Best PC Single Player Games?

[ST^]

I dunno if there is such a thing as a game that is better on consoles than PC...

 

[Helme]

Racing games and sport games are pretty much always better on consoles, unless you go the extra mile and plug in controllers and the TV to your PC and even then you'll have limited options when it comes to actual games.

 

[ST^]

Racing games and sport games are pretty much always better on consoles, unless you go the extra mile and plug in controllers and the TV to your PC and even then you'll have limited options when it comes to actual games.

Plugging a controller into a PC is going "the extra mile"? Riiiiiiiiiiight........

And about limited options, I meant if a game is on PC and console, the PC game is - as far as I can remember - always the superior version.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Sometimes in ports, with no modding options, that come from console to PC it is a problem. Mostly with controls, but still.

Also there's no graphic fiddling on the console, but then again you won't get the quality either.

 

[BloodOmen]

Far better on PC, as is any game like this. For starters it looks better on the PC, then there is the legion of mods, updated textures, extra quests, NPCs, buildings etc

Seconded, not to mention playing FPS on a control pad is fucking horrible (not so bad if you use third person tho I guess)

 

[Yaka]

planescape torment, dreamweb, syndicate/syndicate wars
, canon fodder

 

[MYstIC G]

And about limited options, I meant if a game is on PC and console, the PC game is - as far as I can remember - always the superior version.

Not when the PC version is a port of the console version which has happened before.

 

[ST^]

Not when the PC version is a port of the console version which has happened before.

When did it happen when there was a port and it was worse than the console version?

 

[MYstIC G]

Latest splinter cell was awful on PC

 

[ECA]

Racing games and sport games are pretty much always better on consoles, unless you go the extra mile and plug in controllers and the TV to your PC and even then you'll have limited options when it comes to actual games.

Not true, I have a wheel and the pc versions of any multi-platform version is better.

As for sports games, they're a pile of wank anyway, but yeah w/ controllers from both consoles being super easy to use on a PC, not really sure how relevant that is either.

 

[ST^]

Latest splinter cell was awful on PC

What was worse on the PC version than the console version?

 

[old.Tohtori]

What was worse on the PC version than the console version?

Well usully the problem is thast console controls and menus don't work on the PC.

I know it's a problem with not changing things to the PC, but doesn't take away the fact that ports from console often don¨t work.

 

[ST^]

Well usully the problem is thast console controls and menus don't work on the PC.

I know it's a problem with not changing things to the PC, but doesn't take away the fact that ports from console often don¨t work.

But it's not worse is it? Just the same?

 

[old.Tohtori]

But it's not worse is it? Just the same?

Technically it is the same, but controls are a key element in any game design. Just a simple change, like say putting reload into the u button in an fps, can affect a players opinion of the game as well as the gaming experience in general.

So while the game in core stays the same, the experience is worse and as such the game itself becomes worse.

 

[ST^]

Technically it is the same, but controls are a key element in any game design. Just a simple change, like say putting reload into the u button in an fps, can affect a players opinion of the game as well as the gaming experience in general.

So while the game in core stays the same, the experience is worse and as such the game itself becomes worse.

You can provide an example of this I assume?

 

[old.Tohtori]

DC Universe, even if the point doesn't require an example.

 

[ST^]

DC Universe, even if the point doesn't require an example.

Better graphics, can use a gamepad for exactly the same controls, other players have keyboards... failing to see which part is worse.

The point requires an example because without one, it is false.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The point requires an example because without one, it is false.

No it doesn't. The point is right there in writing. Ofcourse you CAN stick a controller in the PC, but that doesn't mean the game menus etc are designed for the PC.

Stop trying to find some roundabout reason to counter a very fundamental game design issue. Worse controls = worse game. Ports that have no different controls for PC have worse controls for PC users.

And still, after all said and done, you can stick a mass effect CD in any console and it'll work, can't do the same with the PC without atleast tweaking stuff. I love PC gaming myself, never been much into consoles(this gen atleast), but even i can see that some thing are better.

In a nutshell; consoles are for playing, PCs are for gaming.

 

[ST^]

You're still trying to say that, even though you can play with the exact same controls, they are somehow worse.

You're usually fairly good at putting an argument forward, but I fear you are out of your depth this time.

