Any Spaniards or ex-pat brits?

Discussion in 'The Front Room' started by ~Yuckfou~, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Sounds great. Whereabouts. Google map link so we can spy?

    If you don't mind me asking - what sort of figures you talking about? Presumably you'll need to spend the same again to do up to, what, a 2 bed farmhouse thing?
  2. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    Guy is asking 65,000, we have bid 35,000. He has come down to 55,000 so far but we don't want to pay more than 45/50,000. We need to spend 100,000(ish) on paperwork and renovations. Main house once reconfigured 2 large beds with ensuite, two further double beds with guest bathroom, Living room/Dining room/Hall/Kitchen. Two separate 100m2 rentals and 100m2 for our storage/workshop and a gym. Pool of course to be built.
    Epic views over the Almanzora valley. Great for walkers and cyclists or those that just want some peace and quiet. It's far from a done deal because of the paperwork nightmare with it, but our lawyer is optimistic we could get the deal done in 6/9 months.
    Fuck Mortgages.
    Fuck Brexit.

    edit: fucking snowing here, 14 and sunny there.
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  3. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    That's fucking amazing.

    Get it bought before no deal brexit happens. Pound is already for shit. Could lose 25%.

    I might be following you at those prices. I could flog a house and live mortgage free tomorrow!
  4. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    small update:
    Travelling out there again 12th April for a few days, Brexit allowing :(
    Going back with an architect to see what we are and aren't allowed to do. It's on rural land and we are very restricted, but shouldn't be a show stopper.
    If all goes well, for sale sign outside here and offer upped to the vendor. *Might* be there by July/August.
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  5. Gwadien

    Gwadien Uneducated Northern Cretin

    Okay then, since no-one else is going to say it.

    I know you're posting on here with your updates for a reason, when is the Freddies Inquisition to your villa?
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  6. Deebs

    Deebs Chief Arsewipe Staff member Moderator FH Subscriber

    Got any pics?
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  7. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    Sure bring all the tools you've got and your working gear. It's realistically a two year project. :(

    I'll post pics when (if) it's ours, don't want to jinx it.
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  8. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    Well FFS.
    Got a copy of the documents from the estate agent. House fine, amount of land fine. Problem is the land isn't the bit we were told. Pretty much all the land is behind the house in a ravine 100m or so away and completely fucking unusable, it's a black run++. Cunt told the agent the land was including a different parcel which may or may not be owned by the seller, we don't know yet.
    Anyhoo, offer withdrawn and Architect appointment cancelled.
    Still going in a few days but now doing loads of house viewings, back to square one.
    Hijo de Puta.
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  9. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

  10. dysfunction

    dysfunction FH is my second home

    Unfortunately I think this sort of thing happens quite a bit when buying abroad.
  11. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    That sucks a fat one.
  12. Embattle

    Embattle FH is my second home

    It certainly seems common in Spain.
  13. Deebs

    Deebs Chief Arsewipe Staff member Moderator FH Subscriber

    :( That sucks donkey balls, can you claim any monies spent on surveys etc as the cunt lied?
  14. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    Well there are often problems but predominately it's the building not the land. They have a tendency to throw a house up when no one is looking. Then somewhere down the line the problems start. Although in recent years the Spanish authorities have been taking a softer line and allowing post build permissions when peeps have been done up like a kipper. The paperwork for these buildings is all in order, I've seen it.

    Fortunately not spent any money yet, I spotted the discrepancy in the paperwork. Luckily I speak enough Spanglish to spot it.

    We find out tomorrow if the seller owns all the land or not. The estate agent has a meeting with the seller. If he does and it's included with the sale then we are back on track.

    We knew from the offset this wasn't going to be easy because of the type of property we want to buy.
  15. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    Fuckity shit bollocks.
    Not only does he not own the land, but it is owned by the local council.
    How he thought he would get away with this I really don't know. Estate agent is equally annoyed as they've spent plenty of time with us on site, emails, calls etc.

