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Enli

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ever been on excal?
these situations u speak of are nothing
these albs aren't really zerging, try the relicraid the albs did on mid early NF
or just the retakes they do on their towers, 100 albs for a fg defending, imo u have nothing to complain yet :)
 

Puppet

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p0x said:
You might wanna try hitting something with even the slightest form of defence with reaver wskill before mining your colon for more of that crap you came up with, pupp :|

Ofcourse it hasnt the same degree of defense penetration as a dualwielding pure tank with 2K+ WS.

But those dont have the same utility; you make a CHOICE when you roll a hybrid or a zerk/bm/merc; it would be rather strange if u did the same AND have a shield dont ya think ?

And dont overrate it; u can hit the majority of peeps easily (casters, support, offensive light-tanks); only real problems will be shieldtank in their frontal-arcs; which are most often not primary targets anyhow. Dont forget the argument goes either way since it will be harder to break through his defenses too.
 

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Puppet said:
Ofcourse it hasnt the same degree of defense penetration as a dualwielding pure tank with 2K+ WS.

But those dont have the same utility; you make a CHOICE when you roll a hybrid or a zerk/bm/merc; it would be rather strange if u did the same AND have a shield dont ya think ?

And dont overrate it; u can hit the majority of peeps easily (casters, support, offensive light-tanks); only real problems will be shieldtank in their frontal-arcs; which are most often not primary targets anyhow. Dont forget the argument goes either way since it will be harder to break through his defenses too.

Did you realise in the time it took you to come up with a responce with crapy agrument Derric managed to spamm a whole page.
 

Bubble

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Besides
This is a Brites a Wanker thread
not a Reavers are OP thread

Flame Brite, Blame derric etc
 

Puppet

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Derric said:
As I were saying Puppet: "Not saying a reaver is gimped in any way".
Nice to see you comment as a lvl 41 reaver though, you don't even have all the styles yet.

I miss levithian and cobra. Cobra is 4th in block-chain with lifetap-proc like indigo tho adjusted for level. Levithian Im very familiar with; its the only style 90% of the reavers spam.

And I can't really see any reason why you'd wanna use a 2 hit chain when 1 style can outdamage both of them.

EXACTLY. But you started about Levithian with a resisted proc. I said you had the option if you choose to.

Rather insane damage on Constrictor? If you say so...

It is quite insane for a S/S tank yeah. Levithian is better because of the proc.

To be able to use both slash and crush is quite funky, but to be able to do so you miss out on the best weapon (imo) ingame for reaver.

Im afraid I dont understand you in this one. Im saying Flexible is both slash and crush damage (you can choose) like Hib LW for example. I dont see how u miss out the best weapon ingame for a reaver but thats me :O Especially fighting Hibs this makes a difference; hitting a bard with crush and a druid with slash makes quite a difference in damage afterall :O
 

Derric

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Puppet said:
Im afraid I dont understand you in this one. Im saying Flexible is both slash and crush damage (you can choose) like Hib LW for example. I dont see how u miss out the best weapon ingame for a reaver but thats me :O Especially fighting Hibs this makes a difference; hitting a bard with crush and a druid with slash makes quite a difference in damage afterall :O

I meant Snakecharmer's Whip is slash only, and yeah, you could craft a similar crusher, but you'd miss out on ToA bonuses and some resists+the proc if you did.
 

Kjel

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Bubble said:
Finding Nemo!

Pfffff, haven't seen that yet. But no worries, I shall send Incrediboy (Derric) to go watch it for me and report back!
 

p0x

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I know this might come as a suprise to you puppet, since nearly no one seems to use it properly anymore, but def tanks have GUARD :OD
 

Marchus

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Puppet is right, but Levi is better dmg then indigosnake + constrictor and the best is if we use both. And aoe dd will be good for interrupt too >-), and it will be better, if don't clicking on it like mad (if it got resisted it still interrupt, not like the debuffs), tho u only can use it in 4 secs, not in 2 secs.

If the enemy purge slam, then the chains are good, Cobra is the best style in the game, tho it's sometimes hard to do the complete chain for it: viper, copperhead, taipain, cobra. The only problem is if the enemy is a caster, and he won't use staff (tho really few bds use it sometimes :flame: ), so u can only stun, strafe, or kill it slowly if u are not in a hurry -p.

I am w8-ing for 1.72, it will be nice to use lower lvl stun to make the enemy purge, then in a few secs later use slam -p.
 

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Puppet said:
Im afraid I dont understand you in this one. Im saying Flexible is both slash and crush damage (you can choose) like Hib LW for example. I dont see how u miss out the best weapon ingame for a reaver but thats me :O Especially fighting Hibs this makes a difference; hitting a bard with crush and a druid with slash makes quite a difference in damage afterall :O

Think hes means snakecharmers whip there
 

Derric

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Kjel said:
Pfffff, haven't seen that yet. But no worries, I shall send Incrediboy (Derric) to go watch it for me and report back!

