Politics 2024/25 General Election Voting Intention (2022)

Who do you currently intend to vote for in the next UK general election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Labour

    Votes: 14 60.9%
  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • DUP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Green

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
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Scouse

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So?

She admitted she knew she needed a licence. She didn't check she had one. Do you think Nottingham council would let the people they fined off for their responsibilities?

Ignorance of the law is no excuse for us. Neither is forgetfulness (or incompetence). What else is she forgetting?

On the plus side, her tenant can claim the last 12 months rent back. So hopefully that'll cost her 40 grand.
 

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I'd rather they banned lead in gunshot, mercury in amalgam, the majority of single use plastics, unnecessary building on green belt, sewage discharges into rivers, all of the really nasty chemicals we use that the EU has banned since we Brexited but we've not bothered with...

...you know. Something really useful, rather than playing to the public by kicking rich people (who are going to ignore it anyway) and doing absolutely nothing useful.

Whilst I welcome it, I'd much rather a government who wasn't just a massive pile of cunts.
 

Raven

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Dickheads hunting stuff on horseback should be stripped naked, given a 2-minute head start, and then hunted by dogs.
 

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I'd rather they banned lead in gunshot, mercury in amalgam, the majority of single use plastics, unnecessary building on green belt, sewage discharges into rivers, all of the really nasty chemicals we use that the EU has banned since we Brexited but we've not bothered with...

...you know. Something really useful, rather than playing to the public by kicking rich people (who are going to ignore it anyway) and doing absolutely nothing useful.

Whilst I welcome it, I'd much rather a government who wasn't just a massive pile of cunts.

They already are banning lead for air shooting (2026ish) I have about 200k pellets stocked up, ready to sell on once it comes in.

Not intentional, but I have bought and sold a few rifles over the years, and some do better in different rifles.

People actually hunt out pellets by factory die, because they suit the rifle better. I had some super rare old ones, sold them for (relatively) loads.
 

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Anyone know why FH looks like this to me? Been like it for a week.

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In FF it is web developer tools (and we should take it to random annoying thread please)

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They already are banning lead for air shooting (2026ish) I have about 200k pellets stocked up, ready to sell on once it comes in.
That makes me sad. You're profiteering by poisoning :(
 

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That makes me sad. You're profiteering by poisoning :(
I will get on the phone to the armies of the world and tell them they have to stop using their lead bullets. At least wars will be safer when we charge with bayonets and pitchforks.
 

Scouse

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I will get on the phone to the armies of the world and tell them they have to stop using their lead bullets. At least wars will be safer when we charge with bayonets and pitchforks.
We use depleted uranium ammo. Causing cancer wherever we go to war.

But I have noticed something Deebs - you seem to point at something, somewhere else that is worse, as if it means we shouldn't bother fixing the easy things. Lead in shotgun pellets could have been banned ages ago.

We're banning fox hunting - but lead in shotguns is a much bigger problem.
 

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We use depleted uranium ammo. Causing cancer wherever we go to war.

But I have noticed something Deebs - you seem to point at something, somewhere else that is worse, as if it means we shouldn't bother fixing the easy things. Lead in shotgun pellets could have been banned ages ago.

We're banning fox hunting - but lead in shotguns is a much bigger problem.
I am pointing at something which is much worse. Take your lead in hunting rounds vs lead in military rounds. Around the world which one causes more lead pollution? I will give you a clue it is not the hunting rounds.

Banning those is the same as banning farting in public and will cost untold amounts of wasted funding/protesting which can go on better things. Don't get me wrong I am all for it but only if it can be implemented very quickly and efficiently. Something we cannot do for the simplest of things and goes on to cost the taxpayer huge amounts of money which could be used in more urgent areas.

I remember the issues in the past when we tried to ban fox hunting and I was on the side of those who want to ban this barbaric sport.
 

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Banning those is the same as banning farting in public
No. It's a huge problem. Between 8 and 13,000 tonnes of lead shot are sprayed over our countryside every year. Up to 100,000 water birds die every year (up to 3% of the population) because of lead poisoning - and that's just the ones that die, not the multiples more that are made ill because of it.

Lead not only poisons the waterways and animals that are near - it poisons the animals that ingest the shot animals. Raptors and scavenger species fall ill, and their progeny are affected.

This includes humans - butchers can't remove the micro fragments of lead from deer - so it ends up in the human food chain too. And lead poisoning goes from parent to child, with serious consequences.

And it's easy to fix - we've copper and steel shot, rounds etc. It's been done elsewhere. All we have to do is pass the law that makes it's continued production, sale and use a criminal offence. And all the scummy wanker businesses that still produce it take a hit - but all the businesses that produce the safer alternatives get a boost.

It's a simple, easy, no-brainer solution to a longstanding serious problem.

But our supposedly environmentally friendly Labour government is hell bent on handing over our digital ID's to romanian cybercriminals than protecting our health and the health of our environment.
 

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I am pointing at something which is much worse.
But yeah - that in itself is something that you need to think about.

If I take a very extreme example to illustrate why - it's like saying don't bother fixing rape, because people are getting murdered and we should fix murder instead because murder is much worse...
 

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So you're saying that Labour should fix everything, if they don't you're not satisfied?

We live in a democracy, acknowledge the flaws of it - things seem simple fixes to us but they're clearly not, due to vested interests.

Fox hunting is ez because it pleases some lefties and they're losing literally 0 votes. It sucks, but that's the game they're playing.

Hoping to see some change with the new deputy leader - she made a speech saying Labour need to be more... radical?
 

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Fox hunting is ez because it pleases some lefties and they're losing literally 0 votes. It sucks, but that's the game they're playing.
Yep. They're playing a game. Got power, making massive changes in the background that entrench a certain way of doing things that will persist for the next 30 years regardless of whether Labour ever get voted in again.

All non-manifesto, not voted for.

And rather than govern - doing the right thing for the country and the people - they lie and play games.

I want government. I want our elected representatives to do the things - especially the really easy things (and this is one of the easiest) - that we all need them to do.

This shower of shit are quite rationally arguably making things worse, not better. Like you say - they're playing games, not governing.
 

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But yeah - that in itself is something that you need to think about.

If I take a very extreme example to illustrate why - it's like saying don't bother fixing rape, because people are getting murdered and we should fix murder instead because murder is much worse...
No it fucking does not, rape, murder etc is not the same as fucking lead bullets, your examples are fucking flawed.
 

Scouse

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No it fucking does not, rape, murder etc is not the same as fucking lead bullets, your examples are fucking flawed.
The example was to illustrate that the existence of A (war, in your example, murder in mine) doesn't excuse inaction in other less damaging, but still very serious problems 'B'.

It's not like banning farting. If we can't solve the very serious and very easy to fix lead shot problem then we can't or won't solve the other, harder, stuff. Like plastics.
 

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