Be ready to laugh

[MxN]

Hi Ojaas

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Mutoria, show the rest of the discussion. and what link between what you say and what i told ?! None. one more time, i posted here to get an explaination, because it had already happened to someone else. And i don't need any stupid flame(ing?)

 

[Mutoria]

Mutoria, show the rest of the discussion. and what link between what you say and what i told ?! None. one more time, i posted here to get an explaination, because it had already happened to someone else. And i don't need any stupid flame(ing?)

you said it to someone, you should know what you said, they can say what they like as its a public forum,

no one cares about you cheating, and i dont think people are gonna try help you get unbanned

( just for the record, is fucking bait that you were speedhacking )

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Unfortunately for you, some guys did it, even if they did not want

 

[Mutoria]

Unfortunately for you, some guys did it, even if they did not want

they posted saying 'sorry mate'.. that means theyve tried to stop you getting banned?

they just feel sorry for you as you lost alot of stuff

its just a game mate, dont get too upset about losing items that dont exsist

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

things which dont exist ... it can be changed easyly

 

[Mutoria]

things which dont exist ... it can be changed easyly

eh? you can get gov irl ?

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

I'll explain in game with my 2nd acc baby. stop being aggro.

 

[DaRkDeViLDK]

lol irl

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Same if it would have happened to someone else i don't like

 

[Awarkle]

i want to post somthing but ill just add yay cheater gone.

 

[Commandment]

you cant seriosly think that the gamemasters are able to ban persons just because theyre frustrated? i very much doubt that they are able to ban an account without having another GM aproving it... I dont know if you cheated or not, but they have to have some kind of evidence against you since they took the action of banning your account.

i know i would ^^ hello statued xD

j/king ofc

but who knows .. getting banned for bug abusing <PVE> is one thing ... but speed haxxing is another .. who knows if he did speed haxx <personally i dont think he did>

but i still think they should have the curtosty to show him any logs/evidence that they have to prove this fact.

They mightent have to .. but they should tbh

all this is my opinion ^^ so less flames

 

[Kami]

I don't know Latuvu but to be honest I don't see why everyone is jumping up and down at GOA. Seems they're just doing thier job, they're convinced he was cheating after observing him. As far as we know they could have had reports of it, come to see and watched it happen = Termination.

I see no reason why GOA should have to prove anything, if GOA think someone is cheating why on earth should they explain themselves to a cheat? Nah sod that. To be honest don't see why they ban only one account, they should be able to ban them all if they're truely convinced that someone is cheating/abusing.

Sounds a little like the boy who cried wolf!

I did cheat the last 4 times, but this time I really didn't.. honest!

 

[IainC]

There is no proof that we could possibly send you.
Zenythe recieved a report ingame and followed it up. As a result of her investigation she became very suspicious and decided to follow Latuvuuu around and use some of our tools to see if there was any reason for him being able to move at speed whilst in combat, diseased and snared. On multiple occasions.

We can see all the active effects (buffs, charged items, active RAs etc) that a character has at any time and so it's very easy to see if someone is using an effect such as Charge, Arms Length, SoS, Winged Helm or similar. Obviously in Thidranki, the list of things that give you speed in combat is pretty short. We checked server logs for anomalous movement logs that would indicate movement faster than the server believes should be possible and found plenty of matches. So the evidence that we have is direct observation (not something we can really send you) and a list of numbers. That's all the server log returns, numbers and dates. Not very informative and without access to dev tools actually pretty useless to you.

For the record when you spoke to Zenythe the first time prior to being terminated and booted you were actually talking to me. Zenythe asked me to corroborate her observations. After a period of doing exactly what she had just done herself, I found myself bound to agree with her suspicions and so I spoke to you before terminating you (as terminations are my call as lead GM). I booted you, not because I was terrified of you bringing the conversation to FH, but because I had better things to do than argue with you.

We do not need to prove to you that you were cheating. At our entire discretion we can terminate your account if we feel that it would be in the best interests of the game. At any time. For any reason. The only person I need to justify the decision to is my boss. This is one of the conditions that you agreed to when you created your account and every time that you logged into the game.

Cheating is a choice. Most people avoid making it.

 

[Libertine]

There is no proof that we could possibly send you.
Zenythe recieved a report ingame and followed it up. As a result of her investigation she became very suspicious and decided to follow Latuvuuu around and use some of our tools to see if there was any reason for him being able to move at speed whilst in combat, diseased and snared. On multiple occasions.

