fyi finster was a power gamer and possibily the worst leader ever giving the mids 4 hours to get to power relic keep then yelling nothing can defeate this albion army advance tens paces isnt exactly what id call the attributes of a good player
then jumped the ship when he got nerfed to the next fotm class sb wow where have i heard that before oh and just fyi alb excal has more higher rr players and both top alb/exc guild have more rps than both alb/pryd guilds
Originally posted by Ialkarn
Finally someone got the point..
No matter really who land the first mezz..cause the mid group it's able to easy cross it.
That it's the biggest difference btw a mid and an alb group..
the perfect alb group (according whit NP)got 1 sorc 1 mincer (2 demezers,1 hardly alive when the battle start) 2 clerics (note:they can't demezz)
1 slambot (hibrid whit gimped ws and no tank ras) and 3 pure tanks(they want thrust mercs,let's give them thrust mercs)
the perfect mid group got 3 healers(all capable to land atleast an insta mezz..all whit 2 insta heals and capable to do spread heals) + 1 augmentation/mending shammy
4 seers..3 demezers...
1 skald 1 warrior 2savages.
Let's describe a typical mid-alb encounter.
Where two strong guilds whit high rr meet..and they are so lucky to have all ras up.
Lets say the Alb group mezz the mids,using their overpowered bolt range mezz
Then the alb group assisting perfectly insta killing one of their seers (lets say their shammy,lets say he get slammed and he is not enought fast to purge+ip,or he do it but die aniway)
meanwhile one of the healers purge ( I pretend they always gonna have one seer whit purge up since they got 3) and demezz the rest.
then one use Perfect Recovery and the shammy it's alive again..whit no ressick..full healt and full power.
Meanwhile the savages of the group aren't mezzed animore and they can charge the poor sorc..one of the clerics hit bof and for 30 secs the incredible damage output of 2 savages isn't enought to kill a sorc whit a 50% melee absorbation bonus (but still enought to focus all clerics on him and waste all their mana).
The mercs obviously are brillant and fast players..and they are able to hit the augmentation healer before he can land his mezz..
shame on them..they get insta mezzed for 2-5 secs(cause they are such hight rr and got loads of ras)..enought to make the healer get away ..prolly they ll be able to catch him again (in a couple years..since disease make ppl run slower),but have no phear..SOS
30 seconds going fast..and the second cleric have to bof too.
Those mercs..using their not stopable speed are able to intercept the augmentation healer of the enemy group....the pali ,forced to leave the already dead (1-2-3 times?) sorcerer, intercept the warrior slamming him,before he can slam all the mercs.
Now the poor healer have only his istants(and toons of heals coming from several seers) to keep him alive (he could moc and mezz them all when sos go down,but he get slammed doing that,and he wasted his purge already)
Our brave mercs (whitout haste and damage add,coz the perfect alb group according whit NP can't affort a theurg) kill the healer fast.
As soon the healer die he get up again..via Perfect Recovery.
The albs tanks are on a seer again (insert random seer) ..a seer guarded by a 50 shield specced tank whit more ws than them..virtually unmezable and already slammed.
The clerics of the alb group are attacked by savages whit chances to double-triple or quadri hit, damage add and capped swing..and guarded by an hibrid tank whit low ws,no full shield spec, and virtually mezable.
As soon the second bof is down both clerics die orribly.
the battle end whit all albs face down and like 1 mid dead..whit prolly 1 perfect recovery left.
My point is:no matter how good you ll do..no matter how many defensive tricks an alb group got (bof,sob,ap,even sos).
Their damage output 'll be not enought to penetrate the mid defenses..even if they do, perfect recovery gonna supply a mistake in their defensive skills.
No matter if they landed the first mezz ,if they got 1 min of partially melee immunity,Albs can't drop a mid group in this minute,prolly they couldn't even whit a 3 bof.
Why that? Mids got more damage output (double haste double damage add,better tank classes) a more solid cc(the best 27% absorbation armour of the game, 2 insta heals,insta mezz/stun,hibrid healt) and an aloot more strong heal department (put 3 clerics in an alb group,and you have to play whit no cc or 2 tanks).
