Be ready to laugh

[cHodAX]

You've been very lucky not to have your other accounts terminated too, cheaters should be treated as a person, not an individual account.

100% spot on, the current system makes no sense at all.

 

[Lethul]

strange, i fought your vamp a bit with my bg infil and i never saw any speedhacking or anything the last days. another tough enemy gone, so few of them nowdays

 

[eggy]

a) GOA do not ban people for no reason, or on “suspicion” or hesitance. They back things up with tests and make sure they ban cheaters, not people who lag.
b) Zenythe is a “she” – you know, one of those women things
c) Non of the GMs are French
d) Cheat = get banned.
e) Get banned = piss off to WOW, or playschool.

 

[Puppet]

Don't know anything about this specific incident, but judging from my Point-of-view:

Why would GOA ban anyone when they dont have sufficient proof the person is cheating ? What do they win with that? They loose income, they loose credibility from the players + making them look stupid when someone gets banned and later on it seems the person was affected by something they didnt consider.

Basically GOA has lots to loose by making such a mistake, and they are a company .... add it up any way u like it, but I seriously doubt GOA would ban someone innocent as they only loose with that.

On the other hand we have a player here who's already banned, and it's not the first time he got caught for cheating. He has nothing to loose by now, except some credibility on FH. His 'friends' will back him up no matter what on FH 'hey hey he would never do that !!!!111' (makes you think why he got banned before?).

Think about this: What does GOA have to loose and what does this player have to loose. Makes it to me quite obvious that GOA investigated this thoroughly and banned because they are 100% sure there's some cheat involved.

Proofing the cheat isnt easy. They most likely got a proof in a way:

* It takes 4.3 seconds to go from point A (loc = 21324,45322,121 Thidranki) to point B (loc = 24532,41483,133 Thidranki) on maximum speed available to the char at the given time. Player travelled this in 3.8 seconds ---> faster then possible ---> speedhack.

However, its quite impossible to verify this 'proof' for us players. The only way they could make a visible proof is by making a movie with dots and lines where the traject of the player/cheated is plotted on, and the maximum speed for this char plotted on it aswell. Then peeps would argue the numbers are wrong etc etc.

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Sorry Lethul I was having much fun in thidranki, and i dont know how you could have seen any speed hack as i have never used it but none can believe it ...
And everyone knows there is not any bug in this game.
.I'm sure nobody got the chat logs of someone else
.I'm sure nobody got a speed of 0.5sec after entering in a speedwarp area without any speed
And of course after 2 warnings, that's easier to suspend my account than to try
to understand the story.
And why should not they suspend my 2nd account ? My brother will be happy
No used cheat => 2 lost accounts ... good idea imo

@Requiel I'm sure you did your job well. But I would like to see if when you play this game ( i'm sure you play ) you never have any bugs, wrong logs, target not in view, target too far away, and why not a fucking speed which is not yours.
I'm not using any cheat and i have no idea about what happened and what you could have seen in your "logs" which we can't understand/see

 

[Damnnationx]

Hmm latuvu ive played with you a few times, and quiet honestly you seem honerable enough maybe a slight attitude problem when things dont work out youre way but being banned for cm bug abusing is just pointless how many years they had to fix those bugs?? ive seen worse than hiding in walls pbing other peopls mobs like macro pulling the wee weres and dead end mobs with anis and fopers spent 3 hrs 1 day watching them do it finaly i had them wiped by accident of course as i got added on ....cheaters never prosper but 1 thing i have noticed is that bugs do happen and a gm isnt always likely to see them.....speed hack was it not this patch the issued a new self out of combat speed ? maybe that bugged like the me did after patch..

all i can say is dont kill too many people at once or youl get banned lol <looks at horner> LOL

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Yes but you know it can happen, then GoA needs to understand that. They have not done anything to understand it.

 

[Thorarin]

when i got 4 warnings and have not done anything this time ?! I'm not crazy enough to risk anything with this account.

For some reason you seem to be under the impression that there's some kind of "3 strikes" system in place here.

If GOA finds you guilty of a severe violation of the CoC, you will usually get permabanned regardless of your previous track record. Proof of using external programs to cheat is an almost guaranteed one way ticket to real life.

Good riddance.

 

[Awarkle]

Well checking logs probbly isnt a case of if a = b then speedhack = true.

Its probbly feed a lot of data into a big database then flag up anomolies.

Lag only effects client side not server side as the computer knows where everyone is, the reason you lag is because the server is resynching your client to what data it has.

Speed hack probbly throws up anomolyes where the client overwrites what the server resives probbly by flooding data. Once the system knows what to look for then they only have to check back for a few days.

You may not have been cheating that day but they probbly feed in the previous weeks reports and see what comes up thats why you were banned. but then again i dont know what the gms know all i know is that a cheater has been banned and maybe next time when it comes to exploits and speedhacks you will think twice. I now know my game will be better without 1 more cheater to ruin my end game.

