Any advice how to kill a Merc? and how to kill Theondon too? :>

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Point taken. I'm merely annoyed at Hib stealthers side-stunning me from the front in general (not you personally).
 

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Puppet said:
Perhaps its aimed at me because Im the only active Nightshade in this thread who mentioned the 'anytime stun' from mercs?


and got anal with me :)
 

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Puppet said:
This is a Norse SB with 10 CON @ creation (which seems a valid starting stat), CL5, Aug Con V, Toughness V, 101CON/400HP-suite.

12%thrust and 211qui? looks like a retard :eek7:
 

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Konah said:
12%thrust and 211qui? looks like a retard :eek7:

Perhaps because it's on a test server where the character is equipped with items that 1) is easy to get, 2) caps con/hits to show the maximum hits a SB can get?

There are many obvious reasons to flame Puppet, this is however not one of them. ;)
 

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Konah said:
12%thrust and 211qui? looks like a retard :eek7:

Aye Konah, ur right..

Then again, try reading it in context and you might understand the resists or general stats wherent the issue here. Was merely showing in the thread how much HP a SB can get if he chooses to max it out.
 

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illu said:
They are just too tough :>

Can a Merc's DT be purged?

Is there anyway past the insane block and parry rate of Theodon? :)

Had some good fights tonight. I was playing with a few caster albs and got my fingers burnt a few times when I got too close :> Saw a mad fight of Theodon against a Hib Firby Thunderer Tank thing that went on for ages :> There were about 5 of us watching, and Blindguardian steamed in and slammed the Firby? After a word from Theodon he seemed to get the message to move on.

I need to somehow get my SB to hit harder ^^.

Oli - Illu
I no how to kill 1 find the highest point in the game,jump of it and hope he follows ya:)
 

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pip said:
I no how to kill 1 find the highest point in the game,jump of it and hope he follows ya:)

Don't do it alone though, dueling is wrong mmmkaaay?
 

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Neffneff said:
Don't do it alone though, dueling is wrong mmmkaaay?

rofl :D

if theyd just remove that spreading rep around crap :<<<
 

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pip said:
I no how to kill 1 find the highest point in the game,jump of it and hope he follows ya:)

I was thinking about this the other day - what is the highest point that we can jump off in this game?

I know there used to be a nice drop in DF that was quite a drop.

I know in TG there is a massive drop in that bird room?

Any of the ML's have massive drops?

I want to do some base-jumping :>

Oli - Illu
 

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just go and attack the foppish sleeves mob (cyrek) he throws people pretty high.
 

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Belomar said:
Point taken. I'm merely annoyed at Hib stealthers side-stunning me from the front in general (not you personally).

I can imagine. TBH Hib-stealthers should not have Ice-storm to be a stun, it should be BM-only. That was how it was intended in the first place, but Mythic got lazy and a few patches later, NS/Ranger got the stun aswell.

I dont really understand NS using it so much tho, seems to me the 50 CD-spec is quite inferiour to the 50 CS-spec, but oh well, everyone plays and specs like they want. For rangers I can imagine speccing 50 CD and be a StealthBM.
 

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illu said:
I was thinking about this the other day - what is the highest point that we can jump off in this game?

I know there used to be a nice drop in DF that was quite a drop.

I know in TG there is a massive drop in that bird room?

Any of the ML's have massive drops?

I want to do some base-jumping :>

Oli - Illu
Old snowdonia used to have that nice drop............. thanks mythic. Ruin some more nice things! :<
Atleast we have old zones........ -_-
 

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logon alb, goto clifton and basejump into the river from the top of the cliffs :) good 3 secs of freefall :) alternativly from a dragonfly on the way to isle of injhkjkjfhfhfkjwhateverthefuckitscalled
 

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Ging said:
logon alb, goto clifton and basejump into the river from the top of the cliffs :) good 3 secs of freefall :) alternativly from a dragonfly on the way to isle of injhkjkjfhfhfkjwhateverthefuckitscalled

Inishail.
 

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DT is retarded.

