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[old.Jeriraa]

Well, personaly I can admit without problems that I have been tempted to use a radar tool just out of curiosity. - Curiosity kills the cat.

So far I have resisted this temptation. If I ever get banned, with warnings or without I will know why! And one thing is for sure: I wont come here crying for sympathy like a 5 year old kid saying "But I didnt do nothing!". But maybe thats because I got some honor and self esteem.

 

[dokujin]

Originally posted by Xeanor
And as long as GOA haven't said he cheated, you have absolutely NO right to say he did.

And they never will. They aren't even allowed to.

Jeri: completely agreed with you on all points ;p

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by Xeanor
And as long as GOA haven't said he cheated, you have absolutely NO right to say he did.

Getting 2 accounts banned is proof enough for me.

 

[Damon_D]

Originally posted by Xeanor
And as long as GOA haven't said he cheated, you have absolutely NO right to say he did.

Ohhh and since when did that law get introduced here on barry's whine ??? I see a million alb's speewing crap about mid needing nerf's all the time , based on shit that aint true...

 

[)nick(]

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
http://camelot-europe.goa.com/news/newsarticle.php3?id_article=1272

That's like saying to a suspect: "Right we may or may not have some evidence, but we're going to lock you up anyway. Here's a copy of the lawbook when you've found out what we're charging you with it won't make a blind bit of difference as we don't like the way you combed your hair this morning.'

Atleast tell him what he's done wrong.

 

[Xeanor]

Seen other people who got banned, they got a email about 3rd party programs, that they used it, and that their account was banned permanently, and they didn't come crying here, because they knew they did it.

But this, what the hell happened? He gets a message "Your account has been deleted.", totally different of what others got, and both accounts have been "deleted", not "banned", which is what should have been the message and emailed to him if that's what really happened.

If you cheat, you get banned, you get a email you have been banned, and you know you cheated.

Situation with Gohrim: very different, nothing of the info Gohrim has gotten/has been given is the same as what cheaters got.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by -nicolas-
That's like saying to a suspect: "Right we may or may not have some evidence, but we're going to lock you up anyway. Here's a copy of the lawbook when you've found out what we're charging you with it won't make a blind bit of difference as we don't like the way you combed your hair this morning.'

Atleast tell him what he's done wrong.

Fact is: We dont know what he has done.
Fact is: We dont know what proof GOA has.
Fact is: He could tell everything he wants and you would believe it.

Fact is: You get suspended for violations of CoC or Eula.
Fact is: A permanent ban is an extreme punishment for an extreme crime.
Fact is: He got 2 accounts permanently banned.

Interpret these facts the way you want. I do it my way and for me everything seems crystal clear.

 

[dokujin]

Originally posted by Xeanor
Seen other people who got banned, they got a email about 3rd party programs, that they used it, and that their account was banned permanently, and they didn't come crying here, because they knew they did it.

But this, what the hell happened? He gets a message "Your account has been deleted.", totally different of what others got, and both accounts have been "deleted", not "banned", which is what should have been the message and emailed to him if that's what really happened.

If you cheat, you get banned, you get a email you have been banned, and you know you cheated.

Situation with Gohrim: very different, nothing of the info Gohrim has gotten/has been given is the same as what cheaters got.

Do you REALLY HONESTLY think that GOA would just say "You've been wtfpwned" or do you think Gohrim maybe is deflecting a tiny wee bit from the truth in a feeble attempt to save his stinking hide from this timely demise? <Ughh>

 

[Xeanor]

Originally posted by dokujin
Do you REALLY HONESTLY think that GOA would just say "You've been wtfpwned" or do you think Gohrim maybe is deflecting a tiny wee bit from the truth in a feeble attempt to save his stinking hide from this timely demise? <Ughh>

Yes, if you cheat, you get a email saying you cheated and that you've been banned.

 

[Xeanor]

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Fact is: He got 2 accounts permanently banned.

Then where is the message/email they were banned? Oh wait... you just assume they're banned, and nothing else happened? How about that MrX who had access to all accounts and making his own chars Gamemaster? Oh wait you don't think of that either...