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Of course permabanned is fine for speed hacker or radar user or anything else you can have to cheat. The matter is : I have NEVER used any cheat.
Other warnings were from bug exploiting which i stopped after 2 warnings like everyone would do

 

[Alan]

Other warnings were from bug exploiting which i stopped after 2 warnings like everyone would do

Urm no they wouldnt, normal people wont knowingly bug abuse, and if for any reason a GM approached them to talk about a bug abuse, im sure they wouldnt need a 2nd warning !

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

you can't imagine the number of bug abuser.

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Awarkle i'm sure i've disturbed your chars with my vampiir in thidranki And if you played in thidranki i'm so sorry that you havent killed me with a 1 fg mid vs me.
And that kind of bug exploit will never disturb you in RvR.

And sorry again, but the only char i was playing in group in RvR was a druid in excalibur, and i still have it. But after this story i'm not sure i'll be still playing this game.

 

[Hestethun]

well u deserved the ban etc. and 2nd thing its very lame to post privat chats ingame tbh

 

[vintervargen]

Against CoC to farm Artis so isn't that understandable?

say what now?

 

[Frozodo]

Chain farm / Chain camp Artis is against CoC

 

[Norcott]

should have lost all your accounts imo.. game cheaters are the scum of the earth.. and if it wasnt fully deserved on this occasion (so u say) but i feel Req/Zen dont make rash choices with the ban stk.. then it was deserved from all the times you cheated and not been flagged or seen....
I mean uve been warned enough times and had a temp ban.. Should have been terminated the first time no second chances imo, cheat then sling ya hook. i hear wow is good for cheaters.. :gopack:

i'd certainly watch ya self now come cluster time theres gunna be plenty watching you pal..

 

[Aetius]

Sorry to see this happen Latuvu. GMs have had their reasons. Dont think they woke up that day and said "Hmm, today I want to boot someone".

However, I thought GMs online were a myth. Looking forward to see Zenythe stalking me on those ML-raids which is a pure nightmare of bugs (although they have been improved, and grant-credit was a good idea to avoid actually fixing them).

 

[Alan]

Sorry to see this happen Latuvu. GMs have had their reasons. Dont think they woke up that day and said "Hmm, today I want to boot someone".

However, I thought GMs online were a myth. Looking forward to see Zenythe stalking me on those ML-raids which is a pure nightmare of bugs (although they have been improved, and grant-credit was a good idea to avoid actually fixing them).

There definetly better now - been on numerous ML raids from 1-7 and not one encounter has been bugged yet.

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

I don't feel the bug exploit as a cheat, but as you want.
And i have been suspended for each bug exploit i used.
It's pathetic to see people like that. you don't know me you don't know anything, more than that you sound like 100% noob and you talk about that kind of shit. What would you do if you would lose your account for something you have not done ? you would be crazy because you're stupid and you can't say anything without flaming. kthx

 

[Alan]

I don't feel the bug exploit as a cheat, but as you want.
And i have been suspended for each bug exploit i used.
It's pathetic to see people like that. you don't know me you don't know anything, more than that you sound like 100% noob and you talk about that kind of shit. What would you do if you would lose your account for something you have not done ? you would be crazy because you're stupid and you can't say anything without flaming. kthx

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[Latuvu Kmk]

They know bugs well . not my fault if they don't do their job and don't repair them.
The thread was talking about a fake speed hack and nothing else, why are you all talking about my old bug exploits ?! Shut up if you have nothing to say.

 

[Alan]

They know bugs well . not my fault if they don't do their job and don't repair them.

True, but its your fault if you abuse them.

Maybe if this was your first offence they may have been more understanding, but with such history of cheating would you have expected that ?

 

[lokkedue]

They know bugs well . not my fault if they don't do their job and don't repair them.

you cant seriously except them to fix EVERY bug in the game, thats where they need our help to find the bugs and then fix them.. bug exploits is almost as bad as cheating imo

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Can you stop talking about old stories ? You ain't my mother...
And speed hack is not like a bug exploit... it's against players, and bug exploit are here to help and get suspended.
And CM bug is here since the beginning of this game. and they have never repaired it.

 

[Chrstffr]

Hi Ojaas

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[Kami]

Can you stop talking about old stories ? You ain't my mother...
And speed hack is not like a bug exploit... it's against players, and bug exploit are here to help and get suspended.
And CM bug is here since the beginning of this game. and they have never repaired it.

Bug exploit are here to help and get suspended - whaa?

Just because a bug has been in the game for a long time doesn't mean it's ok to exploit it. I know of a spot in TOA where mobs can't hit you, did I exploit it? no I reported it via rightnow and got a little thank you back. Is it fixed? no. Do I exploit it? no.

Pfft trying to justify cheating by saying it's old bugs is daft. To be honest you've shot yourself in the foot starting this thread and you just don't know when to let it drop.

GOA are probably pissing themselves laughing, if not I bet they're pleasantly pleased at the backing they're getting from a good majority of players.

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

If you don't understand that is not my problem, i used it and got suspended, never told you must use it... you can use it but don't whine if you get a ban.

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

and People are talking out of the subject . and can't stop it . and that is not my problem i'm not a gamemaster or a modal

 

[Lisaliten]

If you don't understand that is not my problem, i used it and got suspended, never told you must use it... you can use it but don't whine if you get a ban.

yea and that was what you did.. and got banned... and still whine.. :touch: