I'm against banning it. People should be allowed to wear what they like for chrissakes.
Digs out SS uniform for next Germany trip.
ANY fully covered face wear should be banned in public. Dont care what it is, if you cant identify a person in that clothing then it shouldnt be allowed. I see it as a public safety matter, and hate the fact that they can walk through airports without ever revealing their face, as such you can not be sure they are who they are meant to be.
If it "religious, then they can wear it in their sinegogs or whatever, but outside of there it should not be allowed!
I should be able to travel Germany in an SS uniform if i wanted to. Just as i should be able to wear jeans and a t-shirt, or a motorcycle helmet, a mankini or a burka. It shouldn't be anyones business but mine.
However, if i walked into your business (shop) wearing a burka, a motorcycle helmet or any other piece of clothing you dont want to see in your shop then you should have the right to deny me service unless i removed said piece of clothing.
Ofcourse you should have to ID yourself at an airport, but other then that.. a pulic safety matter!? Safety? for whom?
Actually, you should consider germany a big old shop that doesn't allow nazi outfits, if your second statement is to hold any water.
Or, if you think it's wrong that germany denies you wearing it, do you believe that people should be allowed to walk around the streets wearing "Paedophilia rocks!" t-shirts without it being anyones business?
I personally go by any law given, if burkas are banned, so be it. I don't have to agree with laws for me to abide by them. It is the law in germany, so be it. A guy walking in that paedo t-shirt would get a second look from me, but that would be where i would leave it. I believe in the statement "wear what you want", jsut checking how tolerant people would -really- be about it.
Public safety, in the manner that if they break a law whilst wearing a full facial cover then you have no way of identifying the person as there no way to see them, you got just the eyes to go on, and a voice if your lucky... nothing of use in trying to identify them.
"Yes, the person had brown eyes! please go find them!"
I think when you in a public space you should be able to identify who this person is with a look. But that is just me.
Im all for wearing what you want, but I do not agree in allowing anyone to having full facial covering.. be it religious or just for the hell of it.
But that just me
Public safety, in the manner that if they break a law whilst wearing a full facial cover then you have no way of identifying the person as there no way to see them, you got just the eyes to go on, and a voice if your lucky... nothing of use in trying to identify them.
"Yes, the person had brown eyes! please go find them!"
When the western countries invaded Iraq and found out that all the informations about weapons of mass destruction were false, they said "well, at least we brought them freedom! You know... freedom is important, because freedom is a basic human right".
So... we kinda like rescued them from the surpression and now they can walk around like they want to. Uhm.... ok, not *exactly* like they want to. We brought them the right to NOT wear burkas. And now we´re stripping them from their right to wear burkas.
When the western countries invaded Iraq and found out that all the informations about weapons of mass destruction were false, they said "well, at least we brought them freedom! You know... freedom is important, because freedom is a basic human right".
So... we kinda like rescued them from the surpression and now they can walk around like they want to. Uhm.... ok, not *exactly* like they want to. We brought them the right to NOT wear burkas. And now we´re stripping them from their right to wear burkas.
we aint stopping them wearing them in their own country (as you specifically talking about iraqi's) ... hell, they aint being stripped of it in the country of their religous origin either.
It's not really religious freedom, its personal freedom that is the issue here.I must say that this is a pretty controversial discussion. On the one hand people say that it's their right of religious freedom that allows them to wear full cover, but then again there are so many women who are being forced by their families to wear that stuff … so now there is the religious freedom here?
You mean a mask?, as for the police they could have just as easily (and probably did) given the woman that form where you have to take your liscence to the police office?, you do not have to carry a driving licence so it wouldn't have changed your situation at allAnd how far does religious freedom go when it comes to safety?
My ROW has been taking by fully covered women a lot where I live (lots of Muslims live here), so this is where my personal safety comes into play. If they crash into me, I don't give a shit about their right to wear whatever. If I drive around with a blindfold for religious reasons, then the police is gonna kick my ass kinda hard.
There are certain times and places that they should have to remove them, banks, schools, basically anywhere that you aren't allowed to wear a crash helmet, places where identification is necessary. Banning them is wrong though, if someone wants to wear one then they should be allowed to wear one. Personal freedom and all that.
Well, I wasn't really thinking about the students tbh, more the parent collecting the children.
Why would that be a concern?
Simply because of the fact the teacher needs to identify that the correct person is taking the child, anyone could hide under a burka and the teacher would be none the wiser.
haha must spread rep, and it's reminded me to watch the new ep
Haha, almost sounds south park - despite the obvious vic reeves thang ;d
Ban the ideology that indoctrinates these women into thinking its 'ok' to wear these hideous things in the first place. Human beings have free will, or should, it is what makes us human after all.
Ban the ideology that indoctrinates these women into thinking its 'ok' to wear these hideous things in the first place. Human beings have free will, or should, it is what makes us human after all.