Politics 2024/25 General Election Voting Intention (2022)

[Gwadien]

I mean, if you want to play the AI game...

Clacton has one of the highest rates of Personal Independence Payment (PIP) claimants in the UK, with approximately 9,627 residents receiving the benefit. This constitutes 18% of Clacton's working-age population, a rate that is more than double the national average.

'DEY TOOK ER JERBS' is not the message of Reform, it's 'Get rid of migrants, restore this fabled 'British culture' and everything will be perfect again.' Which actually translates to we'll make a tiny Government, be really nice to the wealthy, treat non-white people like absolute shit, and then when people realise that it's not fixing the shit situation of their lives we'll oppress the non-white people further and further. (The non-white part is intentional rather than migrants, because it's inevitable that Reform would eventually go for remigration.)

You would think they would vote for Labour, because they honestly can't believe that Reform would be mean to them - there's a guy on social media (forget his name) who dresses up in a full union flag suit and interviews people mainly in Reform voting areas, telling them well known information about Farage (such as the £5m thing) and their response is 'omg really?' and they're usually receptive of him because he's wearing a union flag suit.

It's almost the same reason why the Government feels like they need to remind people not to set fires when it's really dry...

 

[Scouse]

Actually, if you're bringing up Clacton, rather than looking at who votes reform, then you should read my post again - because Clacton is made up of the people described by my post.

The benefit claimants in clacton (the less than 1 in 5) probably all voted for Binface. Labour didn't stand...

 

[Gwadien]

Fascinating take.

In the Great Yarmouth constituency, approximately 9,376 to 9,800 people receive Personal Independence Payments (PIP). This equates to roughly 160.6 claimants per 1,000 working-age adults, giving Great Yarmouth one of the highest rates of PIP claimants per capita in England and Wales.

There are approximately 11,400 people claiming Personal Independence Payment (PIP) in the Ashfield district. Local data shows that roughly 13.3% of the working-age population in the area receives disability benefits like PIP or health-related employment support. [1, 2]

Boston local authority area, there are approximately 5,171 Personal Independence Payment (PIP) claims recorded. For the wider parliamentary constituency of Boston and Skegness, local economic and welfare profiles estimate roughly 4,280+ active entitlement caseloads, with the area noted as having a high proportion of claimants relying on health and disability support. [1, 2, 3]

Approximately 15% of the working-age population in the Runcorn and Helsby constituency receive a Personal Independence Payment (PIP). While the Department for Work and Pensions does not publish a live, fixed head-count for every individual parliamentary seat in real time, local data highlights an unusually high concentration of claimants in parts of the area. [1, 2]

 

[BloodOmen]

Reform proposes £50bn welfare bill cut with changes to disability payments system Pip

The party's proposed changes were they to come to power include a replacement for the disability payments system Pip.

www.bbc.co.uk

... voting for Christmas..

The current benefits (only benefits) bill is about £104billion (that's general benefits like PIP and Housing Benefits), i'd love to know where these fantasy economics where cutting £50billion seems feasible/humane are coming from, I think Jenrick has pulled them out of his arse.

The Conservatives tried this and what happened? thousands of people ended up dying because they couldn't afford electricity/gas and ended up dying from cold etc and/or were so mentally ill, they took their own lives because of the pressure dropped on them.

 

[Scouse]

Fascinating take.

Where as your list of the numbers of people on benefits in different areas says what, exactly?

It appears to just be a list and says nothing? The people in those places that vote reform aren't the benefit claimants.

 

[Raven]

Stupid people do stupid things, and getting bogged down by their pointless little outrages is holding humanity back.

Remove the vote from stupid people.

Edit, also, lying as an MP or prospective MP should be a criminal offence, with hefty prison time attached to it.

 

[Scouse]

The current benefits (only benefits) bill is about £104billion

As stated previously - the current UK benefits bill is £334bn.

 

[Gwadien]

As stated previously - the current UK benefits bill is £334bn.

55% of which is pensioners...

 

[Scouse]

55% of which is pensioners...

42% of the bill is pensions. There are pensioners who qualify for other benefits.

So a few questions:

1) Which of their pension or their "other benefits" do you want to take off the pensioners?
2) If it's pensions, how do you justify that morally because to qualify for state pension you have to pay national insurance for 30 years. They feel that they've "paid in" - and are getting £12k p/a at the end of their working life (from 67 years old).
3) If it's "other benefits" - then do you also take those benefits from other qualifying people? Because if they qualify, they qualify.

There seems to be a lot of anti pension stuff going on at the moment. Should people work till they drop?


Edit: One more question - teachers get gold plated pensions. The also qualify for the state pension. Do you think you should not qualify for the state pension? Happy to give that up because you're already going to be rolling in it?

 

[Scouse]

A certain type of person doesn't seem to want to look at the growing disability benefits bill (the second largest) which is growing rapidly and amongst working age young as a particular demographic (18-34 years old) -when previously they'd have to suck it up and work.

But suck it up and work they did - they didn't appear in the figures because they remained in work despite their health problems.

 

[BloodOmen]

As stated previously - the current UK benefits bill is £334bn.

That's with pensions etc, pensions take up the majority of the welfare bill, I was only talking about things like pip/housing benefit etc, which is what Jenrick likely has in his crosshairs.

 

[Scouse]

Pension takes up a very substantial amount but less than half - and all that is addressed in my questions to @Gwadien above m8.

 

[BloodOmen]

Pension takes up a very substantial amount but less than half - and all that is addressed in my questions to @Gwadien above m8.

It's roughly half either way, DWP measure it at £171.7 (55.1%) billion where as OBR measures it at £161.2 billion (48.4%)

 

[caLLous]