 

[dokujin]

Originally posted by Xeanor
Yes, if you cheat, you get a email saying you did and that you've been banned.

You obviously don't understand what I'm saying.. maybe Gohrim got that message from them, how would we know if or if not? He could, as someone said earlier, say whatever he wanted and you'd buy it.

Scenario: Gohrim cheats and gets banned, gets an email from Goa explaining everything. Then jumps to BW and says "omg dey is of raped my wife and killed my baby lets riot". Or something the like. You get the picture.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by Xeanor
Then where is the message/email they were banned? Oh wait... you just assume they're banned, and nothing else happened? How about that MrX who had access to all accounts and making his own chars Gamemaster? Oh wait you don't think of that either...

Completly different matter: Just out of interest, do you believe in St. Claus?

 

[Zii]

like he would post here if he cheated anyway..

(still not saying he did)

 

[Xeanor]

Originally posted by dokujin
You obviously don't understand what I'm saying.. maybe Gohrim got that message from them, how would we know if or if not? He could, as someone said earlier, say whatever he wanted and you'd buy it.

Scenario: Gohrim cheats and gets banned, gets an email from Goa explaining everything. Then jumps to BW and says "omg dey is of raped my wife and killed my baby lets riot". Or something the like. You get the picture.

So who's the one who's grouped a lot with Gohrim? Me or you?

And who knows his IRL friend Fadeh better, me or you?

I don't think he would ever cheat, but I don't exclude that it is possible.

 

[)nick(]

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Fact is: We dont know what he has done.
Fact is: We dont know what proof GOA has.
Fact is: He could tell everything he wants and you would believe it.

Fact is: You get suspended for violations of CoC or Eula.
Fact is: A permanent ban is an extreme punishment for an extreme crime.
Fact is: He got 2 accounts permanently banned.

Interpret these facts the way you want. I do it my way and for me everything seems crystal clear.

I doubt anyone is stupid enough to actually come on here claiming innocence whithout a squeeky clean and clear conscience.

I guess we'll just have to put it down to faith or naivety depending on where you stand. Just think it's a wee bit early to start playing judge and jury on this matter.

I for one am very interested as to what GOA have to say on this matter.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by -nicolas-
I doubt anyone is stupid enough to actually come on here claiming innocence whithout a squeeky clean and clear conscience.

I for one am very interested as to what GOA have to say on this matter.

You mean people comming to BW have usaly reasonable arguments? Find me 10 threads conisting of 100% reasonable arguments and I'll transfer you 2€ for each.

As for GOA: They aint allowed to comment on anything to anyone else but the subject.


Edit: I'm outa this as I'm just repeating over and over what I already said and some people will never get it anyway.

 

[dokujin]

Originally posted by Xeanor
So who's the one who's grouped a lot with Gohrim? Me or you?

And who knows his IRL friend Fadeh better, me or you?

I don't think he would ever cheat, but I don't exclude that it is possible.

While me on the other hand, would not even blink if I was told that Gohrim was a cheater. It all depends on what side of the person you get to meet, eh? Still doesn't change the fact that Gohrim's first post has absolutely zero facts or reliable information, nor has he ever given me and many others any reason to take his word. Maybe you do, but if so, my heart bleeds for you, dear Teador.

 

[dokujin]

Originally posted by -nicolas-
I doubt anyone is stupid enough to actually come on here claiming innocence whithout a squeeky clean and clear conscience.

I guess we'll just have to put it down to faith or naivety depending on where you stand. Just think it's a wee bit early to start playing judge and jury on this matter.

I for one am very interested as to what GOA have to say on this matter.

You can safely say that we all do. Perhaps, excluding Gohrim

 

[Xeanor]

Originally posted by dokujin
While me on the other hand, would not even blink if I was told that Gohrim was a cheater. It all depends on what side of the person you get to meet, eh? Still doesn't change the fact that Gohrim's first post has absolutely zero facts or reliable information, nor has he ever given me and many others any reason to take his word. Maybe you do, but if so, my heart bleeds for you, dear Teador.