    So moving on. Viewing 15 or so properties in three days next week. Weather forecast is 23/24 degrees all day, so worse ways of spending our time. Looking forward to some cold beers and tapas.
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  16. Lakih

    Lakih FH is my second home

    Good luck dude!
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  17. dysfunction

    dysfunction FH is my second home

    Sorry to hear that. Hope you get what you after
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  18. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    Spent a couple of days over there earlier this week. Saw 15 or so houses, some great but too much money and no negotiation on price, some not so great. Late on the last day the agent we were with says there is a Cortijo not on your list just up the road, but I don't think you'll like it as there is probably too much work. We said we are here let's look anyway, nothing to lose.
    It's a little cracker! Similar to the place we loved, a little smaller with less land. It's got the same kind of position overlooking the valley and the mountains on the other side. Surrounded by olive and almond groves. There's potential for one really good rental, with a possible cabin as well in the grounds hidden away.
    So we've already got the paperwork and my Spanglish tells me the land and buildings are all good. Sent it all off to the lawyer but it's god holiday time over there this week so won't hear back until next week.
    Mrs Yuck likes it because there are 2 neighbours, one behind us and one to the side, but not at all intrusive. It makes her feel safer should anything happen either to me or if I'm not there. The village, Somontin , is only 5 minutes walk away and has the basics for day to day stuff. There's 2 other villages 5 minutes drive and a small town that has most stuff 10 minutes away.
    If the paperwork is OK we are going back in the next week or so with the architect and if all looks good put in an offer. Our house is going on the market in the next week or so whatever happens.
    To save money we've decided to buy a caravan and park it on the land until the house is partly habitable. That should be "interesting" in the heat over there, got a feeling tempers may get frayed from time to time :mad:.
    Trying not to get emotionally invested this time but it's not easy.
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  19. caLLous

    caLLous I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    Having spent a summer in the south of France in a mobile home, good luck with that. :)
  20. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    Looking to get the power hooked up there muy pronto. Then get a mobile aircon unit to help with the tempers, plus maybe put a decent sized fridge/freezer somewhere for cold drinks.
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  21. ~Yuckfou~

    ~Yuckfou~ Lovely person

    Jeez I could write a book about this.
    So we've been back since last post to see the house in Somontin with an Architect. It was a no go. Because some of the roof had collapsed (over 30%) we would not be able to get the building permissions we needed. So back to square one again.
    So we looked again at the house we originally fell in love with in Urracal. We got some more paperwork sent to us and did some digging. It turns out that it does have the amount of land he said but it's not the land he thought. So OK right? Nope. The land that he thought he owns has approx 100 bee hives on it. He had given permission for his mate to put them on there thinking it was his land. The bees are a big problem, they are attracted in their thousands to the irrigation water when it is running, which is on our land. So this would make a swimming pool completely unusable, unless you like to scuba. So we've checked if he has permission from the council who own the land and he does not. Win, we can have them shifted.
    The architect has seen all the paperwork for the house and is making very positive noises about it. He has told us we can do a "Tourist Project", which allows us to do anything we want to the house even demolish and rebuild if needed. As long as we are not nearer than 25m from the land boundary, which we are not.
    We've struck very lucky with this architect. He is a local guy, whose main office is in Almeria. He knows the area like the back of his hand and has done the town planning for most of the region, including Urracal. He has already saved us a shit load of money.
    So we are there again next week (4th time this year) to meet the architect at the house and plan things out. If he says we are safe to proceed then we need to start talking to the owner who is still asking a bit too much. Every penny is going to count as we will be doing pretty much all of our money. While we are there I'm going to see if there are any local government grants available for tourist projects.
    If this all pans out we will have a great house with 2 or 3 self catering rentals and a bike hire business.

    Hasta proxima.
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  22. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik FH is my second home

    Fingers crossed it works out!
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  23. Rubber Bullets

    Rubber Bullets Resident Freddy

    Yup, good luck, we're all rooting for you Yuck, not least cos we're all after cheap holidays in those self catering rentals!
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