Apocalypse Dudes/The Brethen... turning the tides for Excalibur?

[Aloca]

If target isnt diseased you can manage to heal him even if he has the assist train on him, last time i played my druid in rvr (4-5 months ago) we had 3 druids in grp, did meet a mid grp tank grp, they all targeted same druid and started whacking on him... lets say easier fight is hard to find, we just used the attacked druid as a pet pull. spammed heals on him and after a while all mid support was killed and our tanks took of 1 tank at the time fromt he train.

 

[judas]

i hate pets :\

 

[Belomar]

I might have overlooked FC... they played really really well yesterday, I was suprised.. althou it was me playing crap aswell...

Or it could be a case of you having a head too big for your shoulders. It's when you start to compare your own personal performance with the performance of other groups or even guilds that you need to think about getting a reality check, to be honest.

Anyway, I am sure FC is thrilled to get your approval (even if it could indeed be due to you playing crap).

 

[Tinyheals]

btw whats this crap about us being nice?
Then you are probably not an alb adding on our fight

 

[Stallion]

Or it could be a case of you having a head too big for your shoulders. It's when you start to compare your own personal performance with the performance of other groups or even guilds that you need to think about getting a reality check, to be honest.

Anyway, I am sure FC is thrilled to get your approval (even if it could indeed be due to you playing crap).

did I catch your attention once more

get back into line alb #12351512

 

[Minstrel]

Yeah but don't try fixed groups where you EXCLUDE members from joining, like in The Brethren where many members left cause of that. Btw they dress in blue so they won't look like the other randoms in TB.
All who had a problem with that got kicked or left, aoe group members will tell you that this isn't true ofc

Xplo i thought ur a nice guy but ....seems like not ...ur just another idiot tbh.U been in guild for like huh 2 months? u didnt know shiet about it etc now stop talking about things u dont have a clue moron. Guys like u make me uke:

 

[*Ialkarn]

Third, what the fuck kind of comparison are you making? 10/8 sec pbt is pretty much worthless in tank groups so just keep the mincer in.

It's not wortless,maybe is usless against assist trains,but it actually give an hard time to the shieldbots to land their slams on the enemy tanks.

4 sec stun is like 2 hits,

Yes and the chance to land positionals for all the whole train.

Then add a bloody theurgist, lol, then you get dmg add, haste, and fucking uber interrupt in your group. Now you mention it yeah a theurg is good, so how is this a bad thing for albs?

Add a theurgist is a good option for sure,but that mean drop a tank ,and add a cloth user in the group,and btw that's prolly the only viable option for an alb tank group.

Now I tell you what an hib tank group can do:

druid druid warden hero bm bm bm bard
druid druid druid hero bm bm bm bard
druid druid hero bm bm bm bm bard
druid druid hero bm bm bm bard eldritch
druid druid warden hero bm bm bard eldritch
druid druid druid hero bm bm bard eldritch

Hib tanks groups have aloot options,aloot more than albs
where 3/4 of the group is fixed and you can't avoid it.

You could even drop your hero for one more druid (I didn't say its a good choice,but it's still viable),albs can't drop the pali.

Druid druid druid hero bm bm valkevaker bard.

having 3 g purge (one every 10 mins+single purges) you can even affort no determination tanks,especially against albs.

And we talking about the magic realm
I give you another tank setup

Druid Druid Warden Warden hero bm bm bard

Funny setup isn't it? well it can kill stuff,albs groups are statics,if you don't have the right classes avaliable you are stuck whit random players or you have to wait at apk for hours.

I don't state Triple blade is better than dirty tricks,but it's more effective in offensive contests. and it's what a tank group need:an hight damage output.
Albs got aloot of ras to increase their defences (bof,sob,dirty tricks,ap on supports) but only a real tool effective in offence (sos),and it's what they need more.

 

[Fluid]

It's not wortless,maybe is usless against assist trains,but it actually give an hard time to the shieldbots to land their slams on the enemy tanks.



Yes and the chance to land positionals for all the whole train.



Add a theurgist is a good option for sure,but that mean drop a tank ,and add a cloth user in the group,and btw that's prolly the only viable option for an alb tank group.

Now I tell you what an hib tank group can do:

druid druid warden hero bm bm bm bard
druid druid druid hero bm bm bm bard
druid druid hero bm bm bm bm bard
druid druid hero bm bm bm bard eldritch
druid druid warden hero bm bm bard eldritch
druid druid druid hero bm bm bard eldritch

Hib tanks groups have aloot options,aloot more than albs
where 3/4 of the group is fixed and you can't avoid it.

