Impressed £67.5 billion... nope... 263 billion, and rising.

[Scouse]

It isn't costing us, it is costing EDF and the strike price was already set.

BTW - I'd bet your house you're wrong.

EDF will threaten to walk and we'll foot it.

 

[Embattle]

No what will happen is the government will have to stump up more money for the next reactors.

I also don't need your house as I don't need a abattoir with an attached lake

 

[Scouse]

I said your house 😉

 

[Raven]

Or, we just say, no, fuck off. All contracts signed under a Tory government should be scrapped. If they don't like it, then they can invade.

 

[Embattle]

EDF takes €12.9bn hit after Hinkley Point C delays and cost overruns

French energy firm swung to profit in 2023 despite impairment charge on struggling nuclear project in UK

www.theguardian.com

 

[Scouse]

EDF takes €12.9bn hit after Hinkley Point C delays and cost overruns

French energy firm swung to profit in 2023 despite impairment charge on struggling nuclear project in UK

www.theguardian.com

The French finance minister, Bruno Le Maire, said this week it would be “fair” for Britain to share the burden of the extra costs.

It's coming, mark my words. And nearly 50bn for a single reactor.

And we're footing decomissioning and "dealing" with the waste.

AND:

While UK bill payers are insulated from the cost overruns at Hinkley, they will be exposed to equivalent risks at Sizewell, which has a different funding model

Fun times.

Meanwhile: Sellafield.

 

[Embattle]

It's coming, mark my words. And nearly 50bn for a single reactor.

And we're footing decomissioning and "dealing" with the waste.

AND:



Fun times.

Meanwhile: Sellafield.

As said previously, we won't be helping EDF on the current reactor.

 

[Scouse]

As said previously, we won't be helping EDF on the current reactor.

Whilst you're ignoring the lion's share of the cost (decomissioning and waste) - I said previously, we will. To requote the French finance minister:

The French finance minister, Bruno Le Maire, said this week it would be “fair” for Britain to share the burden of the extra costs.

Of course, politically, we'll likely pay somewhere else. Just for the optics of it. But we'll still pay. And we're paying them a fuckton already.

 

[Embattle]

Whilst you're ignoring the lion's share of the cost (decomissioning and waste) - I said previously, we will. To requote the French finance minister:



Of course, politically, we'll likely pay somewhere else. Just for the optics of it. But we'll still pay. And we're paying them a fuckton already.

We won't.

 

[Embattle]

UK’s green power industry receives surprise £10bn pledge

Potential investment by NatPower would create largest portfolio of battery storage projects in Britain

www.theguardian.com

 

[Raven]

Nice one, nationalists.

Scotland to ditch key climate change target

The Scottish government is to scrap its flagship target of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 75% by 2030.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Embattle]

A good read, kind of applies to many of our large infrastructure projects:

Why Britain is building the world’s most expensive nuclear plant

For over 20 years, Britain effectively gave up on building new nuclear power stations. But that’s changed now Hinkley Point C in Somerset is under construction. When completed it will provide around 7 per cent of the UK’s electricity. Hinkley Point C is set to be the most expensive nuclear power...

www.spectator.co.uk

 

[Scouse]

"In fact, it's probably too safe"...

...what a great argument that's being made there.

 

[Embattle]

Climate and health benefits of wind and solar dwarf all subsidies

By displacing fossil fuels, wind and solar saved the US $250 billion over 4 years.

arstechnica.com

 

[Embattle]

View: https://youtu.be/EVJkq4iu7bk?si=wF83HkMC2s0U9s8f

 

[Embattle]

Love big engineering:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGFaDE4cLC8

 

[Scouse]

Because it's cheaper, Trawsfynedd nuclear power station (Magnox) is applying for a variation to it's disposal licence as part of it's decomissioning works.

They want to fill in the spent waste ponds and then concrete cap them. This will mean leeching into the lakes and rivers - which will traverse down the rivers past Portmerion and Porthmadog and out to the Irish sea. They have to apply for a licence as A) the original disposal plan was to excavate and dispose (Sellafield) and infill with material taken from offsite and B) the radiation leekage will likely be excess of permitted levels. I say likely because they can't actually take readings at the moment, so it's guesswork.