-I could add disease,and a better slam bot.
IF you really think that dosen't count..if you really think the superiority of Midgard in front of Albion it's a question of skills,
You are a liar,or worse you think ppl hearing you are just a bunch of blind idiots.
Originally posted by Ialkarn
meanwhile one of the healers purge ( I pretend they always gonna have one seer whit purge up since they got 3) and demezz the rest.
You have two clerics in the back, they could interupt the purging healers demezzes with baselines smite, or you could let your minstrel whack away on that cleric.
then one use Perfect Recovery and the shammy it's alive again..whit no ressick..full healt and full power.
Not to mention unbuffed and probably slightly disoriented. Should die again just as fast as the first time.
Meanwhile the savages of the group aren't mezzed animore and they can charge the poor sorc..one of the clerics hit bof and for 30 secs the incredible damage output of 2 savages isn't enought to kill a sorc whit a 50% melee absorbation bonus (but still enought to focus all clerics on him and waste all their mana).
Try a root on the savages.
The mercs obviously are brillant and fast players..and they are able to hit the augmentation healer before he can land his mezz..
What mezz? Baseline single-target?
shame on them..they get insta mezzed for 2-5 secs(cause they are such hight rr and got loads of ras)..enought to make the healer get away
Insta mezzed by whom? Not the aug healer - he doesn't have any insta CC. ( assuming he's not aug/pac, a combo that is very uncommon )
..prolly they ll be able to catch him again (in a couple years..since disease make ppl run slower),but have no phear..SOS
30 seconds going fast..and the second cleric have to bof too.
Those mercs..using their not stopable speed are able to intercept the augmentation healer of the enemy group....the pali ,forced to leave the already dead (1-2-3 times?) sorcerer, intercept the warrior slamming him,before he can slam all the mercs.
Now the poor healer have only his istants(and toons of heals coming from several seers) to keep him alive (he could moc and mezz them all when sos go down,but he get slammed doing that,and he wasted his purge already)
Several seers right? With the shaman dead, the healer ( assuming mend-healer, doesn't really matter ) that PR'd the shaman dead, the aug healer dead - that leaves the pac healer alive - and while beat upon he only have his own instas to count on.
Our brave mercs (whitout haste and damage add,coz the perfect alb group according whit NP can't affort a theurg) kill the healer fast.
And the paladin can't twist, right?
As soon the healer die he get up again..via Perfect Recovery.
Nope he doesn't, no other healers alive to PR him.
The albs tanks are on a seer again (insert random seer) ..a seer guarded by a 50 shield specced tank whit more ws than them..virtually unmezable and already slammed.
This a seer outside the group, or?
The clerics of the alb group are attacked by savages whit chances to double-triple or quadri hit, damage add and capped swing..and guarded by an hibrid tank whit low ws,no full shield spec, and virtually mezable.
Mezable by the dead healers then I assume?
As soon the second bof is down both clerics die orribly.
the battle end whit all albs face down and like 1 mid dead..whit prolly 1 perfect recovery left.
My point is:no matter how good you ll do..no matter how many defensive tricks an alb group got (bof,sob,ap,even sos).
Their damage output 'll be not enought to penetrate the mid defenses..even if they do, perfect recovery gonna supply a mistake in their defensive skills.
How about slamming/stunning the healer you attack as an opening? They can't PR while stunned.
No matter if they landed the first mezz ,if they got 1 min of partially melee immunity,Albs can't drop a mid group in this minute,prolly they couldn't even whit a 3 bof.
Albs can, you can't.
Why that?
I dunno, you tell me
Some ramble ( yes, healers are good )
IF you really think that dosen't count..if you really think the superiority of Midgard in front of Albion it's a question of skills,
You are a liar,or worse you think ppl hearing you are just a bunch of blind idiots.
You obviously must be doing something wrong then? I've seen for instance Zoyster/Outlaw 1fg ( yes 1fg - no zerg whines here atm ) clear out a fg of mids in a matter of seconds, followed by another and another.