About the 2 Relic raids i KINDA leaded

[Svartmetall]

The only real advantage we have out of any of the classes you mentioned in current NF rvr is the range on sorc mezz which with all the aoe siege equipement bombing the place to shit is mostly irrelivent till one side charges and all realms benefit from archer zergs.

Actually the extra range Scouts have causes a lot of grief - the Scout /assistzerg is very demoralising and makes many people think there's just no point even being there, since Alb archers get more range than anyone else's archers. Stick your head out and it comes back 2 seconds later with 10 arrows in it, from a range the other two sides' archers simply cannot shoot back at. Equalising each realm's archery range would be a very good step, in the same way as each realm's bolt range is equal.

 

[[NO]Magmatic]

Tbh, I'm not sure how many where at the relic keep, but I do know 180 albs took Glenlock, and I know that the BG that was up to defend Glenlock only had 130 mids...

All in all, I doubt albs won cause of supperior tactics at the relic gate... That battle was probably won purely cause of larger numbers... As skill isnt as much of an issue in such a large battle...

Still doesnt mean it doesnt deserve a grats, it does... Albs have had Bledmeer and Nottmoor for a couple of days now... If anything, that had to be stopped...

Doubt a lot of mids will suddenly quit daoc though... Or PvE more... Once our realm is cleaned up a bit more, I expect mids to come play a lot more in albions backyard... If they do, as a mid myself, I'll call them whiny spoiled brats that need a good beating

So dont worry, we'll come by and play in hadrian's wall/etc more

 

[ShivaW]

4fg dont need relics to kill 1fg.

not all run with 4fg......

 

[Vodkafairy]

not all run with 4fg......

shame in NF its too hard to find those people :x

 

[Nomans Land]

Ok after finishing this I just realised no one will bother to read even half of it, but I had fun writing it.

I didnt wanna post this in the other thread coz I cba having to update it every 5min to read some new whine. But I say this...

Why whine in the first place? As pointed out everywhere, Mids and Hibs had relics for a long time and Albion had NOTHING. Every time we took something back it got snatched away again. We lived like this for how long? And now that we are finally doing something we get flamed for it, ive noticed some Mids and Hibs have the decentcy to say Gratz and nothing more, but looking at most of the Mid replys, their crying.

Ive also seen the stats "170 Albions, 250 Mids" or so... it means nothing really. How many were anon on Albion then? How many Mids were anon? How many of those Mids were BBs? How many of those Albions werent helping with relic but running solo, duo, FG around, how many Mids doing the same?

I wasnt at the relic gate but im sure Albion did have a bigger number, and maybe Tappi did lead the zerg there, so why still not gratz him? You slag albions all the time about being half-wits and cant do anything, well now we are doing something.

Really ive never cared who had the relics just been on raids coz I like the see how they end up, unfortunity its by flaming all the time.

Mids who can accept they lost their relics /salute. Mids who cant grow up and deal with it, maybe Albion numbers are ruining this game but so are your whines.

If you want FG action Hibernia seems to be the place now so go there, they need it believe me.

This game is dying yes, but for one simple reason. Mids and Hibs are giving up so easily because they losing their relics. Come back in 1.71, you can get a Relic each night by a AC raid its easy! bring 50mids, a few rams and there will only be a few defenders, hey presto then we have to get it from your shrine again.

And im not blaming everything on Mid/Hib here. I also blame Mythic, they have concentrated on the wrong thing (NF) they need to sort out numbers but they cant stop people from chosing the realm they want to play. I would of gladly played another realm pre-ToA. Apart from the lose of good friends. But now its to late to turn back unless you are gonna have someone to help you with it all again.

I was thinking of going WoW but now im not sure. I like the game style of DAoC (in RvR anyway) of keeps and the like, but some times it can get boring. But if WoW does kill the game even more, then so be it, DAoC has had a good life, and now its on its life support machine. Its only a matter of time before the plug is pulled.

Stop whining (Albions, Mids and Hibs, all of you) try to enjoy the game, if someone zergs and you dont like it, find something else to do, like go Hib and FGvFG. Even if you attack and take a tower in Hib you can get aleast 2FG of them out to pharm, same with Mid abit more inland, and can also be done with albion at the right times.

Mids were fighting a war on two fronts, imo they should of left Blend alone and focused all on Glen since Blend does nothing, let Hibs have it.