Trawsfynedd is gorgeous. The town is a complete shithole. This is because the siting of a great big nuclear carbuncle on the edge of the lake has prevented the area from being developed for tourism. And it's so suited for tourism. It's in the National Park, situated right on a large lake, the Rhinog range is spectacular when you get on it (but they're the least travelled of all the Snowdonia mountain ranges because who wants to walk in full view of a nuclear power station?). It's the same with Caemaes Bay in Anglesey - one of the potentially most picturesque bays on the Island, but it's a tourist desert and the whole area is poverty-stricken as a result.

They openly saying it's a cost thing. (Less dangerous too - they don't have to transport the waste). But the long-term cost to the area is ridiculous. And it will set a precedent. If they can do this with Trawsfynedd then they can do it everywhere. So they'll pock-mark the United Kingdom with nuclear waste disposal facilities that leach into the ground.

Sellafield is already a leechate nightmare - so transporting and disposing of it there at least keeps it to one place.


Fuck this shit.

 

[Scouse]

(Of course, lots of people have disputed this study showing a fivefold cancer risk downwind of the station and a doubling of cancer risk for people who eat fish from the lake, but none of them have actually done counter-studies to disprove it - as required by, you know, science).

But still. We should do what we said we'd do when building our only inland station - decomission it and take the material away.

 

[Embattle]

View: https://youtu.be/hiAsmUjSmdI?si=10DKmhbD5KomAdR2

 

[Scouse]

Sellafield apologises after guilty plea over string of cybersecurity failings

Nuclear site awaits sentencing over breaches that it admitted could have threatened national security

www.theguardian.com

 

[Embattle]

Good but we need many more:

Electrical 'superhighway' between Scotland and England approved - BBC News

The multi-billion pound link will allow Scottish renewable energy to be sent to consumers south of the border.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Scouse]

Good but we need many more:

Electrical 'superhighway' between Scotland and England approved - BBC News

The multi-billion pound link will allow Scottish renewable energy to be sent to consumers south of the border.

www.bbc.co.uk

Shouldn't be going anywhere near Drax. That fucker needs shutting down.

My missus bid for this tho:

Morocco-UK Power Project - Xlinks

xlinks.co

Don't think they won it

 

[Embattle]

Shouldn't be going anywhere near Drax. That fucker needs shutting down.

I suspect it is due to there being spare transformer capacity as Drax used to create nearly 4000 MW in its coal era compared to the 2600 MW it does now in its biomass era.

 

[Scouse]

Sellafield cleanup cost rises to £136bn amid tensions with Treasury

National Audit Office questions value for money as predicted bill for decommissioning increases by £21bn

www.theguardian.com

 

[Embattle]

Air pollution from fossil fuels ‘kills 5 million people a year’

Of more than 8m deaths worldwide from outdoor air pollution, 61% linked to fossil fuels, finds study

www.theguardian.com

 

[Scouse]

An article from november last year? You trying to say something @Embattle ?

 

[Embattle]

An article from november last year? You trying to say something @Embattle ?

That another pointless post deserved a pointless reply

 

[Scouse]

That another pointless post deserved a pointless reply

Don't see why pointing out ridiculous expenditure is pointless.

The costs of sellafield are at the levels that it holds back infrastructure spending in the UK. The sort of increases that puts the tory black hole and the tax increases we're all going to stump up for in perspective. And this is financial millstone we're giving ourselves could have more meaningfully been spent in a better bang-for-buck way - including saving lives from fossil fuel.

 

[Embattle]

Don't see why pointing out ridiculous expenditure is pointless.

The costs of sellafield are at the levels that it holds back infrastructure spending in the UK. The sort of increases that puts the tory black hole and the tax increases we're all going to stump up for in perspective. And this is financial millstone we're giving ourselves could have more meaningfully been spent in a better bang-for-buck way - including saving lives from fossil fuel.

You've done it before and it was countered, you'll probably be able to do another post in a couple of years when the costs increase again. To me the thing that should have been done in the past and still needs to be done is a proper repository like the Onkalo spent nuclear fuel repository in Finland.

 

[Scouse]

Onkalo spent nuclear fuel repository in Finland.

You mean the unproven, untested facility which many scientists say will be fucked and leaching within 100 years?

Mmmkay.