 

[old.Tohtori]

You're still trying to say that, even though you can play with the exact same controls, they are somehow worse.

You're usually fairly good at putting an argument forward, but I fear you are out of your depth this time.

Plugging a controller in to simulate console controls is NOT good PC controls. They are not exact same controls, they are simulated console controls. I've never said that the games are worse in other aspects, don't put words in my mouth.

It's a basic problem with ports, universal fact, game design aspect that should be addressed in any port and it lacking makes the PC version worse.

It's the same as Starcrat saying "sure you can get proper controls, if you plug this starcraft mouse in". It's a solution, but it doesn't remove the original problem.

Maybe you need to read what is written, before saying i'm out of my depth, because it seems you think that i'm calling some games worse on other basis then what i explained already.

 

[ST^]

What does "simulated console controls" mean, exactly? What difference does the user experience when using your so-called "simulated" controls as opposed to the "real" controls?

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm not gonna go back and forth and explain every word to you, if you don't get the point, then don't.

 

[Ceixah]

ended up getting for casual gaming so far...


Risk: Factions
Age of Empires III - All the expansions
Dungeon Siege III


So far I've only had a little flutter on all three games (used to play AoE alot so I'm familiar with this game - never did the campaigns though)

Dungeon Siege I used to absolutely LOVE! the first game however it appears to have morphed somewhat into a platform game rather than an rpg ! still graphics were very purty and combat seems "ok" just need to figure out how to lock on to targets or reduce mouse sensitivity as camera goes mad :>

and as for Risk I bloody love the board game and had the playstation version of the original game so this is a good laugh. gotta say the computer was insanely difficult until I figured out how to beat it, now it's no challenge (took me all of 3 games to figure out the computer)

 

[ST^]

i'm not gonna go back and forth and explain every word to you, if you don't get the point, then don't.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Aada]

Far better on PC, as is any game like this. For starters it looks better on the PC, then there is the legion of mods, updated textures, extra quests, NPCs, buildings etc

For sure but if you actually just want to play the game and not worry about if your PC will not work with it for any given reason then console is the way.

The only reason I have a good pc and a gaming laptop is for MMOs and as of late MMOs are piss poor and is a very been there seen that genre.

The last game I bought for PC was Rift and I next games I buy will be KOTOR and Starcraft 2. Anything else will be bought on the 360. The golden era of PC gaming is long gone and for most developers except Blizzard PC ports are not a priority and often released in a bit of a mess which leaves a bad taste in your mouth after a while.

Add to the fact XBL is such a great way to hook up with friends and have a blast together on a game, PC gaming for me is not what it was and I find the console a much better way to spend my time on.

 

[megadave]

When did it happen when there was a port and it was worse than the console version?

Some of the FIFA and PES games are shit on the PC, lazy ports.

 

[Aada]

Some of the FIFA and PES games are shit on the PC, lazy ports.

Really, who buys a sport game for PC? I bet the online side of it is dead.

 

[ST^]

Some of the FIFA and PES games are shit on the PC, lazy ports.

Ok but how are they worse than the console versions? Maybe they're shit because they don't match the usual level of PC superiority. But how are they worse?

 

[JingleBells]

Ok but how are they worse than the console versions? Maybe they're shit because they don't match the usual level of PC superiority. But how are they worse?

Previous versions of FIFA haven't included the same features, it's one of the "features" of FIFA 12 that the PC version actually has the same game engine and feature set as XBox/PS3 versions

 

[Helme]

Because we get the PS2 ports, or at least used to get those on the FIFA games while the 360 and PS3 gets the new stuff. Console ports also tends to be badly optimised for PC's, a perfect example is the recently released From Dust which not only runs like shit on a computer way above the recommended specs, but also lacks ANY graphical options except resolution and refresh rate.

Face it some games are just plain better on consoles and I'm saying this as a hardcore PC gamer, the reasons are many but bad ports, bad controls and a general lack of titles in some genres makes it fairly hard to argue anything else.

That doesn't mean the death of the PC as a platform, far from it since it's still the only platform where you can play certain types of games because they've failed over and over again on the console side, but you kind of have to accept that if you don't own a console you're going to miss out on some great games.