What goes around comes around, our turn to have the relics for a few weeks maybe, or untill 1.71 but after that im sure we wont have them that much.

Damn I do talk alot... night all

 

[Solarius]

I'm not normally one to whine, but I can understand why some do. My favourite RvR character is my shade, but RvRing with her these days is akin to root canal work. I hit an alb steather -warder btw, so no rr advantage - and solo I've no chance. Infs hit me back 2 or 3x as hard as I hit (using 2 99% legendaries, not heat but matter, though most of my targets don't have heaters anyway), scouts just slam and critshot critshot critshot... and this was before Albs had all the strength relics.

Attack a mage and die also, getting hit by a Wizard for over 1k damage from a bolt (with 15% heat resist and top heat resist buffs)... now soon they will have all the power relics.

But, it'll hopefully even out in 1.71, so I'll soldier on. Just wish Mythic had some broader strategy for population imbalance than everything we've seen them do so far.

 

[Khartoum]

stupid ass, how many mids/hibs do you think gonna rvr when alb holds all or almost all relics?

GRATS.

I bet it was jolly fun to be the realm on top when you had power relics for 1 year+, but now all of the sudden when the tide turned it's just baby-cries and whine. You certainly had nothing to complain about when hibs had the pow-relics, so I guess you are the kind of boy who think all is ok when things are to YOUR favour and when that advantage turn you don't have enough spine or sense of sport to try fight back - you just feel irritated. Quit the game is my advice, when something supposed to be fun leads to negative feelings you know you took a wrong turn somewhere.

Simple little hipocrit..

 

[Kelan]

U got most your realm together and thats it.Mids didnt so we lost pretty simple.

 

[Nomans Land]

/salute Solarius!!! One of few Hibs that even after getting beat wants to keep playing.

 

[Raven]

all those relics and they still cant take beno tower off us, but gratz though, must have been hard work

 

[Leel]

Totally agree with svartmetall on the scout range issue. That's the really bothersome thing, not the damage. And sorc range mez spam with better radius than other realms is fekking annoying. You can spam amnesia in return yes, but it doesn't really interrupt, it merely stops the current casting and you can start casting a new spell immediately. And if a healer sticks his nose out to spam amnesia, he will get toasted by scouts. Personally I was on ml 6 raid with my bard on prydwen when relics were taken, didn't even know about it till they were lost. And no, I don't really think it warrants a grats. Sounds like mids didn't care, and those that tried to defend played stupid. Well, I can understand the nocare attitude really, gets really repetitive and boring. Not sure if I would have bothered to go out even if I knew about the raid tbh.

 

[Ronin]

Funny, Mids will run to WoW and claim they lost due to beeing outnumberd. Sad realy that instead of leaving with a high flag, they will limp to WoW with it up their arse. Mids/Hibs had such "l33t" groups running with voice progs and radar for such a long time. Beeing ingnorant to all players including their own realm mates. Truly "pwning" with alarm raids and such...
Now tho the "roleplay" realm that always came out 2nd best due to slower comunication with usage of different forms of guild/chat groups... Have triumphed by beeing far superior in handling a large number of players due to "unleet" comunication habits.
Its tough not beeing able to play with more then 8 players at the time isnt it.
And were are the "l33t" Mid/hib guilds now ?
Hiding under a rock claiming NF sucks ?

Have fun in wow, and hope there will be another "better" mmorpg out by the time people fuck you over in WoW aswell.
And sience you claim you cant play without the Relics, and the odds of seeing you gather up the knowhow to reclaim them...

I guess this i goodbye, sayonara motherfuckers.

 

[Muylaetrix]

about the size of the albion zerg ...

Albion Hibernia Midgard Total
Characters 11,598 (41%) 7,064 (25%) 9,592 (34%)
Active Characters 5,117 (43%) 2,871 (24%) 3,964 (33%)
Level 50's 4,373 (40%) 2,967 (27%) 3,689 (33%)
Realm Points 1,700,645,077 (36%) 1,371,592,861 (29%) 1,602,678,229 (34%)
Last week RP 42,831,028 (40%) 23,458,989 (22%) 41,676,389 (39%)

this tells me that mids do ass well as albs, with less people and that the hibs ... deserve their minority realm bonuses.

saying mids can`t take on the alb numbers face to face is just not true according to me.

 

[Solarius]

/salute Solarius!!! One of few Hibs that even after getting beat wants to keep playing.