We can see all the active effects (buffs, charged items, active RAs etc) that a character has at any time and so it's very easy to see if someone is using an effect such as Charge, Arms Length, SoS, Winged Helm or similar. Obviously in Thidranki, the list of things that give you speed in combat is pretty short. We checked server logs for anomalous movement logs that would indicate movement faster than the server believes should be possible and found plenty of matches. So the evidence that we have is direct observation (not something we can really send you) and a list of numbers. That's all the server log returns, numbers and dates. Not very informative and without access to dev tools actually pretty useless to you.

For the record when you spoke to Zenythe the first time prior to being terminated and booted you were actually talking to me. Zenythe asked me to corroborate her observations. After a period of doing exactly what she had just done herself, I found myself bound to agree with her suspicions and so I spoke to you before terminating you (as terminations are my call as lead GM). I booted you, not because I was terrified of you bringing the conversation to FH, but because I had better things to do than argue with you.

We do not need to prove to you that you were cheating. At our entire discretion we can terminate your account if we feel that it would be in the best interests of the game. At any time. For any reason. The only person I need to justify the decision to is my boss. This is one of the conditions that you agreed to when you created your account and every time that you logged into the game.

Cheating is a choice. Most people avoid making it.

 

[Tarmak]

:worthy:

 

[Palekick]

hmz where did i see the name of Latuvu before... bahh darn memory of mine ^^ I know I've seen ya before

oh btw Requiel/Zenythe:

(from a friend, a bit... edited to hide some of the chars there )


what do i have to do to have a chance at pet-pullin one of ya so i can get me old T-shirt sayin: "I've focus'ed one of GoA's GM's and all i got was this lousy T-shirt!"

 

[Savannah]

this post was actually a good laugh

 

[Hestethun]

he deserves ban for sure!

 

[cuddled0rf]

Indeed, very hillarious reading

Requil's answer is exactly why i like him and respect him, not because hes a gm as the original poster seemed to think ppl did.

Zenythe i just like coz she returned my NS "mintyfresh" after a slight bug

 

[Frozodo]

Well tbh he might have cheated he might not, however surely after 4 previous ban it was bound to happen, i got a warning myself and since that day I haven't used any bugs that i know off (good old CM bug) and I think it was Zenythe that gave me the warning but tbh they are doing their job if u cheat or abuse bugs at some point u will get court and u will have to take the punishment as a man ( or woman depending on your sex ofc ).

GM's are doing their job, it isn't in their interest to perma ban someone because see it from GoA point of view they are losing a customer.

 

[Aliorm]

There is no proof that we could possibly send you.
Zenythe recieved a report ingame and followed it up. As a result of her investigation she became very suspicious and decided to follow Latuvuuu around and use some of our tools to see if there was any reason for him being able to move at speed whilst in combat, diseased and snared. On multiple occasions.

We can see all the active effects (buffs, charged items, active RAs etc) that a character has at any time and so it's very easy to see if someone is using an effect such as Charge, Arms Length, SoS, Winged Helm or similar. Obviously in Thidranki, the list of things that give you speed in combat is pretty short. We checked server logs for anomalous movement logs that would indicate movement faster than the server believes should be possible and found plenty of matches. So the evidence that we have is direct observation (not something we can really send you) and a list of numbers. That's all the server log returns, numbers and dates. Not very informative and without access to dev tools actually pretty useless to you.

For the record when you spoke to Zenythe the first time prior to being terminated and booted you were actually talking to me. Zenythe asked me to corroborate her observations. After a period of doing exactly what she had just done herself, I found myself bound to agree with her suspicions and so I spoke to you before terminating you (as terminations are my call as lead GM). I booted you, not because I was terrified of you bringing the conversation to FH, but because I had better things to do than argue with you.

We do not need to prove to you that you were cheating. At our entire discretion we can terminate your account if we feel that it would be in the best interests of the game. At any time. For any reason. The only person I need to justify the decision to is my boss. This is one of the conditions that you agreed to when you created your account and every time that you logged into the game.

Cheating is a choice. Most people avoid making it.

A Medal for GoA imo xDDDD

Hi im a GM and i gonna ban u cuz i have "logs" and u cheated! !! /ban XXX

 

[pomalllka]

GOA's GM's are not trigger happy with the ban stick.