You could even drop your hero for one more druid (I didn't say its a good choice,but it's still viable),albs can't drop the pali.

Druid druid druid hero bm bm valkevaker bard.

having 3 g purge (one every 10 mins+single purges) you can even affort no determination tanks,especially against albs.

And we talking about the magic realm
I give you another tank setup

Druid Druid Warden Warden hero bm bm bard

Funny setup isn't it? well it can kill stuff,albs groups are statics,if you don't have the right classes avaliable you are stuck whit random players or you have to wait at apk for hours.

I don't state Triple blade is better than dirty tricks,but it's more effective in offensive contests. and it's what a tank group need:an hight damage output.
Albs got aloot of ras to increase their defences (bof,sob,dirty tricks,ap on supports) but only a real tool effective in offence (sos),and it's what they need more.

if it is all about damage output, then u will lose yes, but you know as well as i do its not all about damage output. There are other reasons mid tank grps > all other tank grps, even without savages. Albs have the best means to soak up melee damage, and to stop other realms doing it. BOf/SB/SOS all lower damage output over time from enemy grps, spec AF etc etc. Oh and lets not forget DT, try assisting on tanks before healers, mercs pop DT 1 after the other, thats a tank hitting for shit then.

 

[*Ialkarn]

if it is all about damage output, then u will lose yes, but you know as well as i do its not all about damage output. There are other reasons mid tank grps > all other tank grps, even without savages. Albs have the best means to soak up melee damage, and to stop other realms doing it. BOf/SB/SOS all lower damage output over time from enemy grps, spec AF etc etc. Oh and lets not forget DT, try assisting on tanks before healers, mercs pop DT 1 after the other, thats a tank hitting for shit then.

No not only damage output...heal output too : prolly the think albion lacks more in front of other realms,and you know as good as me a savage is harder than a Bm or a Merc to drop,and if you interrupt supports they can still pr the savage.

Also the "hit tanks for first" trend, is based on the fact the modern fotm light tank ,spec his ras different than the past:he get PF asap and boost his determination and mopain in front of everything else.
so you wont find mercs/savages/bm whit ip before rr7-8 otherwise that tactic wouldn't be so effective,and if this trend keep going some tanks 'll change their strategies.

edit:aniway we haxing this thread! so stop making me reply!

 

[Fedaykin]

Wait till alb gets h/o's

we should be able to compete in the frontload dmg department

 

[Gregorian]

lol GoL ppl... Q_Q

wonder why AD would yell at you? Yes I wonder!

nah, no QQ at all.
ppl like those and all the others who expect 100% FG vs FG action on the most active rvr server, in primetime, in the "main rvr zone" highly amuse me tbh

and guess wot, no matter how much u whine at GoL this, GoL that, we will still go on playin like we want to coz _WE_ have great fun doin so and tbh thats all i care about :kissit:

 

[Stallion]

nah, no QQ at all.
ppl like those and all the others who expect 100% FG vs FG action on the most active rvr server, in primetime, in the "main rvr zone" highly amuse me tbh

and guess wot, no matter how much u whine at GoL this, GoL that, we will still go on playin like we want to coz _WE_ have great fun doin so and tbh thats all i care about :kissit:

you can kiss :kissit: aswell c0z I disagree

 

[[TB] Benedictine]

Xplo i thought ur a nice guy but ....seems like not ...ur just another idiot tbh.U been in guild for like huh 2 months? u didnt know shiet about it etc now stop talking about things u dont have a clue moron. Guys like u make me uke:

You know, actually apart from the last line, everything Xplo said is true :wub: Its a little unfair to attack him for that

 

[Ghostfeet]

nah, no QQ at all.
ppl like those and all the others who expect 100% FG vs FG action on the most active rvr server, in primetime, in the "main rvr zone" highly amuse me tbh

and guess wot, no matter how much u whine at GoL this, GoL that, we will still go on playin like we want to coz _WE_ have great fun doin so and tbh thats all i care about :kissit:

well having fg vs fg fight at prime to is difficult, if not impossible. tho that dont justify zerging, especially where ppl try to have fg fights, ie odins, even there ur crap zergs can be seen. sure u wanna zerg, stick to emain and leave places where ppl actually trying to have fair fights alone.

and the stuff about u having fun etc. well u even once thought about anyother having fun, being zerged by 2 fg GoL aint fun and if u think its fun to zerg ppl who r trying to play "fair" i feel sorry for u.
u actually brought about 2 fg td last time i was in odins, and before u came there was only fg fights, so thx for screwing that up to. :kissit:

 

[vintervargen]

nah, no QQ at all.
ppl like those and all the others who expect 100% FG vs FG action on the most active rvr server, in primetime, in the "main rvr zone" highly amuse me tbh

and guess wot, no matter how much u whine at GoL this, GoL that, we will still go on playin like we want to coz _WE_ have great fun doin so and tbh thats all i care about :kissit:

would you have fun if some hib guild went 3FG 24/7 and followed GoL to emain/odins/HW whatever?