Make it PBAOE insta. 1 min dur 5 rut. all enemy targets in pbaoe radius get 20% chance to fumble. PB does not uncover stealthers.

atm u go up against a merc, he cracks DT. You basically dont hit him. He hits you. Therefore you die.

Easy to say, hey just run away. That isnt a solution to an overpowered ability, its just avoiding it. BL mercs got more than enough grunt to be awsome light tank. DT is just something which turns a potentially tough fight into a boring no contest. Merc is a group character. Give abilities which are usefull in widescale mass RVR and FG contests, not abilities which are useless in mass rvr but devastating (in a ZZZzzzz way) in small scale rvr.

the sign of a good solo merc is they dont use it because THEY KNOW it turns a contest into a no contest (samaroon, undyingangel, jamie etc)
 

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Censi, what do you do when you fight a zerk and he vendos? Is this not equally devastating in small scale rvr? Why not just avoid mercs if DT is such a problem, or wait until you see them use it and then attack?

The whole point of light tanks is that they get these abilities which makes them different from heavy tanks. Either kite until its down (because remember you can use disease whereas mercs can't) or don't attack or use a fumble proc back so you both hit nothing.
 

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Tilda said:
Either kite until its down (because remember you can use disease whereas mercs can't) or don't attack or use a fumble proc back so you both hit nothing.

he's a ranger mate, not an assasin.
 

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Puppet said:
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this is cheat/fake =)

the fucker doesnt even have 10 full bubles of experience with 87mill rp's.

its 87mill right? :)
 

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its a stupid ability tilda.

like versus any other tank class at least I can hit them or if they are more of a defensive tank its countered by them having a weaker offense. Like I can play some of my cards like FZ them, crack malice, I might have WH or som running, IP whatever. lot of fights versus all the other tank classes in the game are hardcore, vendo zerk is an example of it. but I can do summin about it...

mercs its a waste of time poping anyting because at the end of the day you cant hit them. the fumble rate or % chance is ridiculous in 1v1 situations as is the duration of it. Combine this with the natural offense the light tank class has and you get godmode in melee encounter.
 

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Matmardigan said:
this is cheat/fake =)

the fucker doesnt even have 10 full bubles of experience with 87mill rp's.

its 87mill right? :)

Think its a test server, so you can just make it all up.
 

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Best way to beat a good merc/Theodon as an assasin is to duel them unbuffed and get the pop on them <u are unbuffed also ofc>

Beat rr6-7 mercs in poc this way with my ns when she was rr3 , just vanish away from dt and come back and eat them alive :) Simple
 

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Spetsnaz said:
it was good fight untill sone stupid alb came and slammed me...

You consider grappling lvl 42 cleric's and then twf it also good fight's mega m8?

And yes i did get killed in a rvr zone, whilst xp'ing! twice actually :mad:
 

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ok
what about vamps? then they do fumble + ooe spell but thats ok i guess oO
 

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Mrkill said:
ok
what about vamps? then they do fumble + ooe spell but thats ok i guess oO
ooe can be anoying, most have/use end pots tho, and with my 13sm i dont take enough end from them to set them out of the contest ;)

and vamps fumble can be purged or resisted as i said before (it gets resisted allot! btw)
 

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Censi, you realise mercs get pbaoe fumble as well already? Because by looks of it you dont.

It is their RR5 ability and it gets resisted 75% of the time.

Yes DT is overpowered in a 1vs1, but then there a lot of things that are overpowered in a 1vs1 that come as standard on characters. Is it fair you can FZ someone and continue to hit them without them hitting you back? As that basically the same as DT but least when DT'd it only a chance not to hit back. A big chance but still only a chance, FZ is a certainty. May not last as long but is still a powerful tool...

Well it is as long as you dont use it just before getting rr5 stunned by a theurg, still think it funny when that happened to you. Shear luck on the timing :D

Anyways, the point is there alot of abilities that are overpowered in 1vs1 in each realm. Ways to counter them all mind you. You dont seem to complain about many the others though such as the Vamp fumble debuff (but then you dont fight that). It can be continuously applied, does seem to succeed more then it doesnt from my experience as every vamp lands it on me and on top of this they get alot more powerfull abilities (claw spamming, HoT etc etc)
 

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