1 they would have observed you for an extended period of time and come to the conclusion you were suspect.

that conclusion would be re-inforced by logs files on the server

that conclusion would have been re-inforced by your lack of ability to communicate with them in an adult manner

that conclusion would have been re-inforced by previous incidents envolving your account

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Your wrong their censi. I seen 5 animists ( the ruski crew who chain farmed gov)all get insta banned less than 2 mins after a GM (i wont name him although i do have the screenie) was pm'ed. So they don't monitor shit m8.


Pom

 

[xverd]

actually a friend of mine had bard speed or something but he was a solo mentalist with a charmed salamander in typhons reach Oo, i think there is a bug in the game atm making some people run faster then they do or something as i was with him on my bb but i dident run as fast as him. It lasted for about 2 mins and it was gone.

 

[Frozodo]

Against CoC to farm Artis so isn't that understandable?

 

[ethelion]

There is no proof that we could possibly send you.
Zenythe recieved a report ingame and followed it up. As a result of her investigation she became very suspicious and decided to follow Latuvuuu around and use some of our tools to see if there was any reason for him being able to move at speed whilst in combat, diseased and snared. On multiple occasions.

We can see all the active effects (buffs, charged items, active RAs etc) that a character has at any time and so it's very easy to see if someone is using an effect such as Charge, Arms Length, SoS, Winged Helm or similar. Obviously in Thidranki, the list of things that give you speed in combat is pretty short. We checked server logs for anomalous movement logs that would indicate movement faster than the server believes should be possible and found plenty of matches. So the evidence that we have is direct observation (not something we can really send you) and a list of numbers. That's all the server log returns, numbers and dates. Not very informative and without access to dev tools actually pretty useless to you.

For the record when you spoke to Zenythe the first time prior to being terminated and booted you were actually talking to me. Zenythe asked me to corroborate her observations. After a period of doing exactly what she had just done herself, I found myself bound to agree with her suspicions and so I spoke to you before terminating you (as terminations are my call as lead GM). I booted you, not because I was terrified of you bringing the conversation to FH, but because I had better things to do than argue with you.

We do not need to prove to you that you were cheating. At our entire discretion we can terminate your account if we feel that it would be in the best interests of the game. At any time. For any reason. The only person I need to justify the decision to is my boss. This is one of the conditions that you agreed to when you created your account and every time that you logged into the game.

Cheating is a choice. Most people avoid making it.

w00t well said :worthy:

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Your wrong their censi. I seen 5 animists ( the ruski crew who chain farmed gov)all get insta banned less than 2 mins after a GM (i wont name him although i do have the screenie) was pm'ed. So they don't monitor shit m8.


Pom

Heres the timeline:

GM receives abuse report.
30 seconds later - logs into GM account
10 seconds later - arrives at abuse spot.
30 seconds later - boots abusers for blantent bug abuse.

Some bug abuse is soooo easy to spot, and GOA issue warnigns a lot, and ppl like the animists know its against the rules, but say fook it, well get away with it! And for all you know, they had been watching a lot longer and got more than one report, which is normally the case.

Its you that dont know shit.

well done on the ban, and well done for putting your own head on the spike for all to see, normally banned players dont get named and shamed, but to do it yourself.....priceless.

 

[Alan]

Do you think it is normal to get a perma ban for something you have not done ? please STFU this isnt happening to you.


Like ? What is the weather in your country like ? Good idea I start knowing them well.

Its not happening to me - as I dont cheat.

Your style and content in the log is definetly strange, you flaunt your innocence, but then when confronted with specifics look for a way out.

10 min ago ? i got a strange speed for 1sec but i had no one on me

I know one other person who was banned for speed hacking, they proceeded to seek support from the forums pleading innocence, but the ban remained. A few months later they had the guts to admit they were actualy guilty, picked up a new account and started from scratch learning from their mistakes.

You've been very lucky not to have your other accounts terminated too, cheaters should be treated as a person, not an individual account.

 

[Thlauni]

Well as others stated before me. I don't know all the facts, but based on the information presented here it seems more than likely that he was a cheater.

So good riddance to you

 

[Zovic]

Latuv, you have been caught cheating mate, a GM has posted here confirming that you have been cheating, that's good enough evidence for me.
You knew the risks of cheating, and you choose to take those risks, how about come clean? accept that you have been caught cheating? because there is no way they will just ban you for no reason, they would of seen you do it on a number of occasions before they made the decision to terminate you, also you are very lucky not to have your second account terminated also, which imo is nice of GOA.