Sock Drawer
Fledgling Freddie
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Well, just a few more comments...
Firstly, and most importantly, like I said I'm not active in DAoC anymore. I hung that cloak up a good few months back and so can not directly do ANYTHING about it in game - unless someone wants to pay my sub, then I'll come back in and sort it out.
Secondly, I've said before, and I'll say again - NO ONE in CT condones what he did - NO ONE. We all thing it was a fucking low and shitty thing to do, in fact probably one of the worse, but there we are.
Thirdly, I take on everything Flim said but I'm unsure where this nicking crafted items etc comes from. Perhaps I'm not really in a position to be arguing a case for CT as I've been out of the loop for some time but while I was at the helm I never heard any real stories of us doing any griefing to anyone. In fact, Liam did do something before, and was promptly kicked out the guild in an instant by Washington (so maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge). Yes he was re-admitted, but CT is more of a democracy with many leaders at the helm, and for this reason we are more of a government than a guild. All leaders talk, all leaders listen - if the votes are cast in one favour, that motion stands. In addition to that point, sorry for putting words in your mouth, but i was sure I read it somewhere. It's been quite some time I think you'll find since CT (or the majority of them) set out to deliberately grief someone - in fact I think it's been over a year - maybe longer.
About CT going to strength... 3-6 months ago we were known as a good stealth guild, we had a lot of members, and a lot of people were constantly asking for guild invite or group invites. We'd easily take anyone who was a stealther, including quite a few low levellers, to even help them learn the game, work on their infils etc. We played FOR the realm, helping out whenever we could with whatever characters we had, and we did have a certain degree of respect - maybe not in some peoples circles but we did have in others. After a while though, numbers dwindle as people move on, the game becomes less of a focus and then something happens to bring CT back into the bad press again like this. It takes 10 good things to erase every 1 bad thing... I guess we just got a lot of bad things
My final wrap up if you like, or like Jerry Springer would say... "you married your fucking sister who's really your DAD?!" is simply to say that as a guild Chaos Theory does not support what has happened. The decision has been taken to not remove him from the guild, maybe because we are the ones who MIGHT be able to keep him slightly under more control than if he was let loose. Liam was promoted to GM of Chaos Theory not so long back because he'd been really good to members of the guild. After this stunt, he has been asked to stand down as GM - he did, he was then asked to leave the guild, which he did without question... he has however been reinstated within the guild as a basic recruit... because as a GM he could have told us to go fuck ourselves and kept CT, but he didn't - that to me shows a bit of respect to some people - so it is in there.
Where there's muck there's brass lol, you just gotta polish it a lot.
As for the community, everyone knows I'm a team player and people will know me as not only Sock, but also Amothus / Amotus and Coat Hanger - and I've played with a lot of people, and been well liked and well received by all, always doing what I can to help.... it's just that sometimes situations are more grey than the black and white a lot of you see them in.
Hope you all enjoy playing Cam still
Firstly, and most importantly, like I said I'm not active in DAoC anymore. I hung that cloak up a good few months back and so can not directly do ANYTHING about it in game - unless someone wants to pay my sub, then I'll come back in and sort it out.
Secondly, I've said before, and I'll say again - NO ONE in CT condones what he did - NO ONE. We all thing it was a fucking low and shitty thing to do, in fact probably one of the worse, but there we are.
Thirdly, I take on everything Flim said but I'm unsure where this nicking crafted items etc comes from. Perhaps I'm not really in a position to be arguing a case for CT as I've been out of the loop for some time but while I was at the helm I never heard any real stories of us doing any griefing to anyone. In fact, Liam did do something before, and was promptly kicked out the guild in an instant by Washington (so maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge). Yes he was re-admitted, but CT is more of a democracy with many leaders at the helm, and for this reason we are more of a government than a guild. All leaders talk, all leaders listen - if the votes are cast in one favour, that motion stands. In addition to that point, sorry for putting words in your mouth, but i was sure I read it somewhere. It's been quite some time I think you'll find since CT (or the majority of them) set out to deliberately grief someone - in fact I think it's been over a year - maybe longer.
About CT going to strength... 3-6 months ago we were known as a good stealth guild, we had a lot of members, and a lot of people were constantly asking for guild invite or group invites. We'd easily take anyone who was a stealther, including quite a few low levellers, to even help them learn the game, work on their infils etc. We played FOR the realm, helping out whenever we could with whatever characters we had, and we did have a certain degree of respect - maybe not in some peoples circles but we did have in others. After a while though, numbers dwindle as people move on, the game becomes less of a focus and then something happens to bring CT back into the bad press again like this. It takes 10 good things to erase every 1 bad thing... I guess we just got a lot of bad things
My final wrap up if you like, or like Jerry Springer would say... "you married your fucking sister who's really your DAD?!" is simply to say that as a guild Chaos Theory does not support what has happened. The decision has been taken to not remove him from the guild, maybe because we are the ones who MIGHT be able to keep him slightly under more control than if he was let loose. Liam was promoted to GM of Chaos Theory not so long back because he'd been really good to members of the guild. After this stunt, he has been asked to stand down as GM - he did, he was then asked to leave the guild, which he did without question... he has however been reinstated within the guild as a basic recruit... because as a GM he could have told us to go fuck ourselves and kept CT, but he didn't - that to me shows a bit of respect to some people - so it is in there.
Where there's muck there's brass lol, you just gotta polish it a lot.
As for the community, everyone knows I'm a team player and people will know me as not only Sock, but also Amothus / Amotus and Coat Hanger - and I've played with a lot of people, and been well liked and well received by all, always doing what I can to help.... it's just that sometimes situations are more grey than the black and white a lot of you see them in.
Hope you all enjoy playing Cam still
Hit me with your worst I love it 
CT are alrite guys ... jarvio is a funny chap - sure things he do at times are abit wrong but no where in COC does it say he cant do it ? hes just bendin the rules really .. and oh yer u may say its a unwriten rule well you never do actually have to read them do you ? 
i hope the people that do know me will maybe wake up nd see wat im tryin to say oh and beeks ... I <3 U 
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