I've played weeks and weeks with Faderullan, I'm 100% sure he doesn't cheat, and I'm sure he hates cheating. He knwos Gohrim IRL, I haven't played that much together with Gohrim to be sure he doesn't cheat, but I wouldn't know in what way he would do it so bad to get 2 accounts banned, he's cleric in the groups I've been in, if he would use radar, he couldn't make use of it unless he tells the group leader where to go, but Faderullan doesn't know where every enemy is, so he doesn't use that, and tell me 1 other 3rd party program that has such a heavy impact on the game to get 2 accounts banned right away? I've heard of people getting a 3 days ban because of macro'ing crafting, so he didn't do that, IF he actually was doing something wrong, which we don't know.

 

[dokujin]

Doesn't matter "what impact" the program does, it's against the law, and when the line is crossed, there will be no mercy, no matter if its one inch or 1000 yards over the limit. And just for the record, this ain't about Faderullan.. at all. So drop it.

Now.. lets all stop speculating and see what GOA has to say, if you please Mr. Kemor? Yeah yeah, you're not allowed to say anything, but atleast, can we have a crowd-stimulator? ;o

 

[)nick(]

Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
You mean people comming to BW have usaly reasonable arguments? Find me 10 threads conisting of 100% reasonable arguments and I'll transfer you 2€ for each.

As for GOA: They aint allowed to comment on anything to anyone else but the subject.


Edit: I'm outa this as I'm just repeating over and over what I already said and some people will never get it anyway.

No need to jump on the I-am-holier-than-BW bandwagon. You have indeed yet to convince me as to why we should abandon all reasoning and get out the tar and feathers at the slightest hint of foulplay. This might be a discussion forum about a game based in the middle ages, but that doesn't mean we have to post using the same mannerism of that era

So gohrim any news?

 

[Staan]

that remind me while i was playing warcraft3 when all of a sudden a thousand of accounts were banned (for 1 month) because maphack use.

and any hoo some threads popped here and there owww wtf blizzard banned my accounts and deleted my chars (well not really char but you know, you got an icon for the games you won etc, bah well you ever played wc3 or not ffs lol? in fact they had their stats deleted.)

that was funny to see that some top of the best players in the ladders were maphack users.

 

[Xeanor]

Originally posted by dokujin
Doesn't matter "what impact" the program does,

Wrong.

Originally posted by dokujin
And just for the record, this ain't about Faderullan.. at all. So drop it.

Well then tell in what way he would cheat so bad to get 2 accounts banned, without me knowing? If he would use radar, both me and Fadeh would know, and Fadeh would be actually the one making use of it, this is 100% untrue though.

 

[dokujin]

Originally posted by Staan
that remind me while i was playing warcraft3 when all of a sudden a thousand of accounts were banned (for 1 month) because maphack use.

and any hoo some threads popped here and there owww wtf blizzard banned my accounts and deleted my chars (well not really char but you know, you got an icon for the games you won etc, bah well you ever played wc3 or not ffs lol? in fact they had their stats deleted.)

that was funny to see that some top of the best players in the ladders were maphack users.

<Staan says something in a language you don't understand.>
/em makes strange emotions.

 

[dokujin]

Originally posted by Xeanor
Wrong.

Rly?

 

[Staan]

could you say the same thing in german or french? w/o using some babelfish crap.

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by Staan
could you say the same thing in german or french? w/o using some babelfish crap.

I could. In German at least.... I could try Russian too but that would prolly give bad results.

 

[Cush]

Originally posted by Staan
could you say the same thing in german or french? w/o using some babelfish crap.

can you say it in swedish?

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Originally posted by -nicolas-
Dat doet mij denken aan de tijd waarin ik warcraft III speelde, toen ineens heel veel accounts werden gebanned (voor 1 maand) omdat ze gebruik maakte van maphack.

En iedere hoer? Destijds kwamen er een hoop threads van oowww wtf blizzard heeft mijn account gebanned! (*ramble*)

Was wel grappig om te zien dat veel van de beste spelers gebanned waren!

Is that Danish? I can actually read most of it.... its kinda like retarded German. (No offense here! This statement is based on the fact that my mother is a teacher for mentaly handycapped children and that some of them actually write like that.)

 

[Lochlyessa]

it's dutch, but you're close!