It's about this chinese guy who thinks he's a roman emperor and sets lots of things on fire.
Best scene is where he uses a flamethrower on a cornfield and there's like popcorn everywhere!! /drool

(I think the emperor was called Nero, but the chinese guy didn't know that)
 

Kjel

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Well done Incrediboy! I shall cherish this new found knowledge and lord it over my multitude of minions!!!
 

Bubble

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such roleplayers :)

I bet next summer theres going to be a film called Violent Nero.
 

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inqy said:
You mean one specline of the class is overpowed. And by overpowered you mean generally in a 1v1 way I presume.
Yes I mean one specline of the class is overpowered and that makes the class over powered. If not every fotm class could spec lame and call them selves a gimped class. And then no classes are overpowered but instead all classes are underpowered.

And no I don't only mean 1v1. TWF, Negative Maelstrom and Banespike, add healing pets, lifetap, allure of death to that and it makes them neat in zergs aswell as grp battles :>
 

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Kjel said:
Well done Incrediboy! I shall cherish this new found knowledge and lord it over my multitude of minions!!!

At what point does a follower become a minion?
 

Kjel

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When they become competent enough to give direct orders to and to gloat around. If you can't gloat with them around, they're still just followers and should not be privy to you gloating! All Evil Genii should know this!
 

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Kjel said:
When they become competent enough to give direct orders to and to gloat around. If you can't gloat with them around, they're still just followers and should not be privy to you gloating! All Evil Genii should know this!

Sorry boss :(
Must be quiet noisy having a multitude of gloating people around you ^^
 

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Derric said:
I meant Snakecharmer's Whip is slash only, and yeah, you could craft a similar crusher, but you'd miss out on ToA bonuses and some resists+the proc if you did.


Can replace it with another proc obviously and tbh hitting with a crusher on a bard makes it worthwhile IMO. Or on a healer/shaman etc.

And the guard comment.. Rarely see peeps do guard nowadays; for a very few exceptions. Reaver can however interrupt the one being guarded effectively and if there's an assist-train with the reaver he can most likely pull of a slam on the hero/warrior in his back.

Only active warrior i think is Foadon who doesnt guard I think (he's mostly hitting stuff ?) mostly bodyguard; where all tanks have the 'same' problem.
 

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Brite said:
Whats the challenge in outnumbering your oponents everytime ?

Doesn't the game get boreing with no challenge beacuse you just zerg everything in every way possible ?

You have some of the most overpowered classes in the game but still you feel the need to zerg the hell out of everything?


I think your a bunch of fuck tards who darent move away from there precious keeps or camped bridge where there little zerg resides

Your all boreing :wanker:


oh and the stealther zerg has grown by 20% to make up for no str relics :flame:
You prefer camping dropoff point at bled at 10 am to gank solo mercs xDD :wanker:
 

Marchus

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Puppet said:
Rarely see peeps do guard nowadays; for a very few exceptions. Reaver can however interrupt the one being guarded effectively and if there's an assist-train with the reaver he can most likely pull of a slam on the hero/warrior in his back.

Only active warrior i think is Foadon who doesnt guard I think (he's mostly hitting stuff ?) mostly bodyguard; where all tanks have the 'same' problem.

well, reaver ws is not on the same table like tanks, tho we have nice dex (second stat raise). And while u are guarding, u can't do dmg mainly, only use dmg debuff, slam, and some from the chains if u are lucky. And guard is not a 100% protect, so peeps not feel it important, I only use guard and intercept vs archers, and if I am near a caster that got a tank on his neck, tho I don't try "face" to the tank.
 

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Brite said:
Whats the challenge in outnumbering your oponents everytime ?

Doesn't the game get boreing with no challenge beacuse you just zerg everything in every way possible ?

You have some of the most overpowered classes in the game but still you feel the need to zerg the hell out of everything?


I think your a bunch of fuck tards who darent move away from there precious keeps or camped bridge where there little zerg resides

Your all boreing :wanker:


oh and the stealther zerg has grown by 20% to make up for no str relics :flame:

I think it's not the fault of Albion. Have a look to our underpopulated realm. They do realy good. Yeah, now we all can whine about Animists. But what they have beside this freaky class is realmspirit. They fight together, they care for their towers and keeps. All realms have some nice classes that the other can whine about. So use yours together with some help and get out your lazy asses and do anythig together. Yes, we are more bla.. bla.. bla. Have a look at Hibs again here.
 

Stunned

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Seriously all this talk about realmspirit etc is pure bs. Before NF albs didnt rvr much when Mid was totally dominating.

Now Albs have the advantage in NF and all the sudden its fun to rvr again. Why ? Because winning is more fun the losing.

Thats the "new realmspirit".
 

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