2H or Pole?

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So if I were respeccing from s/s which should I pick?

2H slash > Pole Slash? or Pole Slash > 2H slash ?

Given the patch tweaks coming next patch :-

Albion Polearm

- Disabler has been changed to medium to-hit and now chains off of Defender's Cross.

- Poleaxe has been changed to chain off of Defender's Rage and now has a high to-hit bonus.

- Defender's Revenge has been changed to medium fatigue and chain off of Phalanx. Additionally, the damage has been lowered.


Albion 2handed

- Doubler has been changed to a rear positional, medium damage snare style.

- Sun and Moon has been changed to a high damage 7s stun style that chains off of doubler.

- Bone Breaker has been changed to a bleed that chains off of Bone Splitter.

Does this make any difference?

Thanks for your help

 

[old.Bubble]

that doubler combo looks nice

You'd really have to test the damage tbh

 

[Graknak]

buy a full respec of me and try both xD

no but serious, pole does more dmg overall and has better to-hit styles, afaik theres only 1 high to hit style in 2h and it's a positional style :/

 

[Wermin]

Ive been s/s, 2-h and pole, pole is 100 times better then 2-h spec tbh

 

[-Lotheric-]

If you plan on taking your Armsman into the frontiers, spec Thrust and Polearm and get yourself a 5.7 spd Exceptional Partisan after patch 1.64. That will be the optimal way to spec a RvR Armsman. If I was about to try 2-handed in 1.64 I would try Crush over Thrust though for slower weapons and higher weapon skill.

If you don't plan on doing RvR, stay sword/shield for PvE imo.

 

[louder]

But nothing looks as good as 2H Slash weapon

Guess it just depends on what u want to "be" with your char then....

If it is just for damage do pole....

As 2H Arms u look cool^^ and u'll be somewhat extraordinary (some would even say extraterrestrial^^)

 

[mabs0r]

Originally posted by louder
But nothing looks as good as 2H Slash weapon

apart from slash polearms

 

[old.GeForce]

I respecced armsman to 2h... was only hitting for half of what pole was hitting for, and the styles just didn't work, so I respecced back asap. one word I'd use to describe it would be 'avoid'

as for the changes in 1.64, I might even consider full S/S

 

[old.mattshanes]

If you be 2h thrust.... disease has 25% less effectiveness on your weaponskill xD and it has a 7s stun doesn't it?

Maybe get someone to test for you on gorre and ask for damage logs if they can.

But i would stay pole armsman if i was one.

 

[bulge]

Thanks for the replies, looks like its pole as I thought

Got a stone as well so will try slash first then maybe try thrust ...

 

[old.mattshanes]

50/50/28 crush pole spec in 1.65 can be interesting with that 6s anytime 1h stun, use it then switch to pole without being a hybrid (remember you get no delay when switching from a shield to hit with pole, i am not sure about 1h weapons though)

 

[Yussef]

Pretty sure 2h Thrust is 100% Str too, heard reports that Dex buffs was not effecting Weaponskill.

Also, the Dragon Polearm is Thrust and 5.9spd!

 

[liste]

2h thrust is 75/25 afaik

 

[Shike]

Originally posted by liste
2h thrust is 75/25 afaik

according to an old grab-bag it is, rest of 2h is 100% str, and all poles are 100% str.

 

[[Oo]Escape]

- Doubler has been changed to a rear positional, medium damage snare style.

- Sun and Moon has been changed to a high damage 7s stun style that chains off of doubler.

You won't need PF with that combo...


imo Armsmen are best as s/s slam tanks, if you want to be be an /assist damage-tank roll a merc


If I cba, I'll roll an Ogre s/s armsman Oo

 

[hrodelbert]

s/s fortehwin :hat:

 

[vindicat0r]

Originally posted by liste
2h thrust is 75/25 afaik

2h Thrust is 100% str.

Depends on play style

Pole For Frontload ..... --------- 2h For Stlyes

That used to be the arguement but with style review's there both rewarding.

Pole has an anytime Snare

2h has a Rear snare

Pole has a 9s stun from 2nd move in Rear Chain

2h has a 7s stun from 2nd move in Rear Chain


If you actually cap qui then 2h would be the way to go but for max frontload get a sidi pole slash/Thrust or 6s crafted Crush Pole and 0 qui + Highlander : p < Half-Ogre when u can >

It's all about Play Style

 

[Diddyman]

Hi

I was 2h Paladin for 50 lvl and then in RvR.

2h slash did not offer that much extra damage over 1hs, when i respeced to S&S I was amazed that the damage I did was almost the same as 2H over the same combat time.

The main problem with 2H is that there in no good anytime style with High Damage and High bonus to hit...

Too many of the 2H styles has Low bonus to hit...

I think all the 2H styles would have to be re-worked for 2h to become viable.

Diddy

 

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Originally posted by hrodelbert
s/s fortehwin :hat:

Gonna have both (see below)

Thanks for all the replies again