Hehe the only reason I'm continuing is because even in OF it was like that. Being a casual gamer, I don't have the artifacts or MLs that are now needed to compete, and Infs hit hard even when Mids had all three relics.

Fact is, regardless of who has relics, for most players it'll mean very little, as relics are just icing to the powergamers, fully ToA'd and buffbotted.

Hell, I have my own buffbot, just on the same account as my shade, so Maise usually goes out with just basebuffs from my warden anyway

The casual/powergamer gulf has always been there, who has the relics means nothing to that.

 

[noaim]

Personaly never gave a f about the relics and the only reason grv ran with fg in mid frontier was that noaim cries so much if we dont

Just get on irc instead of postfarming you leet-prick-twat.

 

[Emergency Roma]

Funny, Mids will run to WoW and claim they lost due to beeing outnumberd. Sad realy that instead of leaving with a high flag, they will limp to WoW with it up their arse. Mids/Hibs had such "l33t" groups running with voice progs and radar for such a long time. Beeing ingnorant to all players including their own realm mates. Truly "pwning" with alarm raids and such...
Now tho the "roleplay" realm that always came out 2nd best due to slower comunication with usage of different forms of guild/chat groups... Have triumphed by beeing far superior in handling a large number of players due to "unleet" comunication habits.
Its tough not beeing able to play with more then 8 players at the time isnt it.
And were are the "l33t" Mid/hib guilds now ?
Hiding under a rock claiming NF sucks ?

Have fun in wow, and hope there will be another "better" mmorpg out by the time people fuck you over in WoW aswell.
And sience you claim you cant play without the Relics, and the odds of seeing you gather up the knowhow to reclaim them...

I guess this i goodbye, sayonara motherfuckers.

.....poor boy ......

 

[noaim]

And were are the "l33t" Mid/hib guilds now ?

Those that is still here are mostly trying to find eachother, and in the meantime farming people like you.

 

[Danya]

The only thing hibs organise is how to come round the loosing side from behind and swoop down like vultures after a mass fight. Well now you have more to worry about, thanx to your efforts helping the albs take keep after keep in our frontier they now have the relic bonus. Well done pat on the back and please do /quit. Ive said it before, ill say it again, the 2 underdog realms shoudl work against the albs, but no, you just swan round picking up their offal.

Actually I wanted hibs to go take some alb keeps, but people didn't seem interested in that.

 

[Aussie]

Actually I wanted hibs to go take some alb keeps, but people didn't seem interested in that.

aye attack some alb towers with 30 casters and 1 bard. much better

 

[Runolas]

A lot of qq in this post. Gratz albs we Mids got owerrun in primetime. End of story.

Only way to break Albion dominiace is for Hibs and Mids to "work more together", but I'll guess they rathere cry about it - sad imho.

...and Stabz FUCK your dmgoutput 454 mainhand is too much for my sorry ass to handle

 

[poky]

Mids/Hibs had such "l33t" groups running with voice progs and radar for such a long time. Beeing ingnorant to all players including their own realm mates. Truly "pwning" with alarm raids and such...

The absence of "gankgroups" was not what decided the outcome of this relicraid. I dont know if any good rvrguild (or any guild at all) has ever claimed to "pwn" cus of any AC raid.

Now tho the "roleplay" realm that always came out 2nd best due to slower comunication with usage of different forms of guild/chat groups... Have triumphed by beeing far superior in handling a large number of players due to "unleet" comunication habits.

I pretty much doubt that the usage of voicecom programs in guildgroups has affected the handling of large numers of people in any way

Its tough not beeing able to play with more then 8 players at the time isnt it.

It is alot harder to play well as a fg.

And were are the "l33t" Mid/hib guilds now ?
Hiding under a rock claiming NF sucks ?

I assume you haven't rvred much so I will explain this.. Most good hibplayers quit in the middle of toa (late .68 patch if I remember correctly) due to mid being overpowered and general boredom(or so I assume). There are quite a few fgs out, however they generally dont want anything to do with zergs and thus try to avoid them.

And sience you claim you cant play without the Relics

I have never heard anyone claiming that, infact alot of mids are happy that the relics are gone so the fucking zerging stop.

I know I am

 

[Raven]

A lot of qq in this post. Gratz albs we Mids got owerrun in primetime. End of story.

Only way to break Albion dominiace is for Hibs and Mids to "work more together", but I'll guess they rathere cry about it - sad imho.

