainly Alb keeps, where you can't get onto the walls. And even when you would be able to hit them in melee, what about casters/seers then? They sure as hell aren't in los, so impossible to cast upon them...

I find it easy as hell to hit assassins hitting ppl through the walls personally. If you can't don't call it a bug exploit that you can't hit em practice harder

 

[Dook_Pug]

I found it pretty easy, yesterday at Renaris I uncovered 'Osmosis' twice with my staff ^^

 

[amazingsteve]

Originally posted by old.Atrox

(but then again Im a Sotl and we never take keeps.)

because we are 3LiT3!

Like some already said, only the pet can hide in geometry.

 

[old.Gombur Glodson]

Originally posted by amazingsteve

because we are 3LiT3!

And you're a jerkoff.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by old.Gombur Glodson


And you're a jerkoff.

He is?

Me too!

 

[leviathane]

Originally posted by maxgirth
Most Jarls exploit this bug to,nerf Mid lords.

Little buggers turn into David Blaine and dissappear into the walls .

yes we need to nerf jarls...they are the mastahs of bug exploits

 

[old.Osmosis]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug
I found it pretty easy, yesterday at Renaris I uncovered 'Osmosis' twice with my staff ^^

I knew I should have stuck to tailoring.

 

[Derric]

Dook is a foreigner!!!111!!1

 

[amazingsteve]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug


He is?

Me too!

wow, you too?! I use left

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by amazingsteve

wow, you too?! I use left

I use right mostly. If I feel like something new I use left though.

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug


I use right mostly. If I feel like something new I use left though.

I use both i`m a dual wielder .

 

[Fafnir]

Bah some infil used this trick on me And had some friendly caster stun me first... Something has to been done with the keeps. Arrows that go thru solid rock, just because they where released before you jumped off the wall, same with dd's, pets that run thru the walls and start nuking, with unlimited power it seems.