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2 PC upgrades

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by Yoshimo, Mar 16, 2005.

  1. Yoshimo

    Yoshimo Fledgling Freddie

    posted this on the camlann section but think i will get more help here:

    Ok i'm thinking of upgrading BOTH of my current pcs, looking at a budget of around 900euros, £600
    PC1:
    Dell-P4 2.8 ghz
    Windows XP
    512ddr (2*256)
    60gbs hd
    Geforce MX440(!!!!!!!!!!!)
    PC2:
    AMD Athlon 1Ghz
    Windows ME
    128 SDRam
    20gbs hd
    Geforce MX200 or something stupid

    upgrades i was thinking of:
    PC1: another 2*256 ddr ram
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=MY-040-CR&NOLOGIN=1
    new graphics card
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=GX-050-LT&NOLOGIN=1


    PC2: new motherboard
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=MB-092-AS&NOLOGIN=1
    new processor
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=CP-053-IN&NOLOGIN=1
    new ram
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=MY-037-CR&NOLOGIN=1
    new hard drive
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=HD-012-WD&NOLOGIN=1
    new graphics card
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=GX-050-LT&NOLOGIN=1
    new operating system
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=OS-001-MS&NOLOGIN=1
    +new fan
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=HS-014-AR&NOLOGIN=1


    If i'm not a complete nub this would make them both roughly the same spec could anyone who knows anything about PC's have a look at the parts i suggested? any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks

    Edit: key points that i'm not sure about are:
    - if Dell systems support 4 ram cards
    - and if so would the ram i have listed here work with the ram (probably different brand already with my Dell
    - if existing sound card/other things on pc 2 will be compatable with new motherboard given how old it is
    - if all the stuff is compatable
    - if anyone in the world would be stupid enough to buy a used MX440 :)
     
  2. Void959

    Void959 Fledgling Freddie

    Well... none of the links work so its kinda hard to say anything useful yet ;)


    EDIT: It seems to be mozilla thats at fault...nvm, works fine with IE
     
  3. chretien

    chretien Fledgling Freddie

    The bits look fine although a couple of things to be aware of.
    1: Overclockers.co.uk are crap for support. I don't know a single person who has a good thing to say about them. They might be cheap but you'll end up tearing your hair out if any of the bits are faulty. My advice is try Aria. Much the same prices and customer service way above anything that OcUK provide.

    2: I remember that Dell machines use non-standard Ram which means you have to buy memory upgrades from them at ludicrous prices (my friend was quoted £400 to take his system from 256MB to 512MB). They may have stopped doing this now but check with them first to find out what kind of ram your model of Dell uses.

    3: Mostly older components will work with newer mobos. Occasionally they don't but it's hard to tell in advance.

    4: No, I don't think anyone wants a MX440. Get with the 21st century man...
     
  4. - English -

    - English - Resident Freddy

    512ddr (2*256)

    I got the 2*256 one and I really wanna upgrade to 1gig ram :)
     
  5. Kicks

    Kicks Fledgling Freddie

    I've found them easy and quick to deal with, never used another company for PC bits since I found OverClockers. I used Aria once and the experience was not pleasant 3 months it took for a refund on a faulty mobo. Had 1 faulty RAM stick with OC and it was sorted FAST.

    I wub um :)

    Incidently, if my memory serves me correctly you are correct about Dell RAM you can buy extra bits but you gotta know exactly what you need.

    Just a thought, have you checked out the bundle deals that OC do for PC2? Covers mobo, processor, cooler/fan and memory and is often cheaper than buying bits separately.
     
  6. Sycho

    Sycho Can't get enough of FH

    I've never had a problem with overclockers, their service is fine.To the original poster, if i were you i would go with:

    Antec case with 380 watt psu=£80 or so
    Athlon 3000 winchester=£90 or so.
    Neo 2 platinum motherboard=£90.
    Geil value 1gb ram=£100.
    Seagate 200gb barracuda=£80.(you could get a 120gb for £50 i think)
    NEC 3500 DvD writer/CD driver=£40.
    Geforce 6600GT 128mb=£130-150.(well even a radeon 9700 pro is fine for today's games, that's around £90)
    Floppy disk=£8.
    Onboard sound= Free with motherboard and 7.1 supported.This onboard sound DOESN'T slow games down like other chipsets have done in the past.

    This set up gives you a perfect games machine for today's titles though it would be around £550-600 each pc.Never the less it would last a good time.
     
  7. Gotrag

    Gotrag Fledgling Freddie

    If only we could give them 2 Platinum rather than 90 quid :p
     
  8. poisono

    poisono Fledgling Freddie

    Remember that OcUK do the bundel of memory, mobo + CPU. Meaning then only a harddrive and case is needed to be bought.

    The Ge Force 6600 GT's are damned nice and reliable :)
     
  9. Yoshimo

    Yoshimo Fledgling Freddie

    yes but if you look carefully you will find that the price difference between the bundles and the componants in the bundles is £0. and most of the componants in the bundles have features that aren't needed. thus, higher prices. and as i did mention its 2 budget upgrades :)
     
  10. Coolan

    Coolan One of Freddy's beloved

    in reply to some of the parts, the reason alot of people have problems with dell, is the older dell machines that used the original p4's also use rd ram, which was discontined shortly after because it was far to expensive and unreliable. yes the 6600gt's are very nice have one myself.
     
  11. Yoshimo

    Yoshimo Fledgling Freddie

    hmmmmmmmm dell gave me this info about PC1, why do i suddenly feel screwed?:

    Memory

    System memory
    DIMM: 256 Mb SDRAM
    DIMM: 256 Mb SDRAM
    DIMM
    DIMM

    Windows Memory/Resources
    Total Memory 523264 Kb
    Available Memory 354756 Kb
    Page File Size 1321852 Kb
    Available Page File 1094888 Kb
    Virtual Memory 2097024 Kb
    Available Virtual Memory 1948864 Kb


    Also does this mean my PC's not set up to process as fast as it can:

    Processors

    Central Processor
    Manufacturer Intel
    External Clock Speed 533 MHz
    Maximum Clock Speed 3060 MHz
    Current Clock Speed 2800 MHz
     
  12. Void959

    Void959 Fledgling Freddie

    No way will the RAM work together, 4 dimms is generally a bad idea anyway, if you can afford a bit more, go with 2*512, otherwise leave it as is. Make sure you choose branded ram, Corsair value is fairly cheap but still good performance and most importantly very reliable.

    Good choice with the graphcs card, 6600GT is the best card to get in the mid range, and also the best value IMO.

    I would go with AMD myself though, haven't checked prices recently, but a low range athlon 64, say 2800+ should fit in the budget, almost any MSI or ASUS mobo will be good if you dont want to do too much research.

    As for the store, there are really only two kinds, expensive and good service or cheap but poor service. The cheap ones are often much cheaper (10-30%) and whilst it's unlikely that there will be any problems, if there are, and you've gone with a cheap option, you'll probably end up regretting it. Overclockers.co.uk falls into the cheap in my opinion, that's not to say don't go with them, just be prepared to put in a lot of time and deal with a lot of very stupid people if there does happen to be any problems.
     
  13. Ctuchik

    Ctuchik Resident Freddy


    no its not. but then again, NO standard CPU's are. they set the default speed a fair bit under its actual max capacity for safty reasons. they dont wanna be sued for selling stuff that goes boom coz the CPU couldent really handle the speed to well. thats why u can acually overclock the CPU's.. (at your own risk)

    atleast thats what ppl have told me.
     

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