...and Stabz FUCK your dmgoutput 454 mainhand is too much for my sorry ass to handle

you mean the way the mids farmed the hibs that were inc to help?

 

[tookha]

how many albs rvred w/o relics ? Oo

500-600?

 

[Light]

500-600?

and that was just the stealthers at mtk!!

 

[Solarius]

you mean the way the mids farmed the hibs that were inc to help?

Aye, that was a sorry sight! Can't blame the mids really, they probably thought the Hibs were trying to nick the power relic the same way they nicked our str relic

I just wonder how many mids will decide to "help" the Albs to their 6th relic, or how many will try to stem the albion hoards.

 

[Nemo]

Grattis, , , , , , , ,


(I really hate the scoutrange)

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Underdogs?

Hib yes, Mid and Alb numbers are comparable. Mids aren't underdogs - complacent, disorganised, living in the past = all yes. But in no way, shape or form are you underdogs. You had more bodies in ygg to defend the relic than the albs had attacking - you were just out manouvered.

Gone is the day when the biggest alarmclock wins - Ardamel: its time to retire.

Little you know, and what bollock you talk. Firstly, the ratio of albs to mids is far far greater. Last night for example, i checked, to find 427 mids, and 612 albs online..do the maths sonny. Living int he past, dont seem you have caught up yet either.

No you didnt outmanouver us at all, just out gun us.

As for alarm clock raids, well get a new record, or well be here all night recollecting all the ones weve all done, get over it.

 

[vintervargen]

I bet it was jolly fun to be the realm on top when you had power relics for 1 year+, but now all of the sudden when the tide turned it's just baby-cries and whine. You certainly had nothing to complain about when hibs had the pow-relics, so I guess you are the kind of boy who think all is ok when things are to YOUR favour and when that advantage turn you don't have enough spine or sense of sport to try fight back - you just feel irritated. Quit the game is my advice, when something supposed to be fun leads to negative feelings you know you took a wrong turn somewhere.

Simple little hipocrit..

look here mister alb.

there are 2 different things now; pre-NF, and NF.

pre-NF albs had a HUGE disadvantage in not having any relics. the top alb groups still had quite a bit success however, mostly because of the class known as theurgist.

and now all the bad boys, meanie hib and mid elitists running GGs farming warders!!!.. have QUIT. so if you want revenge, you'd better go and visit them all IRL, so that you can shout 'TAKE THAT OVERPOWERED NOOB' in their faces.

however, this is NF

most hibs that are rvr'ing now, are the ones that were least active in emain pre-NF. casual gamers who occasionally went odin's to try out their class. these are the people now involved in rvr. these people are mostly low-RR, and unexperienced to the other realms capacitys in rvr. these are the people that will get overwhelmed and zerged to bits by 3x albs with all relics. does that makes you feel good? do you feel skilled? paybacktime?

stupid people who cant see the whole picture. stop playing and go read a book.

 

[Yaemon]

You cannot really blame the albs. The have a bigger population that wants to rvr and they all go where the action is. Mythic has turned this game into a more-numbers-wins game. In OF people could usually avoid the amg-zerg but now you are forced to face it because all action is concentrated around keep-warfare.

I can understand the Idea of making NF. RvR needed a change after being the same old thing since release, some people like large scale battles but for those who don't there is no option anymore, no way to continue having fun in this game. Its either join a zerg or dont play at all.. or go with your fg and die.

I dont think the increasing number of /quit threads these last weeks is because the "removal of GP" or any other change in the game mechanics. NF turned Daoc into a completely new game, and now the fun you can have in this game depends on how many players your realm has.

 

[Treyguard]

Grats


I agree with Solarius. In the grand scheme of things I don't really care about or am affected the gain or loss of relics. Yes I'd rather keep ours and gain yours, but really, come on, it's not like their loss means the worls will end.

Even better, with the loss of our relics, maybe the constant CTA whine can stop - CTA is nice but it kind of looses it's shine after the umpteenth time I have to deal with or watch someone else deal with some mindless goon in /as or via pm etc who's demanding to know why I'm not jumping when they fart. Usually the very same people who insist on not listening in the /bg, whining constantly, running solo, pissing about, giving orders then immediately spamming them off the screen with whine and generally asking to be taken out and shot

Hmmm venting here, oh well.
Aaaaanyway, grats to albs, BUT you may have shown organisational skills and outnumbered us but I feel that when push comes to shove midgard is still better at hari kiri than albion