 

[bult]

well GoL, we dont add on your fights we would like you to repay the favour thats all... up to you tho i guess

 

[Ghostfeet]

well GoL, we dont add on your fights we would like you to repay the favour thats all... up to you tho i guess

lycka till

 

[Divinia]

caragan> alderian, stealth zerg is more funny =)
^ random alb answering my question why he doesnt play normal rvr

define normal plz, caragan answered 100% correct imo

 

[flex]

well GoL, we dont add on your fights we would like you to repay the favour thats all... up to you tho i guess

but 20 other albs do, we don't go screaming at them tho

 

[Taen]

Ghostfeet i thought u were a nice guy but ur a idiot .. the reason GoL were in odin yesterday was it went out on /as that there were 7fgh in odin ..

and how long are u actually in BoB .. all of 2 days .. and now u are l33t .. i only want 1fg vs 1fg fights and i only go to odin ..

the thing about GoL everyone forgets is that they dont tell anyone else how to play this game and dont flame anybody for playing it the way they want .. if you have issues about 1fg vs 1fg fights then take it up with mythic .. as I said earlier, if u dont like primetime zerg then dont play primetime .. i dont !

and AD in all fairness .. telling ppl to "fo and die irl" for adding on a fight at amg in primetime is just pathetic really .. i would go and get a life outside a game if it makes me that mad.

 

[Tinyheals]

and after we do this from time to time, some albs have asked if they can add into our fight, and some albs have run past. If we have never done that, everyone would still add on sight. Hate us if you want to, couldnt care less, you play the game your way i play it my way,
if ppl add i whine
if ppl ask for help with enemies i dont help.

all credits for those who dont add into our fights even if we loose.
We wont add on you either to make more fun out of the game.
Thats what we are here for right?
not to farm rps, but to have fun.

my way of having fun is equal battles even if we win or loose,
not to steam over my enemies spit on them on the ground because they rolled infils or savages, and think that you really owned them.

 

[katt!]

Ghostfeet i thought u were a nice guy but ur a idiot .. the reason GoL were in odin yesterday was it went out on /as that there were 7fgh in odin ..

and how long are u actually in BoB .. all of 2 days .. and now u are l33t .. i only want 1fg vs 1fg fights and i only go to odin ..

the thing about GoL everyone forgets is that they dont tell anyone else how to play this game and dont flame anybody for playing it the way they want .. if you have issues about 1fg vs 1fg fights then take it up with mythic .. as I said earlier, if u dont like primetime zerg then dont play primetime .. i dont !

and AD in all fairness .. telling ppl to "fo and die irl" for adding on a fight at amg in primetime is just pathetic really .. i would go and get a life outside a game if it makes me that mad.

i wish i could dig up that picture of herbal spamming 100 lines of "FO IF YOU ARE NOT IN OUTLAWS OR GUNNERS GROUP"

 

[swords]

Ghostfeet i thought u were a nice guy but ur a idiot .. the reason GoL were in odin yesterday was it went out on /as that there were 7fgh in odin ..

and how long are u actually in BoB .. all of 2 days .. and now u are l33t .. i only want 1fg vs 1fg fights and i only go to odin ..

the thing about GoL everyone forgets is that they dont tell anyone else how to play this game and dont flame anybody for playing it the way they want .. if you have issues about 1fg vs 1fg fights then take it up with mythic .. as I said earlier, if u dont like primetime zerg then dont play primetime .. i dont !

and AD in all fairness .. telling ppl to "fo and die irl" for adding on a fight at amg in primetime is just pathetic really .. i would go and get a life outside a game if it makes me that mad.

he's been running in our groups for 2 months now.
And the attitude we have is that we prefer equal numbered fights.
For example, we just have a fight vs RR and a Mid guild group that seemed to go on for ages.
(TB came in at the end but it was mopping up time anyway)

 

[laaken]

Ghostfeet i thought u were a nice guy but ur a idiot .. the reason GoL were in odin yesterday was it went out on /as that there were 7fgh in odin ..

and how long are u actually in BoB .. all of 2 days .. and now u are l33t .. i only want 1fg vs 1fg fights and i only go to odin ..

the thing about GoL everyone forgets is that they dont tell anyone else how to play this game and dont flame anybody for playing it the way they want .. if you have issues about 1fg vs 1fg fights then take it up with mythic .. as I said earlier, if u dont like primetime zerg then dont play primetime .. i dont !

and AD in all fairness .. telling ppl to "fo and die irl" for adding on a fight at amg in primetime is just pathetic really .. i would go and get a life outside a game if it makes me that mad.

