Politics 2024/25 General Election Voting Intention (2022)

Who do you currently intend to vote for in the next UK general election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Labour

    Votes: 14 60.9%
  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • DUP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Green

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
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Deebs

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They are winning lots of councils...the problem with that is that they are getting found out at council level.

Fuck all is changing, the roads are some of the worst in the country, and they put the tax up well over inflation, not to mention the garden waste bin is now £69 (nice) a year (was £45)

Made a local gammon rage when I pointed out that he voted for them, and they did indeed promise to lower taxes.
Have to add my penneth to the state of the fucking roads, round here it is like driving through the streets of Tehran, more holes than flat surface.
 

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I stand by that.

"Free" - but only if you're following an "allowed" narrative. Our society is defined by leftist intolerance.

Edit: Hence the existence of multiple articles like this.

The misappropriation of terminology is hilarious.

First it was neo-liberal now it's neo-marxist.

Sound loads like that bloke in America you definitely don't like.
 

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The misappropriation of terminology is hilarious.
Yes. It's definitely just a made up thing rather than an appropriate term used to discuss sociological makeups of societies (amongst other things).


Can I ask why, since you've become a teacher (and in a rather extraordinary volte-face), have you become anti-intellectual?

You were happily buried in those sorts of questions, these sorts of arguments, as a younger man.
 

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I just think it's funny you actually believe that Keir Starmer is a Neo-Marxist.

I don't engage in debate in it because it's fucking stupid.
 

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Just to let you know Neo-Marxist thinking is absolutely alive and well in our political establishment. For example - Ralph Miliband is a quite famous neo-Marxist. And considering his son is being talked about, openly (in the guardian for example) as the current "real PM" then perhaps we should be taking this discussion seriously, rather than glibly dismissing it.
 

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I just think it's funny you actually believe that Keir Starmer is a Neo-Marxist
Not Keir. Definitely not Keir.

(He was Trotskyist as a kid, btw.)

I don't engage in debate in it because it's fucking stupid.
Or you're one, and don't like to draw attention to it? Like neo marxism is quietly doing, has been quietly doing since the 1960's? Part of it's method of operating being along the lines of "the smartest thing the devil did was convincing people he doesn't exist".

The thing about neo marxism is that it's easily defeated when people understand what it means in their day-to-day actual lives. They push back, hard.

So it's political proponents do everything they can to disguise it, to deny it, to cherry pick motives that are easy to swallow.

I consider neo marxism to be an enemy of liberty.


Edit: Anyway, thanks for signposting your anti-intellectualism. First you deny it's a thing (and call me Trumpist for good measure), then you admit it exists but say debate is "stupid".

Nailed on.
 
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They are winning lots of councils...the problem with that is that they are getting found out at council level.

Fuck all is changing, the roads are some of the worst in the country, and they put the tax up well over inflation, not to mention the garden waste bin is now £69 (nice) a year (was £45)

Made a local gammon rage when I pointed out that he voted for them, and they did indeed promise to lower taxes.

Sort of like:

 

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We've got our local elections on the 7th of May and I have no idea who to vote for.

I live in the most middle class white area in Sussex and I know everyone will vote Blue.

Urgh.
 

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What a profoundly dishonest, stupid idiot she is. I wonder what her family think of her.
 

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As this seems to be the UK politics thread...Going day drinking with my wife, my sister and her old man, and others, going to be interesting "people watching" last time it was a shithole, I am sure (just shy of) a year of Reform will have improved it. They "eliminated" free parking in the town centre (free in satellite towns) so at least it should be quiet. Place was glad of the booking, they fit 8 with a day's notice, decent place, too.

Edit, the place will probably be dead, with the exception of "dem immigrunts" because they have fuck all else to do. By design, obviously.

Used to have a fantastic, thriving market, sold all sorts, that was until the fucking Tories wasted millions moving it out the way, then spending years faffing about building a new market, just so the few businesses and livelihoods that still exist can return to customers that are not longer there.
 
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Still a shithole, market decimated, felt like a tourist attraction, without the tourists. Lunch was fantastic, ended up in spoons...