First of all, we just yell don't add gimps etc, we never yell that they should die irl or whatever. Tinyheals said it, if you don't want to endure the whine, then don't add on us. It's actually as simple as that. Our intentions with going out to Emain Macha or Odin's Gate is to try to have fun, but there's a problem. There are numerous things that actually spoils our precious fun, such as people adding on us, both realm-mates and other tools.

Now imagine that you're in the park with your friends playing ball against another team. It's a fair game and you're having fun etc. THEN all of a sudden a school class of gimps rushes out of the bushes, kicking the ball around and starts to stab the other team in the eyes. Aparently they've spoiled your fun and made your presumed victory void. How would you feel about this, wouldn't you be mad at the people that ruined your fun? Allso assume that they do this 90% of the times you play football.

Please don't add on us fellow realm-mates, we all show you the respect to not interfer in your solo-fights and spoil your rps, we allso never add and makes the fight unfair. When you add you actually makes this game worse for us, so with that said I hope that you have it in your hearts to leave us alone.

Sincerely yours, Laaken the h8master.

 

[Asha]

lol such whine.

The cg is there to report locations of enemies, most of the time im reporting enemies AFTER they kill us by which time they've normally moved.

FYI if your group kills enemies at a milegate and you stay there your asking to be whacked...

just wondering WTH is it written that that is what CG is for???
that is what it has evolved to on Excali - Albs are the worst ofc but Mids do this too - we start to win vs a fg in a random spot and in come the backups.

Ruins any chance of a fun fight imo. Why do people call out where the enemy is when it's equal numbers? I know why the stealthers do it...

edit: I know why Pitspawn does it too and it's damn annoying.

 

[vintervargen]

define normal plz, caragan answered 100% correct imo

non stealthed

 

[Pitspawn]

just wondering WTH is it written that that is what CG is for???
that is what it has evolved to on Excali - Albs are the worst ofc but Mids do this too - we start to win vs a fg in a random spot and in come the backups.

Ruins any chance of a fun fight imo. Why do people call out where the enemy is when it's equal numbers? I know why the stealthers do it...

edit: I know why Pitspawn does it too and it's damn annoying.

sigh

As i said i will report enemy AFTER our group has lost, there really shouldnt be a problem with that. After you kill a fg of enemy you normally move because you know there will be inc.

 

[Taen]

Great meteaphor laaken .. except the it dosent even remotly apply to daoc .. read what was advertised .. epic battles etc .. i never once read that the game was about 8 vs 8 counterstrike like encounters .. the game would facilitate 8 vs 8 combat if that was what it was meant for .. 8 vs 8 is an optional way of playing the game .. lust like zerging or keep taking is. I understand what is fun about 8 vs 8 encounters and its what i prefer personally but thats why i play late at night and early in the morning. why dont u send a message to all the hib/mid/alb grps ( their email is on duskwave ) and ask them to come to HW or odins every primetime and have non adding 1fg vs 1 fg fights instead of trying to dictate to others how to play the game .. remember there are lots of ppl out there who dont know as much about the game or is able to play it as well as you because they dont have the time. What do you suggest for these people in epic .. run out constantly and get farmed by the regular RvR palyers .. dont think so m8 .. its not fun for them.

 

[Fluid]

Basically, from this thread i see.... AD/BF/FC/TB/BOB love 1fg rvr and strife for it. GOL are too shit to earn rp's in 1fg so just run in zergs not giving a flying fuck about anyone else but themselves.

 

[flex]

gol only goes 2 sometimes 3 fg primetime @ emain.

1) gol ppl run in 1fg in afternoon too, not just gol only grps.
2) we have 30 ppl who want to rvr in the evening, so you say we should selecht 8 ppl and let the rest fo? Not what guilds are about imo
3) there are 150 ppl in emain @ primetime whereof max 30 gol. So yes we are the reason you can't do 1fg vs 1fg fights (aka farm poor albs who don't want to be ganked just everytime).
4) if 2 gol grps leave atk, we are 5 fg when we get to mmg.

The only thing that affects the zerg are the number of ppl of one realm (not one guild!) at the time in the emain/odins. If you would think just 1 second you should be able to see that.