Zapato 8/10
The Shipmans 9/10
Spoons (drinking spoons, not eating) 8/10
Northampton 2/10
 

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Fucking crazy that the authorities had been all over him for a number of years, that he'd attacked people in school (broke some kids wrist with a hockey stick) and been caught with knives on him more than once, that he'd been referred to prevent three times and that he'd told the po-po that he was thinking of knifing someone or maybe using poison.

I'd deport the authorities tbh. And the MP's who setup the overly complex systems that failed utterly.

What is it you find crazy? You're not a big Rupert Lowe fan are ya? :)
 

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Not a fan of Lowe myself but he is helping divide the vote from Reform so he's a useful idiot at this point. Hopefully he keeps restore Britain going to further siphon off Reform Voters.
 

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Fucking crazy that the authorities had been all over him for a number of years, that he'd attacked people in school (broke some kids wrist with a hockey stick) and been caught with knives on him more than once, that he'd been referred to prevent three times and that he'd told the po-po that he was thinking of knifing someone or maybe using poison.

I'd deport the authorities tbh. And the MP's who setup the overly complex systems that failed utterly.

What is it you find crazy? You're not a big Rupert Lowe fan are ya? :)

Funding... Probably public information now, but I bet he was on a waiting list or two.

Deporting the parents over a crime of their child? lil bit fascisty?

Not a fan of Lowe myself but he is helping divide the vote from Reform so he's a useful idiot at this point. Hopefully he keeps restore Britain going to further siphon off Reform Voters.

I'm glad you posted this as I was writing my response!

No, this isn't good, if Restore Britain polls relatively low it'll be good, but if it turns out they're pretty popular Reform will have to try to outflank them by going harder to the right.

Happens quite often - French Revolution shiz.
 

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Deporting the parents over a crime of their child? lil bit fascisty?
If we can lock up the boyfriends of girls that have committed suicide and lock up a man for letting his girlfriend try to climb a mountain...
 

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Too late to edit: they were fully aware he was amassing an arsenal. But yep, I'm actually with you @Gwadien.
 

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Not even remotely similar lol
Finding people culpable for stuff they didn't do?

In both those cases neither (found guilty) defendant were aware that their son had amassed wespons and had multiple previous actual violent conduct issues and had expressed a desire to kill.

Like I said - I don't think we should deport them. But what they chose lead to multiple deaths and multiple serious injuries.

It's a dark legal road we're going down but don't be so intellectually dishonest as to dismiss the obvious (and arguably much worse) parallels.
 

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Funding... Probably public information now, but I bet he was on a waiting list or two.

Deporting the parents over a crime of their child? lil bit fascisty?



I'm glad you posted this as I was writing my response!

No, this isn't good, if Restore Britain polls relatively low it'll be good, but if it turns out they're pretty popular Reform will have to try to outflank them by going harder to the right.

Happens quite often - French Revolution shiz.

mmmm, I agree with that. Reform are the immediate threat though, keep Reform out of #10 is priority #1

As for the two parties in general

Farage is basically a wannabe Donald Trump, he'd be just as disastrous for us as Trump is for them - he'd fuck the NHS by selling it off to US companies, he'd open up fracking and drilling to US companies and he'd take us as far away from Europe as he could.... and that's before he completely fucks everyone over by removing us from the Court of Human Rights

Lowe, while I do think he's more intelligent than Farage, his super hard right views are disgusting quite frankly... I'm not against controlled migration but what Lowe is proposing is ripping out family roots that have been here for decades, just a complete sweep, I'd even go as far as saying it'd be worse than ICE if Lowe got his own way


I can't stand Zack Polanski but if I have to tactically vote for them to keep Reform or Lowe out I'd do it in a heartbeat.
 

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Actually, I've not bothered posting about Labour's authoritarian reverse of Brexit via secondary legislation, or the fact that they've locked up another 500 people for (very, idylically) peaceful protest.

But if you're worried about us being removed from the European Court of Human Rights (which we all know I am) then you should be more worried about Labour's removal of trial by jury.

The loss of trial by jury is much more impactful than the theoretical removal from rights conventions. So really - the number 1 thing you need to be thinking about is the ejection of Labour.

Then, and only then, should you be worrying about the asshat Farage.
 

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